WHEN THE POLICE came through the doors that is when the players in the away dressing room at Old Trafford knew things were serious.
This would be no ordinary fallout to a Manchester derby.
It was April 2001 and City, mired in a relegation dog fight, had snatched a late draw at the home of United, the champions-elect, courtesy of Steve Howey’s 84th minute goal.
It had cancelled out Teddy Sheringham’s effort with a little over quarter of an hour remaining.
But nobody was talking about that.
The result was of little consequence, not just because United would still romp home to their third successive Premier League title or that City would be unable to avoid the drop, but because of what happened between Roy Keane and Alfe-Inge Haaland near the far touchline at what is now called the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand.
It’s on the opposite side to the dugouts at Old Trafford and that is where City’s substitute goalkeeper Nicky Weaver, who had been dislodged as No.1 earlier in the campaign, watched from the bench.
“We knew that there was a good bit of needle between Keane and Alfie from when Alfie was at Leeds,” Weaver, now Sheffield Wednesday’s goalkeeping coach, recalls.
“I was quite away from it and didn’t know how bad it really was until we were in the dressing toom afterwards and watched it back on the video.
“It was like ‘wow, that is a horror tackle, absolutely shocking’. Some of the lads who were closer to it at the time could see straight away, they realised but the rest of us didn’t. It was shocking when we saw it.”
That was the prevailing sense around Old Trafford and United seemed to realise the gravity of the situation quickly. As Haaland received treatment from City’s medical staff, things took a turn when the doors flung open.
Police came into the dressing room, I’m sure they wanted Alfie to sign something so he wouldn’t press charges against Keane. There was some sort of legal person there as well, some sort of director from United, I think.
“They wanted him to sign it but Alfie wouldn’t sign it and it was just as well because it all came out in Keane’s book that he did it on purpose.”
That reignited the situation the following year, with Keane brought before an English FA displinary hearing in which he was banned for five games and fined £150,000. The revelations that the tackle was premeditated also led to City announcing that they would seek damages from the United captain for up to £5 million.
Haaland, too, considered a lawsuit when he was forced to retire from the game prematurely due to a problem with his other knee.
City and Haaland later dropped their plans to sue and yet, 19 years on and with a Manchester derby taking place in much different circumstances later today, the whole episode remains an integral part of the fixture’s history.
Weaver played his own part during his 10 years at the club, although the period 1997-2007 was when City flittered between the old First Division and the Premier League before eventually establishing themselves as a middling top flight club.
That has all changed in the decade since, however, with City overtaking United following the takeover by Sheikh Mansour and his Abu Dhabi United Group.
Weaver reels off some of the names that were long left behind in the name of progress.
Richard Dunne… Dunney, what a humble guy, he got better every single year and is one of the best lads. He didn’t speak much but when he did you would listen, and there weren’t many who could keep up with him on a night out,” Weaver laughs.
“Mark Kennedy was another one, a wand of left foot and all the talent in the world. We had some crazy nights out but he showed his class on the pitch.”
Willo Flood was another who broke into the City first team during the mid to late 2000s under Kevin Keegan, while Glenn Whelan and Paddy McCarthy didn’t quite manage to force their way in.
“All great lads, though, with the right attitude and they went on to have careers in the game, really, really good careers so there is nothing but respect there for them.”
And that brings us to Stephen Ireland.
Weaver sighs.
“What a player, he had everything. He was probably the most gifted and talented young player I saw during my time at City. Shaun Wright Phillips was the big young star and he was English so he was seen as the superstar in the making.
But Stephen had it all. Left foot, right foot, he would drift by people effortlessly, the way he would twist and turn, he was playing regularly in centre midfield in the Premier League at 18, 19 years of age so that just shows how good he was.
“He still went on and did good things at City, he played in some good teams but when they started really competing at the very top level and winning things, Stephen wasn’t there.
“He went to Aston Villa, to Newcastle, he still had a really good career but he was moving around and couldn’t settle.
“With the talent he had, in my opinion, he perhaps should have done a little bit better because the biggest young talent of all at City was Stephen Ireland, I thought he was going to go right to the top of the game.”
Injuries, a lack of form and changes in management all played their part in Ireland’s downfall and, as he revealed recently, there was plenty of personal issues off the pitch that he was dealing with, having become a father to two young children before he was out of his teens.
His international career, of course, was over almost as soon as it began because of the ‘Grannygate’ debacle, and Ireland’s club form dipped pretty quickly, too.
“Sometimes those outside influences, the injuries and what have you, issues away from the field, they catch up. Stephen was the one I thought could have got a move to one of the big, big clubs.
“He just lost his way. You need a lot more than talent sometimes and it never quite happened for Stephen.”
Cmon the cats!!! The cream always rises
Great great win fair play to management made the changes when required.
TJ just fantastic.
As a KK man I didn’t see that happening. That soft 21m goal put a shine on the score. The young lads in KK a really after cutting their teeth in the league. It’s a joy to watch these 2 teams playing each other. Pure hurling.
@Jason Pierce: No bullshit and players thinking they are prima donnas deserving this that and the other under Cody.
Hurling skills exceptionally well imparted and your name or club mean nothing it’s all about the end goal All Ireland medals In Kilkenny. No sulking no county boards run by old dinosaurs and county secretary’s picking teams.
In short hats off to Cody and his players magnificent ambassadors for a simple game – players die with their boots on in other counties they want you to tie their laces
Tipp didn’t play at all in second half.
Rumours of Kilkenny’s demise greatly exaggerated
Still need a full back Padraig Walsh playing full back like a wing back, caught bad the last two games for two goals.
Unfair on him as he’s a class wing back.
Looking forward to a good battle here. I think Tipp will shade it with stronger panel but it is at Nowlan Park .
@Finnster: :)
C’mon Tipp!!!
That’s the young lads bedded in nicely, Cody rebuilding what could be a very good team
Plenty comments bout Kilkenny being a 1 man team relying on TJ but wot bout tipp Jason Forde got 2-12 & not a word bout it…..
@Ray Power: Ssssssh Ray sure if some folk can’t see a past that their better off, we all know Tipp would be fine without J Forde same as Cork without P Horgan Galway without Joe Waterford without P o Mahoney I could go on but yah know yourself lad tis all KKs fault.
@Dae Monicus: dats a fact
@Ray Power: An sure here’s another one lad KK are a one manager team! 20 national titles in twenty years with many different groups of players, like him or not that speaks for itself.
The Tipp bench should have a big say in the result.Tipp Abu
Great camogie coverage there. Don’t miss a beat.
Kilkenny relying on frees again, but in fairness to them they win an incredible amount if them and have done all league.
@James Doyle: really ? That all you got ?
Not a great game, KK would be lost without TJ Reid he is the glue keeping it together throughout the league . Also some playacting from both sides to get frees.
@Finnster: ya there fair reliant on tj both sides missing a few but without Reid kilkenny pretty average
@Back pass: Jason forde scored 2 12 of Tipp’s tally, would u not think that there screwed without him!???
@Back pass: Yeah, an average young team, beating a seasoned tipp team. Pretty average league champions.
@Finnster: lost all right…another piece of silverware though…Tipp were beaten all over in the second half. Crying the cats won again ?
@Finnster: and without Jason Forde Tipp brutal not up for the fight for a National title. Forde 2.12 only man that stood up. Tipp full back line big problem area. Fix quick or dry year again.
@Aidan Maher: in all fairness Finnster talks through his are. 18 from Forde and Kilkenny are a one man team.
What are tipp at? Ryan has lost the plot. We barely beat Limerick with the same tactic of high balls into the t-rex forward line. If they were in Africa at the height of the Ebola outbreak they still wouldn’t have caught any thing. Well done TJ Reid and your 14 apostles.
Hope Tipp stuff kk
Now it’s getting lively . Why can’t Tipp put Kilkenny to the sword ? On paper Tipp are by far a better team
@Finnster: there was never a game won on paper
@Finnster: because they are heartless.they are not called one in a row for nothing.
@Finnster: its called balls
I’ll take that Good game, fair play to Tipp tis early days but their a serious outfit who will I reckon be one side in the final later in the year, some good performances from KK time to crack open the suds.
Well done Kilkenny but the long grass awaits
Neither team imposing themselves,but still think Tipp will prevail
@Michael Sage: completely wrong there my friend no full back line and big questions now heading into the summer
Come on Tipp