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Contrasting fortunes yesterday for Thurles Sarsfields, Ballygunner and Cuala yesterday. INPHO

6 talking points after champions fall and titles are handed out in the weekend's club hurling action

Cuala, Kilcormac-Killoughey and Thurles Sarsfields were some of the big names to bow out yesterday.

1. Exit for the All-Ireland champions in Parnell Park

That losing feeling when the stakes are highest has become unfamiliar to the Cuala hurlers. Their comeback fell just short in the Dublin semi-final yesterday against Kilmacud Crokes, marking a first knockout defeat since November 2015 when they lost the Leinster final against Oulart-the-Ballagh and the first reversal in a Dublin knockout tie since Ballyboden overturned them by a point in the 2014 county semi-final.

It’s been a glorious run of late that has yielded a handsome treasure trove from their county, provincial and national hurling exploits. Their loss opens the door for Kilmacud or Ballyboden to make a statement in Dublin while simultaneously changing the dynamic further beyond as the Leinster and All-Ireland club scene will start to take shape in the coming weeks.

2. Changing of the guard in Tipperary

The theme of an era of rule ending also came to pass in Tipperary yesterday. With seven of the last nine county titles to their credit and bidding for five-in-a-row in 2018, these statistics offered persuasive evidence of how much of a scalp it was that Nenagh Éire Óg claimed in disposing of the kingpins Thurles Sarsfields. Unlike their quarter-final the previous week, a slow start this time put paid to the aspirations of the champions despite the stirring fightback they produced late on.

It sets up a novel showpiece, Nenagh aiming to end a 23-year drought and Clonoulty hoping to halt a 21-year barren spell. Between them the pair have lost seven county finals over the last two decades. There will be a momentous breakthrough for one of them on 21 October.

3. Ballygunner to shift aim to Munster

The expected outcome at the Fraher Field, Ballygunner’s grip on Waterford hurling showing no sign of wavering. Five-in-a-row is a feat they will cherish, the latest success arriving after a 12-point dismissal of an Abbeyside outfit chasing their maiden crown. That followed a 25-point victory in their semi-final crushing of Passage and means Ballygunner have smashed the hopes of five different clubs on county final day since 2014.

With their superiority in Waterford now confirmed, the trick is to translate that to the Munster stage. Ballygunner have only once won their provincial title – back in 2001 – and have been runner-up (8 times) in a final more than any other club. Having lost two of the last three deciders, the current crop will be gearing up for a title at getting over the line in Munster.

Ballygunner celebrate after the game with the trophy Ballygunner players celebrate after their county final success. Tommy Dickson / INPHO Tommy Dickson / INPHO / INPHO

4. Familiar look to Limerick’s final four

Limerick have installed a new ‘Super Six’ group stage hurling format this year for their senior hurling championship but have ended up with a final four that has a familiar look to it. Na Piarsaigh, Doon, Kilmallock and Patrickswell comprise the quartet after the latter pair won their quarter-final ties yesterday.

It’s the top four from Group 1 of the round-robin stage and the same teams that featured in last year’s semi-finals. Na Piarsaigh, Patrickswell and Kilmallock have won the eight titles between them, while Doon chase a first final showing since 2000 with four Limerick All-Ireland winners in their ranks and a plethora of recent underage titles. The repeat of last year’s decider as Na Piarsaigh take on Kilmallock is the standout of next Sunday’s semi-finals.

5. Clare’s novelty continues to shine through

Having produced ten champions in the last 14 seasons, the intensely competitive nature of the Clare senior hurling scene is striking. Ballyea and Cratloe confirmed their passage to this year’s final over the weekend, and while both are recent champions, they still represent a novel pairing.

Ballyea won their first ever title two years ago with Cratloe’s inaugural crown arriving in 2009 and they picked up another in 2014. It’s the first time the duo will have faced off against each other in a decider. With eight players involved who have had Clare senior hurling experience of late, there’ll be plenty talent on show.

6. Leinster finalists fall in Offaly

Cuala were not the only major force in Leinster club hurling circles to be toppled at the weekend. Kilcormac-Killoughey were provincial champions in 2013 while they contested deciders in 2015 and last December.

That’s a decent body of work to put together yet they couldn’t quite manage to get over the line in Offaly yesterday, edged aside on final day by Coolderry, the other club who have dominated in that county of late. Coolderry have now won four titles since 2010 and with a bunch of players still around from the 2012 All-Ireland club decider, they won’t lack experience as they embark on the Leinster circuit.

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    Mute Rob O'H
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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:52 AM

    A big decision to hand the reins over to a guy who’s never held a head coach role, only coached for a year, and the bulk of current players trained alongside him less than two years ago. Hopefully doesn’t backfire.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:03 PM

    This will all end in tears.

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    Mute Colin Webber
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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:16 PM

    Wish Leo all the best. Journalists and pundits go on about Leinster fans demanding entertaining rugby but I never heard one fan demand that. What Leinster fans did demand was a competent head coach with a clear gameplan and players able to perform basic skis well. This didn’t happen under MOC. It was clear the players were confused going onto the pitch and subsequently they made basic errors. Leo can’t be any worse than MOC. Nevertheless that’s a fair bit of bull#%t from Mick Dawson about Leo being the best candidate. Leinster were turned down by other candidates and Leo was the last man standing. Let’s hope he’s a Franz Beckenbauer and not a Steve Staunton.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:32 PM

    Have faith – he’s made of the right stuff.

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    Mute Richard Cynical
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    Aug 19th 2015, 2:48 PM

    will leo be used as the escape goat for all the best players heading to France., yes.

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:39 PM

    Mick Dawson claims all the stakeholders were considered, so basically he doesn’t consider the Leinster supporters as a stake holder in the clubs future.
    We have suffered for the last two seasons and deserved a coach with at least a spark or a buzz about him.
    Brian O’Driscoll always say he learned so much from joe about the game and that was coming from one of the worlds best players at the time. How many Leinster backs will come away from Leo’s reign and say the same.
    The common sense deal was a one year deal and extend it if the first year goes well.
    If this was a one year deal I’d have a real good feeling about this season.
    Saying all that I truly hope that Leo proves me wrong and that no matter what we can’t be as bad as last year.
    Added to that I’m delighted kurt is back full time.

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    Mute Shane O Leary
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:46 PM

    You expect Leinster Rugby to consult the fans when deciding a new head coach do you?
    It’d certainly be a novel approach from a pro sports team.

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:52 PM

    Will this decision prolong the like of boss reddan Darcy etc ( the old men and best mates brigade) and stunt even more the progress of youth? Or will Leo be clever enough to realise that he really had a free shot this season to really have a go and bring players through.

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:54 PM

    No I don’t but Dawson comes out with this bull that all the major stakeholders were consulted and their views taken on board.

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    Mute Gary
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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:10 PM

    Robson, does this mean you’re finished trolling the Munster articles and have moved onto the Leinster ones? Well, we welcome you with open arms……that are locked and loaded.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:43 PM

    Paul Sheehan’s tears

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    Mute Finn
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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:59 PM

    Escape goat…. Ha!

    Does anyone know of another professional sports team who has a coach and mascot with the same name?

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    Mute Shane O Leary
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    Aug 19th 2015, 5:28 PM

    They were, Leinster fans aren’t ‘major stakeholders’ in the decision process to choose a new head coach.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:58 AM

    I wish him well, but I also remember what ROG said about one of the reasons he went coaching in France was because he didn’t feel that as a coach that he would have had the necessary separation from the players who he had previously played with. It’s not going to be easy to move from being one of the lads to telling them what to do and he’ll be doing it in a much higher pressure environment than the average workplace.

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    Mute KevinMunster
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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:12 PM

    Best of luck to him, good to see Irish coaches get their opportunity

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:06 PM

    Really interested to see how Dempsey does with the backs, always seemed to have the Leinster A team playing entertaining rugby which he can hopefully bring back to Leinster.

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    Mute Patrick Heavey
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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:55 AM

    Best of luck Leo.
    Hopefully he’s given a fair shot without too much bull from fans and media.

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    Mute DF
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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:05 PM

    Could not have been handed a harder challenge in his first season in charge.Majority of the squad off to the world cup and a horrendous ERCC pool. Wish him well. Hopefully the media and some of the fan’s will have realistic expectations and give him some slack if results don’t go his way this year.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:26 PM

    Great to see Irish coaches in Irish jobs!

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    Mute Rugby Champions Cup
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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:01 PM

    win win, Leinster get a cheap head coach, Cullen gets an extra €50 a week on top of his dole

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:55 PM

    Where’s Joan Bruton to announce Jobsbridge latest roll.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:12 PM

    Matt O Connor knew how to defend but not much else. I fear that will continue under Leo’s reign but we’ll wait & see. It is what it is now anyway, so let’s be true supporters and get behind him the players. COYBIG

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:13 PM

    And you boys in blue too! Oops! (World cup on the brain…) :-D

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:42 PM

    Jimmy Matt didn’t know how to defend. If you looked at Leinster last year there were at least 10 games that we were winning going into the last quarter and we ended up either losing or drawing.
    It’s just not true that he knew how to defend.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:02 PM

    You never mentioned your disapproval with MOC once last season Chris why now?

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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:02 PM

    Ps.joke

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    Aug 19th 2015, 5:30 PM

    James I wanted to give moc an extension of another two years, purely to brighten up our country cousins but mick Dawson wanted to put a dampener on that.
    Moc the best coach we ever had

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    Mute Jimmy Murphy
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    Aug 19th 2015, 6:20 PM

    Matter of opinion I s’pose. When MOC took over, we lost our attacking prowess and never got it back. And we couldn’t build up a lead or hold one on the rare occasion we did. That’s why we couldn’t finish off games or losing it in the last quarter. Anyhoo, that’s in the past, onwards & upwards with Leo.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:00 PM

    A Leinster man through and through and will be a great head coach. Best of luck to him and his squad.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:13 PM

    Re rookie coaches: When Franz Beckenbauer was appointed coach of the German soccer team in 1984 he not not only didn’t have any coaching experience, he didn’t even have a coaching licence. So according to the rules, he should have never been given the job. Two years later under Beckenbauer Germany reach the WC semifinals; 1990 they win it. Leo Cullen is similarly an exceptional talent. According to Bernard Jackman his forte is man management and leadership. They are the most important abilities a head coache must have. The technical stuff Girve, Richie Murphy, John Fogarty and Kurt McQuilkin can take care of. Best of luck to Leinster’s new coaching “regime”. Arise and follow Leo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Aug 19th 2015, 3:47 PM

    For every franz Beckenbauer there’s a Steve “I’m the gaffer” staunton.
    A one year deal to be extended should have been issued.
    We have suffered for the past two seasons and a gamble such as this if it goes belly up will mean at least 4 seasons of regression.
    I am going to get behind Leo after I calm down and build on the positives ( and there are loads ) but I don’t think a 2 year gamble at this stage is the Crieff decision.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:02 PM

    Keep it positive, Chris!!!

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    Aug 19th 2015, 5:32 PM

    Let me get over the shock Riocard. I’ll get behind Leo soon enough.

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    Mute Riocard Ó Tiarnaigh
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    Aug 19th 2015, 6:50 PM

    Maith fear! COYBIB!!!

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Aug 20th 2015, 1:22 AM

    Lonestar I’d like to think I had something to do with it but I’m afraid his inability to do the job he was paid for was why he got sacked.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:19 PM

    jaysus the negativity is dumbfounding. he’s been in a supporting role for a yr, he can see what the issues are and knows what’s required. He has a good supporting cast, Kurt signing for 2 yrs is great news. girv gets a shot with the backs, if it doesn’t work our bring in higher profile for 2nd half of season. its fairly clear leinsters hands were tied as no one high profile wanted the job. Leo short on experience but tainting him with any aspect of last season, including forwards, may be wide of the mark as we don’t know the circumstances or directives he was working under. How great will it be if it works out? leinster developing their own Liverpool, bootroom style, succession planning

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:46 PM

    This never works

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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:58 AM

    About time…. Le-o, Le-o, Le-o

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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:50 AM

    No better man Leo!

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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:51 AM

    Ah there’s quite a few better men in fairness.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:10 PM

    Have to say this sounds brutal. 3 times European Champions with a rookie coach. For some bizarre reason I am getting the old “Ireland don’t want to win the Eurovision” feeling again.
    This will not end well.

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    Mute Lou Tennant
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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:11 PM

    Very true Aaron, I dunno is it because leinster are struggling to attract a top coach or whether they are just willing to take a risk with big Leo but either way I could think of 10 better and more suitable coaches for the job

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:20 PM

    In fairness Joe was a rookie coach when Leinster took him on and look at home now, he’s possibly the best coach in the world, definitely in the northern hemisphere at least. We got it wrong with O’Connor but maybe he was, on paper, the safe bet back then, maybe a bold move is what we need. Best of luck to him. A leinster man who knows leinster rugby with good men of the old guard behind him who also know how things were run in the good times. This could go very very well. It could also be a disaster but I choose to be optimistic! ;-)

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:32 PM

    @bazhealey I’m flummoxed! The “Old Guard”? What are you talking about. Cheika won our first cup. Leinster until then were considered a joke in European rugby. Capable of beating anyone but absolutely no consistency. He is doing exactly the same thing with the Australians at the moment.

    In order to become champions you have to have a champion coach. The logic behind O’Connor’s appointment was sound. However he was put in the position where his style definitely didn’t suit that of Schmidt’s. I think it was proved definitively last year that Player Power should never be a factor in the appointment of a coach. Yet again we have been given quotes by the team that they are behind Leo. The reality is that if we want to win another European Championship we are going to need the best coach we can get and I can tell you now it is definitely not Leo.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 12:43 PM

    Joe was far from a rucky coach he had coached in New Zealand and Clermont where he was highly regarded. The difference between Cullens and Smiths path to leinster head coach couldn’t be more different.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 2:31 PM

    Hope he was paying attention during all Schmidt’s coaching sessions and video reviews.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 2:14 PM

    i saw him at the big grill festival on Sunday. We are besties now

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    Aug 19th 2015, 2:27 PM

    congrats to Cullen.. as a Munster fan will be interesting to see how he gets on..

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    Mute John
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    Aug 19th 2015, 1:57 PM

    Not convinced by this at all. Cullen just doesn’t have the experience for this job.

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    Mute Brian O' Connor
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    Aug 19th 2015, 4:49 PM

    Leo Cullen has captained every team for which he has played including his country. In that role he would have interacted with coaches, selectors and trainers over the many years he played. I wish him and the team the very best for the coming season which will be difficult due to the demands of the WC. He has a good coaching team around him and a great squad of players to pick from.

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    Aug 19th 2015, 9:21 PM

    Best of luck to Leo. Hopefully they recruit a high profile backs coach post RWC also. Someone that can act as a mentor to him the way Gaffney did for Cheika at Leinster and the Warratahs. Someone like Ex Wallabies and Reds Super Rugby winning attack coach Jim McKay would be excellent. He’s with Tonga for the RWC

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    Aug 19th 2015, 7:59 PM

    Delighted with this appointment. Long may Leo reign!

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    Aug 19th 2015, 10:38 PM

    In Leo what we have is a very intelligent passionate Leinster man, I wish him and Kurt (defensive coach) all the best. What seriously miss fired last season was our use of the ball in attack… so for me Girvan as backs coach ( if I’m right) will bear the mosw pressure from the supporters who demand high quality finishing from our backline

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    Aug 19th 2015, 11:55 PM

    I don’t agree with Leinster Rugby’s very premature appointment of Leo Cullen as head coach, but the proven and impressive Kurt McQuilkin will be the most crucial man for Leinster over the next two years (along with Richie Murphy arguably, who as a coach has worked closely with Joe Schmidt over the past few years and would have learnt a good deal from him), in terms of his input as a member of the coaching team and on the training field.

    The extension of Kurt McQuilkin’s stay from an initial three-month contract to a two-year contract is the one, small silver lining from today’s coaching announcement from Leinster Rugby.

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