Reproduced with permission from Whiff of Cordite.
SATURDAY WAS A very unsatisfactory day for the Rugby World Cup.
A useless French team got through to a final they scarcely deserve, and a far superior Welsh team went out.
Much has been written about the sending off of their superb captain, Sam Warburton for a spear tackle in the 17th minute. And much of it has been worthy of Kevin the Teenager: โItโs soooo unfaaaaaaaaaaaaair!!!!โ.
Stepehen Jones said there was no malice in the tackle, and Warburtonโs dropping of Clerc was an act of pulling out of the tackle. Barnesy (in a shameful piece of journalism, it must be said) accused Rolland of an โarrogant misuse of powerโ, described him as half-French and pointed to conspiracy theories to secure the All Blacks the Cup.
Shaun Edwards called for a change to the rules, where a player can be placed on report, as in League (indeed, Edwards said the tackle was fine for a Leaguer), and intimated that Warburton shouldnโt have been sent off becaue heโs a jolly good fellow.
The fact is that Warburtonโs tackle satisfied the IRB definition of a spear/tip tackle, and referees have been instructed to penalise a spear tackle with a red card. The arguments against the sending off just donโt hold water:
- There was no malice in the tackle and Warburton didnโt drive Clerc into the ground - irrelevant. The IRB rule cites driving or dropping the player as a spear tackle.
- Warburton is not a dirty player - irrelevant again. This invites double standards; that dirty Argentinians and Samoans are to be reffed one way and upstanding Anglo-Saxon heroes another. Disciplinary records are for judging panels to deal with, not referees.
- The sending off ruined a semi-final โ true, but not the refereeโs fault. The law is there to protect player safety, which has to be more important than entertainment for those on the couch. It seems some have lost sight of why the ruling and sanction are recommended in the first place. The reason the tackle is outlawed is because it is so dangerous. It was Warburton, not Rolland who ruined the match, harsh though that may sound.
- A yellow and citing would have been fair โ citings only occur for incidents which merit a red card. So if you believe a citing would be fair, then you have to accept a red card is deserved.
- Rolland should have consulted a touch judge โ this is effectively asking for him to bottle the decision. He had a crystal clear view of the incident and acted decisively and correctly. Ironically, some of the same people castigated the touch judge in the Second Lions Test in 2009 for saying that Burgerโs ocular exploration of Luke Fitzgerald was worthy of โat least a yellow cardโ instead of red.
- Other spear tackles in the tournament have been met with a yellow card- true, but those are the erroneous decisions, not this one. Take issue with the referees in those games if you want.
- Rolland is half-French - a cheap shot from the likes of Stuart Barnes, who should know better. Plus heโs 0% French, heโs Irish โ his father is French.
- Vincent Clerc was unhurt โ true, but not the point โ do we really want to grade an offence based on the severity of the injury caused?
Some commentators have even gone so far as to say the red card should be removed altogether with punishments doled out after matches rather than during. This is nonsense โ the team sinned against has to benefit from the opposing sideโs misdeeds. You really do get the imression the out-cry is because a โgood guyโ got sent off, and if it was a dirty Frenchman who had committed the offence, the volume of shrieking would be a lot lower.
And for those insisting that the sending off cost Wales the game: if the Welsh side could kick properly they would have won comfortably, sending off or otherwise. Also note that post red card, Rolland gave zero scrum penalties to France despite Jean-Baptiste Poux repeatedly tearing Paul James a new one.
And we havenโt even talked about the worst refereeing decision in the game โ the penalty that Leigh Halfpenny narrowly missed โ this call may have cost Rolland the final, but the red card certainly didnโt, since it was utterly correct.
Scousers donโt care about this game. More interested in Utd losing to Spurs.
@Olllie B: No not really you donโt have to be from Liverpool to be scouser. Northern Europe sailors brought a stew recipe to ports in England but mostly Liverpool. The dish was called Lobscouse. Those people in Liverpool who ate it were called Scousers.
Huddersfield fans out in force I seeโฆ who knew?
Come on Huddersfield
Well its Huddersfield for meโฆ
If Klopp loses thisโฆheโll have to walk alone !!
@dannyboy: never!!
@Joe Kennedy: tbf Klopp is a joke at this stage.
But but but No Coutinho??? Ahhhh sure the January transfer window is nearly upon us so his back is probably playing up again
@powerfix: numbskull
If that defence is correct, I give up.
Im not even sure Lovren shagging Klopps missus would put him out of the team, Might be his downfall.
So Lovernโs punishment for being absolutely useless last week and costing his team 2 goals is to be rewarded with another start? The mind boggles
@Brian OโLoughlin: its common knowledge amongst real pool fans that lovernโs Mrs ran off another guy. So idiots here should really give him a break.
$hit happens to everyone from every walk of life. If things happen in your personal life that effect your performance or prevent you from doing your job properly you shouldnโt be there. Would you want a depressed pilot flying your plane? How is putting him in the firing line supposed to help him anyway? If anything it will make him worse
@Mr Nimziki: oh lord. You drop him till his heads right ffs.
@Nial D: so kick a man when heโs down is the answer
Klopp took off Lovren after 30 mins last week but now heโs starting again wttttfff
Sacked by your best manโฆ,youโre getting sacked by your best man โฆ sacked by your besssst mannnnnnnn ..youโre getting sacked by your besssst mannnnnnnnnโฆ.
@powerfix: nitwit
@powerfix: Jeez. My 12yr old has more imagination, and heโs far less childish than that. Iโd say your parents are very proud.
If we donโt win kiss top 4 goodbye YNWA
@Ollie Watson: that ship sailed ages ago dude. Ye will be lucky to nick Thursday night ball next season.
Well wagner said he best friends with klippty that goal proved it
Is Coutinho dropped?
@Nollaig Elliot: โinjuredโ
Time to get a run going after some recent blips
Glad for Sturidge to score his first goal in two months great player