IN THE MIDST of a dual fixture clash for the Thurles Sarsfields camogie and ladies football teams, Tipperary Ladies Football have stated that they are “always open to putting in place a structure to avoid clashes.”
The statement from Tipperary LGFA Chairman Mr Lar Roche comes in response to one issued by Sarsfields, highlighting an “extremely unfair” clash which sees eight dual players line out in two games in four hours on Sunday.
The camogie side face Kilruane McDonaghs in the intermediate championship semi-final at 2pm, while the footballers are contesting their own intermediate final at 6pm.
The football decider was originally fixed for 3pm but according to the Thurles outfit, “the only accommodation the county board could make was to move the game to 6pm instead.”
They added: “Despite both county boards highlighting the plight of the dual players at inter-county level, most recently where Tipp dual star Orla O’Dwyer had to choose between camogie and football All-Ireland semi-finals, the situation has been deemed unavoidable and the fixture stands.”
While voicing their unhappiness, the club reluctantly accept the situation at hand and will fulfill both fixtures.
In a statement to The42, Mr Roche underlines that the ladies football county board are “restricted by time constraints enforced outside their control,” though they are “always open to dialogue to find workable solutions so that girls do not have to make a choice between different codes.”
He added: “‘We feel at times that Tipperary Ladies Football are always the ones expected to move.
“We have said it already this year there needs to be more co-operation from our sisters in camogie so our girls have an equal playing field when participating in amateur sports.”
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The Tipperary LGFA statement in full:
Tipperary Ladies Football have this week stated that they are ‘always open to putting in place a structure to avoid clashes between Camogie and Ladies Football Fixtures.’
Chairman of Tipperary Ladies Football County Board, Mr. Lar Roche was responding to statement issued by Thurles Sarsfields Club concerning a clash of fixtures between the two codes on Sunday next September 29th. In the statement issued this week Mr. Roche said, ‘Tipperary Ladies Football are open to putting in a place a structure to avoid clashes between Camogie and Ladies Football.’ He added that he would like to point out that Tipperary Ladies Football did endeavour to seek a more workable alternative, in the early part of last week, as they recognised there was a strong possibility of clash. However he said Tipperary Ladies Football County Board were restricted by time constraints enforced outside their control but did move their fixture from 3pm to 6pm on Sunday.
Continuing Mr. Roche said that Tipperary Ladies Football are always open to dialogue to find workable solutions so that girls do not have to make a choice between different codes. However he added, ‘We feel at times that Tipperary Ladies Football are always the ones expected to move. We have said it already this year there needs to be more co-operation from our sisters in Camogie so our girls have an equal playing field when participating in amateur sports.’
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Didnt relaize he wss crippled, did they stop in lourdes on the way home , ffs 12 years later and still going on about it
@ger gavin: The Kiwi’s make a much bigger deal out of it than even the Irish do. It’s because they know they were in the wrong, but because they won’t apologise for it they just keep denying any wrongdoing.
@Dave Barry: the kiwis make a big deal out of it as it’s their national sport. They admit openly it was a bad tackle but to say it was intentional is hard to believe. As an ex rugby player, it’s very difficult to tackle someone nevermind intentionally hurt them.
Just another All Black ‘accident’. All respect done for these thugs who seem to not be able to win big games anymore without these ‘accidents’ After the Irish game where the last 3 ‘accidents’ happened, World Rugby came and strengthened the rules. Why? If they were just accidents.
@Range Rover: My reading of it at the time is the same as it is now. They went out to target O’Driscoll, not to injure him, but to “lay down a marker.” I know any kiwi will deny it, but he was the captain, it was two minutes in and he was barely involved in the ruck. We weren’t born yesterday. The thing that left a bad taste in my mouth wasn’t what happened on the pitch, it was the lack of response from the authorities. Accidental or deliberate, a spear tackle is illegal. The IRB were, as always, deaf, dumb and blind where their golden boys are concerned however.
Let’s stop calling these guys the all blacks. They are new Zealand. Calling them the all blacks puts them up on a pedestal. The Australians never defer to them like that. I’m no lover of the lions but Nz need to be beaten. When they put on that Jersey the kiwis think they are above the law. They spear tackle o Driscoll and it galvanised them! Piss off
@Paul K Murphy: not sure about that, whatever the scenario calling them New Zealand is a step down from the All Blacks. Which tells it own story about the deliberate mystique perpetuated over the ages about this team with supposed superhuman qualities.
Anything that eats into that illusion is a good thing for me. They get enough psychological advantage from the haka, what we call them then is our own choice and the more down to earth the better
@Paul K Murphy: the problem is that rugby at test level to use the old cliche is a game of incredibly fine margins. So any advantage no matter how small is worthy of serious consideration. Enough for Australia and the lions in 2005 to decide against calling them the All Blacks anyway.
How effective those bans were is debatable. The lions obviously got blown away but you would have to say Australia excelled against them in the 2015 WC final. And who knows in that moment in time in the build up to the final maybe that was of some psychological help for them
@Aaron Buckley: they’re a bunch off shameless cheats….let’s just turn them over first
It was wrong. But I think people should stop whinging about it now. If someone brought up a similar incident from the Heineken Cup from 12 years ago they would be told to stop being a little b*tch and move on.
@Ned Flanders:
It’s not the tackle or the players which concerns fans, it was the cover up afterwards.
This was never addressed and continues today. The all blacks in Dublin last should have got two red cards (tackles on Zebo and CJ) and a red/yellow for Henshaw.
An all black has not got a red card since 1967.
It is not just Ireland every team gets this, SA and Aus complain continually about this
@Jack Dermody: and the crucial point with the BOD tackle is no one was even cited for it afterwards. Two big men picking another man up without the ball and piledriving his neck and head into the ground from a height is the most dangerous thing you can do possibly in any sport. It was only BOD twisting himself to take most of the impact to his shoulder that saved him.
Shockingly illegally took out the lions skipper and the two boys played on the series not a bother
@Jack Dermody:
there is no doubt they are reffed differently. The refereeing of 2011 WC final was for me the biggest scandal in rugby.
@Jack Dermody: I think the simple act of NZ captain, Umaga, and Mealamu, going over to BOD while he was being stretchered off to say a straightforward “sorry, mate” might have partly defused the negative reaction afterwards. They didn’t have either the respect or the balls to do so, which immediately deleted my regard for them as persons, notwithstanding their status as players.
The only way to deal with that tackle was to wallop the bejasus out of mealemu and umaga on the pitch. They should never have walked off it. In this that lions team failed miserably. Similarly with nz in Dublin last November. If ref isnt going to take action then act yourself and fight fire with a firestorm. Lions & Ireland were too effin nice.
You got to love the All Blacks. Even after all this time there is no regret or even an admission of partial responsibility. The end justifies the means. This is why they are perennial winners and we only ever surpassed them once.
It was malicious, vindictive and almost criminal. Try to picture two men doing that to someone on the streets. It’s about the most dangerous thing you could do to someone and the fact that two were involved, not one, defeats any argument that it wasn’t deliberate. The All Blacks also wreaked havoc in Lansdowne Road and that was the last time I left a comment on the Journal. What disappoints me the most is that the management and players didn’t see it coming and didn’t know how to answer them. They’re a proud nation, the New Zealanders, but we’ve got to wise up to their pre-planned strategy of winning at all costs. I agree that the last two major tackle changes in World Rugby have come about because of New Zealand thuggery. The next time we play them, and the Lions, let’s not be naive and match them for physicality. Bob Dwyer still maintains that Duncan McCrae did nothing wrong in 2001. It’s not as if we can’t see it coming anymore. Oh, and an apology is what’s required from the All Blacks, not trying to justify the unjustifiable to this day. If they had done so, we wouldn’t still be talking about it. I won’t hold my breath.
Their tough, physical guys….other players will have to be tougher and tackle twice as hard….all them south Africans are massive men but they have to be willing to break their gut!!