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Foley will take over as Munster head coach next season. ยฉINPHO/James Crombie

Foley: 'If you don't have the core skills, there's no point in having an overall philosophy'

The Munster head coach-to-be discusses his coaching beliefs and the challenges that await.

โ€œTHEREโ€™S NO POINT in having an overall game plan if you canโ€™t execute it.โ€

Anthony Foleyโ€™s response to a question on how he will look to set up his Munster team next season gives a clear indication as to where his priorities as a head coach will lie. The 40-year-old will assume the position when Rob Penney leaves the province at the end of the current campaign, taking on a role he has seemed destined to fill.

Having served under both Tony McGahan and Penney, the Killaloe man feels he is ready. Foleyโ€™s legacy was created during his playing days with Munster but as countless other sportspeople have proved, being a great player does not necessarily translate into being a successful coach.

Foley points out that while there is a certain degree of overlap, the mindsets required are almost opposite.

Itโ€™s a different way of life. You know what you want as a player and itโ€™s self-centred. You know what you want around you and what makes you tick. As a coach, you need to put those pieces together.

โ€œYouโ€™re really trying to put a group together, a group dynamic, and still cater for the individuals. As a player, you just worry about your own little work area. As a coach, you have to really look outside, bring everybody in and make sure youโ€™re all going in the one direction.โ€

Excelling at a certain skill when playing the game is an entirely different thing to having the ability to transfer that expertise to another person. It can be a stumbling block for many ex-players, that ability to impart their technical know-how.

Anthony Foley Foley faces the media after he was announced as Penney's successor. ยฉINPHO / Ryan Byrne ยฉINPHO / Ryan Byrne / Ryan Byrne

Foley points out that as a coach he has learned that simply explaining or demonstrating a skill isnโ€™t enough. Following that process up with demanding deliberate practice is the real key.

โ€œYouโ€™ve got to teach it. Youโ€™ve got to sit back, explain it. As a player, once you understand why something has to be done, then itโ€™s easier to transfer it across. Itโ€™s about getting the โ€˜whyโ€™, then doing the โ€˜howโ€™, and then making sure you preach it on a continuous basis.

โ€œItโ€™s not just a once-off, because to form habits you have to think about doing them. Once you master the habit, itโ€™s about doing it, and not thinking about it. In order to formulate habits, itโ€™s a lot of repetitive stuff, itโ€™s a lot of making sure itโ€™s done right.

You can build a bad habit as well as a good habit, so itโ€™s about making sure the good habits are really hammered home as part of what weโ€™re looking for as a collective unit.โ€

Foleyโ€™s excellent standing among the players at Munster has been built up through the close individual skills and unit work he carries out in his current capacity as an assistant coach. His focus has been on the forward pack, as well as the defence and the entire area of the breakdown.

Moving into the head coaching position, Foley acknowledges that the โ€œworst thing I could do would be to step awayโ€ from the technical side of things, but he understands that he โ€œwonโ€™t be able to do everything.โ€

Without going into specifics, the Shannon clubman says the process of appointing his backroom staff is developing, and stresses that a vital part of his new role will be making sure he has โ€œenough people around you that you trust to get the little bits done.โ€

Anthony Foley ยฉINPHO / Ryan Byrne ยฉINPHO / Ryan Byrne / Ryan Byrne

Foleyโ€™s role will become more about overseeing the entire operation, with his demands feeding into the work his own assistant coaches carry out in the day-to-day training. That will all relate back to how the former No. 8 wants his team to play the game, an issue that has perhaps concerned some Munster supporters.

Foley is of the belief that success in rugby is based around constantly improving the core skills of the players. While the game plan and the tactics are certainly of high importance to him, Foley says better players will mean a better team display.

โ€œI think the most important thing, the one thing Iโ€™ve seen as a coach and a player, is that the core skills โ€“ the catch-pass, decision-making, tackling, understanding when to do things โ€“ are vital.

If you donโ€™t have the core skills โ€“ an ability to run a line, the ability to create space, the ability to put away passes, the ability to tackle, the ability to do breakdown work โ€“ thereโ€™s no point in having an overall philosophy.โ€

Nor does Foley want his Munster team to become overly slavish to one particular pre-agreed pattern or shape. The 62-times capped Ireland international sees adaptability as an important element.

โ€œYou get your fundamentals right first, then you get a structure in place and that structure can change from week-to-week, opposition-to-opposition, depending on conditions and weather. Itโ€™s got to be a small bit flexible, so Iโ€™ll try not to lock us into something that isnโ€™t flexible and make sure itโ€™s well within our playing ability to do it.

โ€œTo be honest, there isnโ€™t too much within this group that we canโ€™t do in terms of the ability of player we have. Itโ€™s about not being vague or not being too broad in our strokes.

Anthony Foley Serving as the Ireland Wolfhounds head coach has been a stepping stone for Foley. ยฉINPHO / Dan Sheridan ยฉINPHO / Dan Sheridan / Dan Sheridan

โ€œItโ€™s about being nice and tight, accurate in what weโ€™re doing and a lot of that will be about improving our catch-pass, a lot of it will be about improving our decision-making, a lot will be running lines, creating space. That will probably take up most of pre-season, to be honest.โ€

As Penneyโ€™s demands that Munster move the ball wide repeatedly when in possession have begun to pay real dividends this season, some critics have suggested that by appointing Foley as their next head coach, the province are regressing.

Those assertions are loosely based around the idea that Foley is heavily indoctrinated in โ€˜the Munster wayโ€™ of playing the game, a forwards-orientated style that resulted in so much success in the 2000s.

But that theory snags upon an underlying stereotyping of rugby in the southern province, according to Foley.

We have a great laugh about that. Niall [O'Donovan, Munster's team manager and a man Foley says will be vital for him as head coach] dropped a DVD into me of Shannonโ€™s โ€™97/98 season, back in the good old days of Rhys Ellison, Mick Galwey, all those lads. Jesus, we played some rugby.

โ€œI know youโ€™re only looking at the highlights, but even when you go onto YouTube and look at some of the games we played for Munster, obviously we had forward dominance, but our backs were excellent and our inter-change and continuity, our ability to take on fellas, it was all part of the game.

โ€œI just think at times it gets very lazy in spectators or commentators about pigeon-holing what we used to do. We had a brand of rugby that we were very comfortable playing because all our club sides played it.

โ€œWhen we went from our club sides to Munster, it became very much based around keeping the ball alive, keeping continuity, keeping that pace on the game that we could live at, while also making sure that we won the physical battles.โ€

Anthony Foley Foley says he has learned about different ideas and philosophies under Penney. ยฉINPHO / Donall Farmer ยฉINPHO / Donall Farmer / Donall Farmer

These words will perhaps offer encouragement to any Munster fans with reservations, but the real judgement on Foleyโ€™s ability as a head coach will come in the next two [or three] seasons with the results on the pitch.

He stresses that this is something of a step into the unknown for everybody involved, but says he will ensure โ€œevery rock is turned overโ€ with Munsterโ€™s success in mind. Foley has interacted with coaching mentors as part of his learning curve, aware that he is still moving upwards along that arc.

Penney has been part of that procedure, being โ€œthe most positive man youโ€™ll ever come across.โ€ Former Munster head coaches Declan Kidney, Alan Gaffney and McGahan have all been involved in the cross-pollination of ideas too.

I rang Tony on a number of occasions over the past couple of years. Iโ€™ve rung Alan, I constantly talk to Declan Kidney. Theyโ€™ve been through this, theyโ€™ve lived this, theyโ€™ve had their questions, doubts and successes.

โ€œRather than making the same mistakes they made, you can talk to them and get their ideas, the reasons they do things. Nobody has all the answers; itโ€™s about having a circle of trust, I suppose, having people that you can call upon that you know and respect.

โ€œItโ€™s always good to be constantly communicating and itโ€™s important. Itโ€™s the same with the players. Itโ€™s about allowing them to have their views as well. Itโ€™s great to have those rugby chats, because different ideas pop up and you can bounce ideas off people.โ€

โ€œEverybody here loves the game, everybody here loves Munster.โ€

Anthony Foley is an ambassador for the Guinness Plus App, which is giving fans the chance to win some epic prizes, including the opportunity to join current Irish International Sean Oโ€™Brien for a one-of-a-kind rugby masterclass. The Guinness Plus App is available to download for iPhone and Android smartphones from the iTunes App Store and Google Play Store now.

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:29 AM

    I donโ€™t buy this Premier League era, Itโ€™s a farce and disrespectful to what came before.

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:32 AM

    Donโ€™t worry Liverpool wonโ€™t be forgotten..

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:50 AM

    True.. It is a great story, but disrespectful to all the father and son champions before it who are left out by saying premier league era.

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    May 3rd 2016, 12:06 PM

    Sky invented english soccer- well thatโ€™s what they want you to think. This was never more evident than Vardys excellent run of goals this season ignoring Jimmy Dunne, it is only one example it like soccer was not played in England until 1992, like you see in extreme communist regimes where they start at year zero and all previous history is deleted.

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    May 3rd 2016, 12:09 PM

    Shaun Wright Phillips isnโ€™t Ian Wright โ€˜s son .He got with her Ma ,thats all .

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:15 PM

    I have no doubt about that, The most successful club in England and still counting.

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    May 3rd 2016, 2:56 PM

    Not having a go but technically Man Utd are if you are on about English titles (20-18), and overall major trophy wins (62-60).

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    May 3rd 2016, 3:25 PM

    Major trophies? Thats way too much either wayโ€ฆ. League, FA Cup, League Cup, CL, Europa/UEFA, CWC. Do not count Charity Shield, European Super cup or World Clubโ€ฆ..

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    May 3rd 2016, 3:31 PM

    Would you count UEFA cup is that classed as a major? Considering itโ€™s only open to teams not good enough for champions league.. For me that doesnโ€™t make it a major.

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    May 3rd 2016, 4:42 PM

    So, when it was just champions enter European cup, and many great teams went into UEFA, considered minor? Any tournament that qualifies you for the following season is major. What do you consider major?

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:35 PM

    In England League, Champions League, FA Cup and League cup in the that order.. Then maybe world club cup followed by Europa league but I wouldnโ€™t count them as majors especially the Europa League as it isnโ€™t of the highest standard..

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:39 PM

    World club is a micky mouse FIFA show case of the highest orderโ€ฆโ€ฆ. Reallyโ€ฆ. Europa cup has the teams that just miss out on CL, and CL teams who came 3rdโ€ฆ.. Very low quality, huh? Ffsโ€ฆ.

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:44 PM

    The UEFA cup had plenty of good teams when only champions could enter the European cup. The cup winners cup was of lower quality in the 80s/90s. The league stage of the Europa league is cat, no doubt but once hit 1/4 finals, itโ€™s a good standard. The World Club
    Championship is only a farce of a competition

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:45 PM

    As I said not of the highest standard never said low.. I mean great players donโ€™t want to win it as they want the champions league.. Itโ€™s good for average clubs and the real prize for winning it now is a spot in the champions league..

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:56 PM

    Irish, FA cup and League cup is only taken serious by โ€˜quality โ€˜ teams if they have no hope in the league. And yes, I know who played League Cup final.

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    May 3rd 2016, 8:17 PM

    Liverpool 41 United 39 good man!

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    May 3rd 2016, 8:44 PM

    United are 40 Liverpool 41

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    May 3rd 2016, 9:45 PM

    The FA cup has not been won yetโ€ฆ. And 25 years of dominance and still behind? No wonder Sky Sports Man Utd like to say it all started in 92.

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    May 3rd 2016, 9:50 PM

    Who mentioned the FA cup? I hardly included that

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    May 3rd 2016, 10:04 PM

    Well, I missed something, where you get 40?

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    May 3rd 2016, 10:07 PM

    Google it and it comes up..

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    May 3rd 2016, 10:50 PM

    Yes, league, league cup, fa cup, european cup/cl, uefa/europa and European cup winners, get 39.

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    May 3rd 2016, 10:58 PM

    Well itโ€™s seems world club championship is counted.. I guess thatโ€™s understandable as its best team from each winners from the champions league from all around the world..

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:00 PM

    Btw I still think Europa league shouldnโ€™t count after 1992 as its second rate teams.. But letโ€™s not argue over little things..

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:13 PM

    World club is a fifa showcase, played in japan, where only South American or European teams will win, where you get hear team names such as mamadodooi extreme warriors or whateverโ€ฆโ€ฆ In Japanโ€ฆ. Causing a fixture congestion back homeโ€ฆ. Yes, major trophy, unlike that mickey mouse cup Europa which has useless teams such as Sevilla, Dortmund, Liverpool, Man Utd, Atleticoโ€ฆ.. Whatever makes you sleep peacefullyโ€ฆ.. Funny too, you would say that about a trophy Man U have never even come close to winningโ€ฆ.. I know Liverpool have never won World Club, been closeโ€ฆ. Christ, it was also skipped for yearsโ€ฆ.. If it was so major, that would never happen.

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    May 3rd 2016, 11:26 PM

    I rather my team win the world club cup than the Euorpa league and I think every fan would agree with that.. Teams who win the Europa league are teams who come 5th, 6th or 7th in there league.. Teams who win the World Club cup win the champions league.. Just look at the winners of it all top clubs. And the Japan teams you mentioned never won it.. Donโ€™t worry tho Liverpool are still aheadโ€ฆ

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    May 4th 2016, 1:35 AM

    Whatever, Europa cup was very important before Man Utd played Liverpool, after that is was a useless cup. World club is a money maker for FIFA, and nothing else, every fan knows that except you. But do not worry, I have no problem acknowledging Man Utdโ€™s dominance that they had, they were brilliant, and yea, as a Pool fan, that is hard, but credit were credit is dueโ€ฆ. But you demean a cup, where some of the finest teams in Europe still contest is not right, world club is a joke, no team wants to be there. I am not going to respond after this one, and also, I guess Man Utd stay at 39, your not going to count the cup winners? Where teams near the end could qualifyโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ?

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    May 4th 2016, 8:42 AM

    Every team want to win the world club cup as it means they already won the champions league..

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    May 4th 2016, 8:45 AM

    Btw Iโ€™m not the making this up just google it and United are 40 and Liverpool 41.. I donโ€™t know why it bothers you so much.. Fair enough you donโ€™t respect the World Cup and I donโ€™t respect the Europa league for the past 20 years ( due to the greater number of teams taking part in the champions league) but nevertheless our opinions donโ€™t matter in the overall count..

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    May 3rd 2016, 4:04 PM

    Like Father Like Son !

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:53 PM

    Who are u talking about chef

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    May 3rd 2016, 2:47 PM

    The team that irish brought up.

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    May 3rd 2016, 3:13 PM

    But Chef you follow Shamrock Rovers !!

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    May 3rd 2016, 8:15 PM

    Shels.

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