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4 talking points ahead of the FA Cup fourth round ties

After Man United’s win last night, we take a look at the other big games down for decision.

1. David v Goliath in Essex

WITH THE WORST defensive record in all four divisions of English football, Colchester will be expected by most to bow out of the FA Cup at lunchtime on Saturday.

Having conceded 65 goals in 28 games, the Us sit rock bottom of League One and face formidable Premier League opposition in Tottenham.

In fact, their only win of 2016 was in this competition as they defeated Championship side Charlton 2-1 to reach the fourth round for the first time in 10 years.

Manager Kevin Keen could call upon the experience of Darren Ambrose (scorer of this goal against Manchester United), Nicky Shorey and George Elokobi as he looks to mastermind an upset.

Meanwhile, 1991 winners Spurs, riding high in the top flight with realistic ambitions of challenging for the title, make the trip to the Weston Homes Community Stadium without the injured Jan Vertonghen while Harry Kane and Dele Alli may be rested.

2. The other South Coast derby

Back in 2008, Portsmouth did the unthinkable by lifting the FA Cup under Harry Redknapp thanks to the financial backing of Alexandre Gaydamak.

That season, Bournemouth were docked 10 points after entering administration and suffered relegated to League Two.

Fast forward eight years and the fortunes of both clubs are unrecognisable.

Pompey, now managed by former Sligo Rovers boss Paul Cook, are hoping to earn promotion out of England’s fourth tier while the Cherries have already beaten Chelsea and Man United on their maiden Premier League voyage.

Fratton Park is sold out for this South Coast derby and it should be a cracker.

3. Third time lucky for the Reds?

After securing their first cup final appearance under Jurgen Klopp in midweek, Liverpool will look to book a spot in the last 16 of the FA Cup when West Ham visit Anfield on Saturday evening.

Just two points separates the teams in the table but the Hammers have already got the better of the Reds on two occasions this season — winning 3-0 and 2-0 in league meetings to claim their first double in 52 years.

Andy Carroll netted against his former club earlier this month and if physical striker features he could cause Liverpool’s unconvincing backline some problems, but the ever-entertaining Dimitri Payet is West Ham’s biggest threat.

4. Can the Dons cause another upset?

Soccer - Capital One Cup - Second Round - Milton Keynes Dons v Manchester United - Stadium:mk The MK Dons players after last year's victory over Man United. PA Archive / Press Association Images PA Archive / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

MK Dons may be hovering just above the Championship drop zone but they have the chance to claim a major scalp when they meet Chelsea for the first time in their history on Sunday.

A year ago, Karl Robinson’s (then League One) side caused a huge shock by knocking Man United out of the Capital One Cup with a 4-0 win.

If they are to pull off something similar against the Blues, it will mean ending Guus Hiddink’s seven-game unbeaten run since replacing Jose Mourinho for the remainder of the season.

Full fourth round fixture list

Friday

Saturday (3pm unless stated)

  • Colchester v Tottenham, 12.45pm
  • Arsenal v Burnley
  • Aston Villa v Man City
  • Bolton v Leeds
  • Bury v Hull 
  • Crystal Palace v Stoke
  • Nottingham Forest v Watford 
  • Oxford United v Blackburn
  • Portsmouth v Bournemouth
  • Reading v Walsall
  • Shrewsbury v Sheffield Wednesday
  • West Brom v Peterborough
  • Liverpool v West Ham, 5.45pm

Sunday 

  • Carlisle v Everton, 1.30pm
  • MK Dons v Chelsea, 4pm

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    Mute GunsGerms
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:13 PM

    Why are they playing anthems for club football? I’d understand the fuss if he had been picked to play for England but it is a bit silly playing anthema for club games.

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    Mute Michael O'Reilly
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:57 PM

    In fairness, West Brom were playing a game on American soil so the hosts probably thought it was a nice touch to play their country’s anthem. If an Irish club were ever to do the same we’d be complimentary. And how would you feel if an English player playing for an Irish club (yet again) felt compelled to make a political statement? James McClean just can’t help himself. He might be delighted with all the pats on the back from his mates in the Bogside but he looks like a misguided fool to many. The funny thing is that he was born in 1989, the lad doesn’t have a clue about the troubles. He couldn’t suck it up just once and not look for attention which he knew well would come his way.

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    Mute Supernova
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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:02 PM

    It’s just Britain. They honestly play God save the Queen at every opportunity, I heard it being played on family fortunes ffs

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    Mute Peter Nagle
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:16 PM

    If they played the anthem in Premier League matches, it would help get Irish fans to support the League of Ireland!

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    Mute Sean Hayes
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:22 PM

    Ha ha! I doubt they’d bat an eyelid though!

    I remember meeting a pal of mine in Cork City in the late 90′s. He lived in a Blackpool an area where there would have been plenty of republican sympathy at the time. It was all Ireland semi final day and I tried to get him to come in to town with me to watch the game.

    No luck though, that monumental event, the Charity Shield was also on. My abiding memory was saying good luck to him as he joined the locals in the packed Quinlan’s Bar in Blackpool. The doors were open and the TV was on full blast and “God Save the Queen” blared out over the northside of Cork City. I don’t think anyone noticed, they certainly weren’t bothered.

    Meanwhile I struggled to find a bar showing the All Ireland semi final! Cork weren’t playing but still. This belief that the world revolves around Man U, Liverpool etc is ingrained in the irish DNA now. I’d say if the English Premier League insisted on a pause to play God Save the Queen every 5 minutes they couldn’t rid themselves of their “Irish” fans.

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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:27 PM

    Did u not have a TV at home?

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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:39 PM

    Chances are also Keane and Irwin were involved in that game if it was late 90s and considering Cork weren’t playing in GAA match that might be the reason why..

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    Mute Sean Hayes
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:49 PM

    It would make no difference if the were involved or not. The Irish connection is being exposed as an excuse now that it doesn’t exist any more at the top clubs.

    If Man U fielded 11 English men against another club with 11 Irish men, who would the Irish Man U fan shout for?? Man U all the way, the Irish factor barely registers.

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    Mute Irishoversea
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:52 PM

    You were in North Cork in the late 90s Roy Keane was captain of Man Utd that makes a big difference..

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    Mute Rob O'H
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:58 PM

    Irish players turn and face the flag in the Aviva during Amhrann na Bhfiann, are the opposition expected to as well? I’ve seen teams in Croke Park not face the tricolour, no outrage? Head down and eyes closed is a mark of respect, just not the traditional one. I’m not McClean’s biggest fan, but this is a ridiculous storm in a teacup.

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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:09 PM

    you don’t seem to get it Rob. the Americans played the National Anthem of the country where WBA are from. McLean plays for WBA. The examples you are quoting are when members of the opposition don’t respect the Anthem. a completely different thing altogether.

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    Mute Rob O'H
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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:29 PM

    My point is that they’re not disrespecting the anthem, it’s not their anthem so they politely acknowledge it rather than facing the flag and belting it out. McClean did the same thing.

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    Mute N O hUallaigh
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    Jul 21st 2015, 9:01 PM

    playing the anthem was very strange, the world is too full of yes men, I don’t agree with disagreement for the sake of it but clearly he feels strongly about it and nobody should be forced to respect any anthem if they don’t want to

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    Mute Paddy
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:08 PM

    I do see where he’s coming from but he could make it less obvious. Maybe face the flag but keep his head down.

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    Mute Irishoversea
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:13 PM

    He shouldn’t play for English club really I mean I agree with and Understand James’s reasons but it’s keep popping up at him.. Also if some English player was playing in Ireland and doing the same we wouldn’t want him here.. Finally what i would say is why are they having the national anthem played before friendly games especially since most EPL teams are made up of foreigners..

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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:49 PM

    I’m genuinely confused about this one – so can I ask all those who feel strongly that he was right to do something which he must have known some would find disrespectful – if that is how you feel about a nation, how can you live, earn, bring up kids etc there? It’s not like he wouldn’t have a significant need of other options.

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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:03 PM

    As an EU citizen he is free to work wherever he wishes in Europe and maintain his own national identity without the need to apply for or meet the conditions for UK citizenship. There is no reason why he should be expected to stand to attention to the UK national anthem while at work. Why force your anthem on someone who doesnt want to be a citizen of your country?

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    Mute Augustus hoop
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:42 PM

    Ok thanks – but he doesn’t have to become citizen. And I agree no
    One should have to listen to the anthem
    Of the country you work in every day. The question is though, as you say, he can choose to live anywhere, but why choose to live in a country you have no respect for?
    I understood (after his letter) his poppy views and don’t agree that people should have to wear any political symbol. . But Like I said I genuinely struggle with this one.

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    Jul 22nd 2015, 8:51 AM

    What are talking about? Just because you dont want to face a flag that doesnt represent you and stand to attention for an anthem that means nothing to you doesnt mean you dont respect that that country. Why should he have to be force fed the anthem if he isnt British.

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    Jul 22nd 2015, 9:17 AM

    I lived in England for a while and I didn’t and still don’t respect the anthem or the royal family, they are an anachronistic affront to modern meritocracy. plenty of my English friends think the same. they are an inbred pack of self preserving magpies, who got rid of their German name in WW 1 and did a bunk during world war 2. I wouldn’t have respected the apartheid era south African anthem either for example

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    Jul 22nd 2015, 9:29 AM

    Augustus I don’t fully understand your query either, so you think everyone who works in England should agree with the concept of royalty and sing out the royal anthem? if McLean wanted to make a decent living out of soccer he was actually very limited in where he could go. the continental leagues don’t value strong running wingers of McLean’s ilk. and Ireland doesn’t have sufficient full time football. besides England is a good country to do well in but that still doesn’t mean that a lot of atrocities weren’t perpetrated against McLean’s community in the name of the queen

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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:48 PM

    God save our James McClean/Long live our James McClean/God save McClean/Send us victorious/His tricks are glorious/Long to score goals for us/God save McClean.”

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    Mute Tiarnan Guinée
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    Jul 21st 2015, 7:03 PM

    The guy is under contract to play football not to turn and face a flag.

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    Mute Goldberg
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    Jul 21st 2015, 3:29 PM

    It’s probably done and dusted now -Pulis doesn’t take much guff from his players

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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:27 PM

    I wonder would he make a fool of us if we got England in a qualifier. Even the Poles stood for the German anthem at the world cup.

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    Jul 21st 2015, 4:30 PM

    If he had just stood there like the rest of his team-mates and not done anything out of the ordinary then absolutely no one would have noticed anything different. It wouldn’t be an issue. No one asked him to clap or cheer for it.

    I understand where he’s coming from given his background, etc, but plenty of Irish sportspeople from a nationalist background have had to stand for that anthem over the years. What makes him so special?

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    Mute Irishoversea
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    Jul 21st 2015, 4:35 PM

    Be interesting if he played in a FA cup final what would he do if William was shaking the players hands.. I can’t see him ever playing in one anyway will never be in a team good enough to get a chance..

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    Mute Augustus hoop
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:49 PM

    Also we do expect unionists to respect Amhrain na bhfiain when they play for Ireland at home in the rugby (and would be disgusted if they took steps to show they did not respect it).

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    Mute N O hUallaigh
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    Jul 22nd 2015, 10:09 AM

    I don’t expect unionists to do anything. sure didn’t we have to come up with a pc anthem for them anyway that is truly terrible. Ulster unionists routinely have stood away from the rest of the team and refused to acknowledge amhrain na bhfiain throughout the years

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    Jul 21st 2015, 7:08 PM

    Maybe he should think of plying his trade in another country get away from the bullshit that surrounds the poppy fascists and that craic and it may actually improve his game to play in one of Europe’s top league if a team wanted to sign him.

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    Mute Pepper Brooks
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    Jul 22nd 2015, 2:27 AM

    Eh he’s shite! Wouldn’t get a look in in any of Europe’s top leagues. Be realistic here!

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    Mute aidan gannon
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:30 PM

    Black guys in his team lived in English citys when they faced bombing from the ira don’t hear them bringing up the past? Is it only white people he has a problem with

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    Mute Jimmy
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:55 PM

    What you waffling on about there sonny?

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    Mute David Hickey
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    Jul 21st 2015, 2:56 PM

    What a bizarre conclusion to come to.

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    Mute McArdle Liam
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    Jul 21st 2015, 11:51 PM

    McClean has his views and beliefs. The footballing world are aware of these and should respect them. Fair play to a lad who stands for what he believes.

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    Mute Conor Glancy
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    Jul 21st 2015, 10:34 PM

    He’s is right to stand up for what he believes in. He was brought up in the height of the troubles in Derry and more than likely he has seen family members and friends killed by the British. He doesn’t have to face any flag if he doesn’t want to, be it irish, English or otherwise.

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    Mute Shane McDonnell
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    Jul 21st 2015, 5:18 PM

    no he doesn’t

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    Jul 22nd 2015, 11:33 AM

    James is a martyr to the cause. Why he needs to do this though is only for him to decide. What he has ended up doing though is entering a political arena when really he is only a footballer. Maybe he should change his profession to politics. Unfortunately this may put his career in serious jeopardy and this act of defiance will have absolutely no impact on anyone but himself. So why bother. I do see his logic with the wearing of the poppy and would support him on this one however standing or not for a national anthem doesn’t make sense. Maybe he could turn his back on the Bosnia anthem in support of szebrenica next time the Republic play them or turn his back on the German flag after their contribution to the Second World War. Where do you stop? My suggestion is look after yourself James. There are many out there very willing to exploit your every move.

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