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'The first day I met him was in the LIT canteen 15 years ago and I was going, 'Jesus, I'm here with Davy Fitz''

In the second installment of a two-part coaching series, The42 chats with Wexford hurling coach Seoirse Bulfin.

THIS IS THE second installment of our two-part coaching series which aims to learn about the modern inter-county coach. Last week, we spoke with Meath football coach Colm Nally โ€“ and you can read that piece here.

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Our subject this week is Wexford coach Seoirse Bulfin, who has been Davy Fitzgeraldโ€™s trusted lieutenant since they first met in LIT in 2003.

kilkenny-v-wexford-allianz-hurling-league-division-1a-round-5 Wexford manager Davy Fitzgerald and coach Seoirse Bulfin prior to the league clash against Kilkenny in 2018. Brendan Moran / SPORTSFILE Brendan Moran / SPORTSFILE / SPORTSFILE

Hailing from the Bruff club to the south of Limerick city, Bulfin played in goals for Limerick minors in 1997 and captained Mary I in the Fitzgibbon Cup in 2003. He continued to represent his club at senior level up until 2017. 

By the time he finished college, he was already immersed in coaching.

After graduating from Mary I the same year, Bulfin managed to land the role of GAA development officer in Limerick IT which brought him into contact with Fitzgerald for the first time.

Together they led the college to Fitzgibbon titles in 2005 and 2007, before joining forces again in Waterford in 2011. When Fitzgerald was appointed Clare manager in 2012, he brought Bulfin on board as part of his backroom team and the pair were on the sideline when the Banner lifted the Liam MacCarthy Cup the following year. 

Over a colourful coaching career, Bulfin also managed Ballyagran camogie team to the Limerick senior championship title in 2011 which ended a 30-odd year famine, while the team was captained by his wife Sharon, the former Limerick player who is the sister of Treaty legend Andrew Oโ€™Shaughnessy.

In recent years, Bulfin has been coach with Wexford which involves embarking on those six-hour round trips to their training base in Ferns. They delivered the Leinster title this summer, an achievement that Bulfin rates as his most memorable in the game.

saoirse-bulfin-speaks-with-referee-fergal-horgan Bulfin speaks with referee Fergal Horgan during this year's Leinster SHC tie against Kilkenny. James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

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1. How did your interest in coaching begin? 

โ€œI would have started coaching at a very young age. My dad (Tom Bulfin) was a primary school teacher and he brought me up to the field. I was coaching the six and seven-year-olds from when I was 12 or 13.

โ€œThe big break, for want of a better word, was I went to UL for a year and didnโ€™t like it at all. So I switched courses and went back to Mary I. I was doing first year of a new course again so I wasnโ€™t eligible to play Freshers. 

โ€œNoreen Lynch, who died last year and was way ahead of her time from a female coachโ€™s point of view, asked if I would take the Fresherโ€™s team. So that was my first high level coaching assignment. I was coaching my own peers, my own age group, so that was where I really started coaching. That was in โ€™98 or โ€™99. From there on in, I was coaching some team or other.โ€

2. Your father Tom was Limerick coach with Phil Bennis back in the 1980s and early 1990s. Was hurling constantly being discussed at home when you were young?

โ€œOh the whole time. Iโ€™m from a big GAA background. When Limerick last won the minor in โ€™84 he was a selector with Phil Bennis. And he was a selector in โ€™87 when they won the U21. When they won the National League in โ€™92 he was with Phil Bennis too.

โ€œSo even as a child, Iโ€™d have been going to matches. Iโ€™m have been head next to heels involved in hurling. I would have seen Phil Bennis in operation from a very young age. There were so many similarities between Phil Bennis and Davy Fitz at times. Myself and Dad would often discuss it, heโ€™d be telling stories. โ€˜Tis frightening how similar they are.

โ€œPhil was definitely ahead of his time. They only got two years with the senior team in Limerick and Iโ€™d still argue that if they got the third year Iโ€™ve no doubt they would have won the All-Ireland in โ€™94. 100%, Iโ€™d be adamant of that.

โ€œThe way the system was at the time, in the very first year they won the league, the following year they were beaten by Clare in the first round and that was that effectively then. The county board felt it was time for a change in management after two years and Tom Ryan was brought in. So weโ€™re constantly talking about hurling.

โ€œMy father is a retired principal now but he goes back into the school every Tuesday for a whole academic year and takes kids hurling for the afternoon. The different I find now is I have three small kids of my own, three girls, and Iโ€™d find it very difficult to coach children now.

โ€œAnd I keep telling the lads at home, โ€˜Youโ€™ve to be able to coach children.โ€™ When the likes of Lee Chin turn up to a session, theyโ€™re easy to coach but mother of God trying to coach kids now is torturous because itโ€™s a different level altogether. Youโ€™ve to be able to coach, youโ€™ll bluff the likes of Lee Chin but you wonโ€™t bluff a six-year-old girl โ€“ trust me on that!โ€

3. What was the highlight of your playing career? 

โ€œI captained the Fitzgibbon Cup team in Mary I in 2003. That was big. Playing minor for Limerick would have been a huge honour for me. It would have been as good as it got for me from a playing point of view.  

โ€œSome of the other things, winning a south intermediate title with Bruff was a huge achievement as well. That would have been a huge thing, big crowd. I remember making a save, one of the last plays, it was an important save โ€“ a one-on-one kind of thing that swung the game. So that always sticks in my mind.โ€ 

4. What did you study in college?

โ€œI did Law and European Studies in UL which wasnโ€™t for me. So I went across to Mary I for the four years and I did Arts with a view to go into secondary teaching. It was history and geography that I was doing.

โ€œI graduated out of Mary I in May 2003 and within a few weeks a job came up as a GAA development officer in Limerick IT. So I was just out of college and I gave in my name for it. I didnโ€™t dream Iโ€™d get it. I got the job and Iโ€™m in LIT since.

โ€œThe plan was to do a couple of years as the development officer and maybe go back and do my HDip and go secondary teaching. In the meantime, while I was in LIT I did a Masters and Iโ€™m lecturing here now for the last five or six years. Thatโ€™s my career path.โ€

jackie-tyrrell-and-eoin-kelly Jackie Tyrrell and Eoin Kelly were team-mates at LIT. Cathal Noonan / INPHO Cathal Noonan / INPHO / INPHO

5. As a hurling-mad fella in your early-20s, you must have been delighted to get the role of LIT development officer.

โ€œI was thrilled, it was fantastic. I came in and it coincided with Davy Fitz taking over the Fitzgibbon team here and all of a sudden, I wasnโ€™t that much older than Jackie Tyrrell, Eoin Kelly and these guys, and I was surrounded by the young superstars.

โ€œIt was like Christmas morning every day watching these guys train, watching them hurl. At that stage, I was really only involved in the admin side of things with the Fitzgibbon. I was doing a little bit with Davy and then as the year progressed I was doing more and more of the coaching and stuff. 

โ€œYou get a lot of breaks in your life and for me, I got very lucky at certain stages. Thatโ€™s the way I would see it. From the point of view I was lucky. A lot of coaches wouldnโ€™t get the breaks I got.

โ€œI was very lucky to come into LIT when Davy was coming in and I started working with Davy. I went in watching the likes of Eoin Kelly, Jackie Tyrrell, Fraggie (Kieran Murphy).

โ€œWe had a couple of phenomenal years, we had Joe Canning, Conor Oโ€™Mahony, Shane McGrath โ€“ jeez I was pox to kind of learn my trade with some of the best young hurlers in the country.โ€

6. What was the idea behind those famous early morning training sessions at LIT in the freezing cold and biting wind?

โ€œThere was a very practical side of it from a college point of view. It wasnโ€™t just to test them, it was literally to give guys a free run at the day then from the point of view of their studies. That was one aspect.

โ€œThe second thing was you were getting guys to buy into something to push them out of their comfort zone. Itโ€™s something you kind of have then as the year progresses, you can say, โ€˜Look at what we have in the bank. Look at the effort we went to. Not many teams will have made those sacrifices.โ€™

โ€œYouโ€™re just building on that. Youโ€™re banking a certain amount of stuff you can come back to when times are getting tough maybe in competition and stuff. And you also get a real test of the guys that youโ€™re working with to see what theyโ€™re like.โ€

7. Davy Fitz had a great quote about the Wexford players after the Leinster final where he said, โ€˜If I told you what I put them lads through, you wouldnโ€™t believe it.โ€™ Is that the same principle? You can keep referring back to those tough training sessions at difficult moments in the season?

โ€œThatโ€™s the big thing. You can keep referring back to it, that the work has been done, youโ€™ve put in the work.

โ€œNow itโ€™s like anything, itโ€™s no more than any other team at that level would have done, but itโ€™s still nice to say, โ€˜Listen, weโ€™ve all been through this, weโ€™ve all had a lot of hard times, weโ€™ve worked very, very hard to get where we areโ€™. And you keep drawing on that. Itโ€™s sort of part of the psychological training of a team more than anything else.โ€ 

davy-fitzgerald-speaks-to-his-team-after-the-game Fitzgerald speaks to the Wexford players after their All-Ireland semi-final loss to Tipperary. James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

8. You have a Masters in psychology from Waterford IT. Is that a big area of interest for you?

โ€œIโ€™d be hugely into it. I could even tell you the exact moment when I got interested in sports psychology and Wexford were actually involved. It was the 1996 All-Ireland final and I was a teenager sitting in the lower Cusack as a Limerick supporter. After about 20 minutes or so, Iโ€™ve looked back on it on Youtube but I canโ€™t remember the exact time.

โ€œI was a goalkeeper and (Wexford keeper) Damien Fitzhenry had gotten very little ball. Mike Houlihan hit a line ball from in front of the Hogan Stand from about 80 yards out. It just took off like a rocket. Iโ€™ve often spoken to goalkeepers about this, one of the hardest balls to deal with from a goalkeeping point of view is a line ball because itโ€™s swirling and itโ€™s dipping.

โ€œThis one was coming in at about crossbar height like a missile. And Fitzhenry just put up his hand, plucked it out of the sky and bate it down the field. And at that stage, I was maybe 15 or 16, and I used to get very nervous before games.

โ€œI remember thinking, โ€˜What kind of mindset must you have in the most important game of his life just to literally โ€“ bang, put the hand up with no fear of him dropping it or anything like that?โ€™ 

โ€œThe psychology behind sport and performance, it was literally down to the genesis of that idea for me. When I got the chance to do the Masters, I found it fantastically interesting. I did it in WIT and Iโ€™m doing my PhD in it in Mary I now.

โ€œNow thatโ€™s going to take a long time and youโ€™re trying to mix it with work and family and Wexford and everything, so yeah thatโ€™s my next level now. I donโ€™t have much done but Iโ€™ve a year done on it.

โ€œJohn Perry, who is my supervisor, is the Dean of Arts in Mary I and he would have worked with soccer teams and stuff. So Iโ€™ve a huge interest in the psychology of sport and performance.โ€

9. When youโ€™re working with players on psychology, do you mainly do it on an individual basis or in a group setting?

โ€œAt the moment, Iโ€™m all about the coaching. My argument is you canโ€™t go in and do both โ€“ you canโ€™t be a jack of all trades. Now, guys will come and talk to you and stuff, thereโ€™s no problem with that.

โ€œI remember one of the years in Clare, Fitzy said, โ€˜Do you want to do the psychology?โ€™ I said, โ€˜I wonโ€™t. Iโ€™ll either go coaching or Iโ€™ll do the psychology.โ€™ I think youโ€™re devaluing both positions if youโ€™re trying to do both. 

โ€œEvery now and again youโ€™ll get a call from a team saying, โ€˜Listen, they have a county final or a relegation final, will you come in and talk to them?โ€™ On a one-off like that, Iโ€™ve said to them, โ€˜If you felt they were unfit, would you bring in an S&C coach for one session before a game?โ€™

โ€œYou wouldnโ€™t and I think a lot of the group stuff doesnโ€™t work a whole pile. Iโ€™ve said it to anyone thatโ€™s practising sports psychology, youโ€™re better off to try and embed yourself with the squad โ€“ whatever the sport is โ€“ and try get to as many training sessions and meet guys individually.

โ€œNow four or five of those group sessions every year are grand but if youโ€™re doing one or two talks over the course of 12 months, lads are going to get very little out of it. I would say you need a psychologist whoโ€™s just like an S&C coach or dietician.

โ€œThatโ€™s the point Iโ€™d make, youโ€™re not going to bring in an S&C coach three or four times a year for a squad and hope for the best for the rest of the year.โ€

10. Do you keep a notebook or diary where you jot down drills or ideas?

โ€œI would and would you believe I just doing a coaching skills class with first years this morning, There was a lad that was doing a soccer drill I said, โ€˜Why did you do that?โ€™ And he wasnโ€™t sure he said, โ€˜Why are you asking?โ€™ I said, โ€˜I want to adapt that and use it as a warm-up drill.โ€™ I was putting a drill in my notebook.

โ€œSo immediately (when I started coaching) I would have started making a lot of notes with my training sessions โ€“ what worked for me and what didnโ€™t work. 

โ€œBut now itโ€™s just a time thing. Youโ€™re getting back into the car and driving home from Wexford. What I like about the drive is the fact that you get time to go over everything. Similar to going down.

โ€œIt takes the bones of three hours to get there and I found it great to unwind after work and to plan whatever youโ€™re doing for the night.

โ€œIโ€™ve diaries at home for a couple of years, Iโ€™ll be honest Iโ€™ve probably in the last couple of years let it lapse a small bit but Iโ€™d always be trying to do different things. Variety is very important with coaching. Davy would be big on that as well. Youโ€™re not doing the thing session-in, session-out because lads would be getting turned off.โ€

davy-fitzgerald-celebrates-at-the-final-whistle Celebrations at the final whistle in the Leinster final. Tommy Dickson / INPHO Tommy Dickson / INPHO / INPHO

11. Youโ€™ve worked very closely with Davy since 2003, how has the dynamic between you two changed over the years?

โ€œI suppose itโ€™s like anything, the longer youโ€™re with someone the more they trust you, maybe the more they lean on you. The more youโ€™re willing to maybe speak your mind and from my point of view, youโ€™re not worried about whether heโ€™ll take something (the wrong way).

โ€œLiterally the first day I met him it was down in the canteen in LIT 15 years ago. Being a goalkeeper myself, I was sitting across from one of my heroes. I would have felt it was a golden age for goalkeepers with himself, Brendan Cummins, Donal Og Cusack and I was going, โ€˜Jesus, Iโ€™m here with Davy Fitz.โ€™

โ€œObviously, when you start working with a person you get to know him fairly quick and that sort of goes out the window, because if youโ€™re going to be like that youโ€™re not going to get on in your job or whatever. 

โ€œThere was a couple of years there where we wouldnโ€™t have got on at all would you believe it because of the politics in LIT โ€“ I wonโ€™t go into it now. But we hardly spoke for two years until I went back into Waterford really that we kind of cleared the air in late 2010.

โ€œI went back in with Waterford for 2011 to train them and Iโ€™ve been with him since. The dynamicโ€ฆyou just get more friendly with people, they trust you more, you trust them more. Iโ€™d also feel that every passing year with Davy Iโ€™ll challenge him more and heโ€™ll challenge me more.

โ€œSo that stops a staleness setting in if you like, the fact that he will call you out on stuff. If heโ€™s not happy with a session I could spend an hour and a half on the way home from Wexford on the phone to him. And likewise, we could spend an hour and a half on the way home talking about a good session.

โ€œYouโ€™re just constantly trying to get the most out of each other and trying to improve each other every year. Because when you are working with someone for that length of time, if you donโ€™t challenge each other itโ€™s not going to last.

โ€œIt will just get stale and thatโ€™s why heโ€™s constantly challenging any of the guys around him, whether it is myself, Keith Rossiter or JJ (Doyle), heโ€™s constantly challenging us. But likewise, he expects us to challenge him as well and he thrives on that.โ€

12. When Davy was weighing up his decision to go back to Wexford, had you to do the same?

โ€œGenuinely, I have never felt a bond in the group like I have with the Wexford lads. They are a very, very special group of players. The only other group I would have felt like that with was with the Ballyagran camogie team when we finally won a senior championship in 2011.

โ€œIโ€™d worked with them for two different stints of two years. My wife Sharon was playing with them. It was sort of similar, you were trying to build a team that hadnโ€™t won for a long time, there was a lot of negativity at times outside the group that they werenโ€™t going to get over the line and that there were limitations to what they could achieve. 

โ€œWhen Davy said, โ€˜I donโ€™t know what Iโ€™ll do but if Iโ€™m going back to Wexford I want you 100%,โ€™ well then it was a no-brainer for me. I had just to wait and whatever happened after that happened.โ€

13. Winning an All-Ireland together with Clare in 2013 must have been very special. When you reflect on that day now, whatโ€™s the stand-out memory? 

โ€œI have two memories that are forever etched in my mind. One is I was doing maor foirne and I was sent down with a message maybe with about 10 or 12 minutes to go. I had to go across the pitch.

โ€œAs I came back across from the far sideline, I was making my way around behind the Hill 16 goals, the Hill was behind my back. And I just looked (up the field) and literally, youโ€™ve definitely seen that picture of Croke Park from the back of Hill 16 with a wide-angled lens.

โ€œThe sun was just setting on Saturday night and it was just this cacophony of noise and colour. I just have a mental photograph of it, it was phenomenal. It was just getting dark, you had the Dublin skyline to your right and you had noise, colour, it was just phenomenal.

a-view-of-the-team-parade A view of Croke Park from the Hill 16 end. Donall Farmer / INPHO Donall Farmer / INPHO / INPHO

โ€œThe other thing I remember, they got the last 21m free very late in the game. (Davy) sent me down to get it organised or something like that. I went down to tell Pa Kelly (Clare goalkeeper) not to have too many guys on the line because if it was stopped we didnโ€™t want a follow-up (shot).

โ€œSo I was standing on the net behind the goals screaming at Pa who had his back to me โ€“ it was two yards deep maybe the goalmouth โ€“ and he could not hear me. I will never forget it. As you get to Croke Park (in the latter stages of the championship) when the crowds are bigger it is very hard to hear, but that was the first time (Iโ€™d experienced that).

โ€œThe place was gone bananas and it was building to a crescendo. Then something else caught my attention. It was Johnny Ryan who was doing the line and he was screaming at me to get away behind the goals. It was just this noise building up to that last play.โ€

patrick-kelly-celebrates-with-selector-saoirse-bulfin Clare goalkeeper Pa Kelly celebrates with selector Bulfin when Clare won the All-Ireland in 2013. Donall Farmer / INPHO Donall Farmer / INPHO / INPHO

14. Itโ€™s funny, players often talk about the noise in Croke Park when itโ€™s packed and how you canโ€™t even get a message across to the lad next to you.

โ€œItโ€™s mad. For players itโ€™s one of the first things theyโ€™ll always talk about. I remember coming down a few weeks earlier after the Limerick semi-final and there were 70,000-odd at it.

โ€œAnd little things like that on the pitch, they were saying the full-back roaring at the corner-back or the centre-forward out to the half-forward and they just canโ€™t hear. Itโ€™s almost impossible to hear.โ€

15. When you talk about colour, noise and tension, Iโ€™d imagine this yearโ€™s Leinster final is right up there too. What jumps out to you from that day?

โ€œIt was the culmination of nearly three years of work. They are a phenomenal bunch of guys. They will give you their heart and soul. You can see the only reason Davy is making a trip down for another couple of years, why heโ€™s not taking a break, is purely down to the players.

โ€œAnd again youโ€™re getting back to the earlier point, to see with the guys how hard they would have worked and they get their rewards at the end of it. 

โ€œI remember turning to Dermot Howlin, who is the liaison officer, on the pitch at the final whistle and there were tears in his eyes. Then you get a sense of just what it means to people. 

โ€œThose particular bunch of guys, Wexford hadnโ€™t had success really for 15 years since they won the Leinster championship, and it was just that outpouring of almost relief. It was like taking the top off a pressure cooker. What it meant to them and then the fact that theyโ€™d finally gotten over the line and were successful, it was phenomenal.โ€

Bulfin joined Davy Fitzgeraldโ€™s backroom team in Waterford in 2011 and that summer they suffered a heavy 7-19 to 0-19 hammering to Tipperary in the Munster final. 

16. Whatโ€™s the biggest lesson you learned along your coaching journey?  

โ€œThe hardest lesson, it wasnโ€™t even coaching, it was standing on the sideline in 2011 when Tipperary destroyed Waterford in the famous Munster final. The one thing that hit me that day was how lonely a spot the sideline can be.

โ€œItโ€™s great when things are going well. Itโ€™s great with a minute to go against Kilkenny in the Leinster final when all is going well and the whole county is behind you. But I remember that day, it was almost like the three or four of us that were on the line, you were getting bigger and bigger, and the people were getting further and further away from you. That was horrendous now.

โ€œI went for a game of golf the following day I was over with a friend of mine in Dundrum in Tipp. And it just so happened there were two four-balls of Waterford lads at the tee in front. Look, they didnโ€™t recognise me but while we were waiting they started talking about the game and the jokes started. 

โ€œโ€˜What time did ye get home?โ€™

โ€œโ€˜Oh we didnโ€™t get home until 7.19.โ€™

โ€œI remember going, โ€˜Oh Jesus.โ€™ You just wanted the ground to open up and swallow you. That was a harsh lesson to learn because realistically itโ€™s the old thing that victory has a thousand friends but failure is an orphan.

the-final-score A view of the score in the 2011 Munster final. Lorraine O'Sullivan / INPHO Lorraine O'Sullivan / INPHO / INPHO

โ€œThat was a tough place to be that day. It just said (to me), โ€˜Listen, there are going to bad days, if not more bad days when youโ€™re a coach, as good days.โ€™ 

โ€œThe other coaching thing I would have found, and this ties into psychology, when I started I started in Mary I, the likes of Eoin Kelly, Jackie Tyrrell, Fraggie and all these beautiful hurlers were there.

โ€œAt that stage it had been a few years since I had played minor and I probably wasnโ€™t going to get another shot at (playing with) Limerick. So I said, โ€˜Iโ€™m going to learn a lot from these guys because obviously theyโ€™re never fearful of making a mistake.โ€™ 

โ€œWhen in fact I found that these guys were far more fragile, for want of a better word, to the words you used and the language you used. To this day Iโ€™d still say it. Even during the summer, I remember passing a joke to one of the Wexford lads during training about a game previous, and you could see the guy physically wilting. I go, โ€˜Oh shit, my wordsโ€ฆI shouldnโ€™t have said that.โ€™ The boys were hopping off him.

โ€œGuysโ€™ confidence is very much on a knife-edge. I expected the likes of these guys that have All-Irelands, Eoin Kelly who was hitting frees for a living you could say for Tipperary and Jackie captained Kilkenny to an All-Ireland in 2006, and I thought these guys wonโ€™t fear anything and confidence is never an issue.

โ€œWhen in fact, the lesson I took out was maybe the more thatโ€™s at stake the more fragile I think they are. If youโ€™re playing club hurling, itโ€™s grand. You might be a bit nervous but ultimately you know that youโ€™re not going to be in the eye too much and stuff like that so itโ€™s not a huge issue, if you know what I mean.

โ€œBut thatโ€™s the other takeaway I learned. The higher up the levels are, sometimes the more fragile guys are and how careful you have to be around these guys. You just assume because theyโ€™ve done it year-in, year-out the confidence (is there) and they donโ€™t get affected by stuff, but in fact the opposite is true at times.โ€

davy-fitzgerald Fitzgerald watches on during the 2011 Munster final. James Crombie James Crombie

17. Whatโ€™s the most enjoyable thing about coaching? 

โ€œThereโ€™s a couple of things. One thing I would see is when youโ€™re starting like we did with Wexford and slowly over time youโ€™re trying to implement maybe a specific way of training, a specific way of playing, and when you see that kicking into place itโ€™s very, very rewarding. When you see them getting something like that, thatโ€™s really rewarding.

โ€œI wonโ€™t lie, winning for me is hugely important and thereโ€™s no point in saying anything otherwise. It is great to see progress and stuff but ultimately whether itโ€™s U6s or a senior side, winning is nice. Now obviously itโ€™s all relevant to the level.

โ€œI suppose for me, when youโ€™re trying to implement something and you see that coming off. Whether it is to get them to buy-in to training, whether itโ€™s a system, when you see that starting to click into gear itโ€™s hugely rewarding.โ€

18. Is there a particular skill youโ€™d always pay attention to with the Wexford lads?

โ€œThe one thing that I would be big on, and JJ Doyle would be forever on about this, the way the game has gone now itโ€™s all about small-sided games and game scenarios and keeping it as game-specific as possible, and that is very, very important.

โ€œBut for me when it comes to a game like hurling you just cannot beat working on your touch and your striking. And itโ€™s very simple, you can do that on your own be it at home, at the hurling wall โ€“ whatever it is.

โ€œFor me in hurling, if your touch is right and your strike is right, everything else falls into place. And at county level the pace of which you do all that is hugely important.โ€

19. Whatโ€™s the most consistent message youโ€™re always preaching to the players?

โ€œThe only thing I would be saying the whole time and itโ€™s the one thing I didnโ€™t have as a player until I was a little bit older, is just believe in yourself. If you donโ€™t have belief in yourself, youโ€™re at nothing. Whether itโ€™s coaching or playing, you have to believe in yourself, you have to believe youโ€™re as good as anyone else out there.

โ€œNow, within reason. Youโ€™re not going to be telling the Louth hurlers theyโ€™re as good as the Tipperary hurlers but you just have to have that belief that youโ€™re capable of pushing yourself to someplace youโ€™ve never been before.

โ€œWhether that was physically, technically or whatever. Just to keep working as hard as possible and believe in yourself.โ€

20. Whatโ€™s the most memorable game youโ€™ve been involved in as a coach?

โ€œCan I pick out two? Iโ€™ll pick out two. One was the county camogie senior final in 2011, it was a phenomenal occasion for us because it was 30-odd years since Ballyagran had won one. My wife was playing and she was captain so that was very important for the family, for Sharon, myself and the wider family.

โ€œAnd Iโ€™d still have a bond with those girls from Ballyagran. That was a huge day for me because it was one of the first big things Iโ€™d won on my own if you like, as a coach or manager, so thatโ€™s definitely one of them.

โ€œI was very lucky to be involved with Clare in 2013, but for me the Leinster final was just a phenomenal achievement. It was just the occasion and maybe itโ€™s closer in my mind at the moment but Iโ€™d consider that every bit as important โ€“ for me as a coach definitely every bit as important as 2013. Maybe I had more of a role to play for whatever reason.โ€ 

21. How easy or difficult was it to manage your own wife when you were over Ballyagran?

โ€œEmm, oh Jesus very difficult becauseโ€ฆListen, sheโ€™s from a huge hurling family as well from Kilmallock. Iโ€™d two stints with them. In 2005 and 2006 we were engaged. And then we were married the next time I went back in 2010 and 2011. We got to two finals and we won the second year.

โ€œThe one thing I would say about the girls in Ballyagran, and I remember two instances of dealing with Sharon, when youโ€™re a manager you have to be seen to treat everyone fairly. I was actually over Limerick camogie in 2006 as well and I got involved with Joe Hannon and Ger Hegarty, they kind of pulled out halfway through the summer and the girls asked me to finish out the year and I did.

โ€œBut in one of the games, Iโ€™d asked Sharon to do a particular job. She was very fit at the time, she was hurling well and I asked her to man-mark one of the top Cork forwards. And after seven minutes I took her off.

โ€œI remember roaring at her and Iโ€™ve said since that I was completely wrong. Because the year before she was half-forward, full-forward hitting the frees. All of a sudden it got into my head that she was one of the fittest players on the team, she had good hands and she was going to be able to do a man-marking job.

โ€œIโ€™d never done it to her in training, never asked her to man-mark anyone. She was lost to be fair. She came out to the sideline and she said, โ€œLook, what am I to do? You may as well take me off.โ€™

โ€œI said, โ€˜What did you say? Fine, youโ€™re coming off.โ€™ So that was interestingโ€ฆ

โ€œIn 2011, herself, the vice-captain and another player came to me just before the county semi-final. Sharon was playing hockey at the time and the two other girls, one was playing ladies football and one was playing soccer.

โ€œAnd they said to me, โ€˜Hockey, ladies football and soccer itโ€™s all starting back there now, can we play? Weโ€™re training such and such a night.โ€™ I said, โ€˜No problem at all, off ye go.โ€™ And they were about to turn away when I said, โ€˜Ye do that now and donโ€™t bother coming back to me. Ye are finished for the year.โ€™

โ€œThey said, โ€˜What do you mean?โ€™ I said, โ€˜You can do as much as you want once we have the county final won.โ€™ So again, they werenโ€™t too happy but they appreciated where I was coming from. It wasnโ€™t awkwardโ€ฆwell, it was and it wasnโ€™t.

โ€œSheโ€™d be very driven and she would set very high standards for herself so from that point of view it was easy.

โ€œShe wouldnโ€™t have been a huge fan of the sweeper now. Youโ€™d be coming home from a match in Wexford, a long journey in the car. But itโ€™s handy to have someone to bounce ideas off as well.โ€

sharon-oshaughnessy-2082005 Sharon Bulfin in action for Limerick in 2005. INPHO INPHO

22. When youโ€™re designing a training session with Wexford, how does the time of year and tactics dictate it?

โ€œLike any team these days, you try to train now as closely as youโ€™re going to be playing. Youโ€™ve a new system where youโ€™d five or six weeks on the bounce in the league, itโ€™s good in that it replicates what the championship is like, itโ€™s like a dry run. 

โ€œSo really then, you canโ€™t train too hard, maybe youโ€™ll do a block of around five or six weeks either side of Christmas when most teams start. You try and get as much of your conditioning done at that stage and after that youโ€™re planning your training around games.  

โ€œBecause remember, youโ€™re playing on a Sunday so you have to recover (on Monday). Then youโ€™re training maybe a Tuesday or Wednesday night, on the Friday night before league matches or any championship game youโ€™re not going to be doing too much. 

โ€œYouโ€™re listening to your S&C coaches, youโ€™re definitely looking at how lads are recovering and what kind of physical shape theyโ€™re in. Davy is very good at โ€“ say if he has a longer session planned on a night โ€“ he might look at guys in the warm-up and say, โ€˜Listen, we might need to ease off a bit here.โ€™ Or if he had a softer session planned he might say, โ€˜We can go a little bit longer, theyโ€™re fresh enough.โ€™  

โ€œItโ€™s all about trying to hit your peaks at the right time for whatever games youโ€™re looking at to peak for. Itโ€™s more to do with watching how fresh guys are and loading more than anything.โ€

23. Do you watch any other sports to get ideas? 

โ€œI watch a lot of sports. I love the NFL and I love cricket would you believe. When I was doing goalkeeping coaching say with Waterford or Clare in the early years, Iโ€™d have looked a lot at how wicket keepers were training for their reactions. And ice hockey goalies, Iโ€™d just look up different drills.  

โ€œIn the NFL, I love the way thereโ€™s certain set plays at certain times in a game which are very, very important but itโ€™s hard to replicate in hurling. If you try to script hurling too muchโ€ฆhurling to me is an art form.

โ€œPeople often go on about Davy and he has this system and that system, Davy gives guys parameters to play within and a rough idea. Ultimately, they have to play it as they see fit, it just takes on a life of its own. The minute the ball is thrown in you canโ€™t script a game for 80 minutes.

โ€œI would maybe look at other sports for how they train and stuff, especially the small-sided games and stuff from rugby or soccer. Like even in this morningโ€™s class, Iโ€™ll always pick up bits and pieces from the students. I always tell them that Iโ€™ll learn as much from them theyโ€™ll learn from me, far more.

โ€œYou just tweak them, some of them will work, some of them wonโ€™t, but donโ€™t be afraid to make a tit of yourself either coaching. If something doesnโ€™t work, it doesnโ€™t work. Or it doesnโ€™t work with one group but it might work with another group, you know?โ€

24. Whatโ€™s the most memorable sporting event youโ€™ve attended?

โ€œIโ€™d say the 2008 NFL game at Wembley, it was the San Diego Chargers and New Orlean Saints. It was 37-32 and probably the game of the weekend. It was just a great occasion, it was excellent.โ€

25. Whoโ€™s the best coaching brain youโ€™ve had a conversation with?

โ€œThe first year PJ Ryan was with us in Wexford, I thought he was brilliant. We travelled together, Iโ€™d collect him in Kilkenny and those chats were absolutely brilliant picking each otherโ€™s brains.

โ€œFergal Lynch from Clare is a top class coach, absolutely brilliant. Outside of Davy and my dad, theyโ€™d be the two guys Iโ€™d still be bouncing ideas off.

โ€œAnd then Iโ€™m working with JJ Doyle and Keith Rossiter at the moment in Wexford. JJ is a great coach and for me, on match days Keithโ€™s calm nature and ability to read a game is second to none.  

โ€œThose are guys, from a coaching point of view, Iโ€™d talk a good bit to about various things.โ€

mags-darcy-and-jj-doyle Wexford selector JJ Doyle with other members of the backroom team. James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

26. For you, whatโ€™s the most underrated quality good coaches must have?

โ€œIโ€™ve said this before about Davy and again itโ€™s to do with psychology, but having emotional intelligence and being able to cop things fairly quickly with the players. 

โ€œTen years ago, youโ€™d train Tuesday, Thursday and have a match Sunday. And once you can allow for being as good as you can be for those three segments things should happen. But you have to realise that whatever happens in a playerโ€™s personal life will impact on how they perform, regardless of how well theyโ€™re going in training.

โ€œSometimes if youโ€™re able to cop if thereโ€™s something not right with a guy โ€“ if heโ€™s down a little bit or whatever. Itโ€™s just that getting to know your players as intimately as possible to know that some days you might need to go, โ€˜Listen, whatโ€™s the story here?โ€™

โ€œAnd a guy will either spill if he wants to spill or if he doesnโ€™t you can say, โ€˜If youโ€™ve anything on your mind, come and talk to me.โ€™

โ€œJust knowing that side of your players you can go, โ€˜Something is off with this lad, heโ€™s always bubbly. Did something happen at work? Did he fall out with the girlfriend? Is college getting him down? Has he exams coming up and needs a bit of a break?โ€™  

โ€œThat sort of emotional intelligence. Weโ€™re all worried about drills, formations and tactics, but I think the real thing is getting to know your athletes and getting to know them as intimately as possible. To know that theyโ€™re human beings and to get the most out of them you really have to know them as well as possible.โ€

27. Are there any books, documentaries or podcasts youโ€™ve enjoyed lately?

โ€œTime is huge for me at the moment. Iโ€™ve started to read In Sunshine and in Shadow, that book about the cross-community boxing in the North. 

โ€œWhat I started doing this year with Wexford was downloading audiobooks and I the last one I listened to was The Barcelona Way, the one about Pep (Guardiola) and La Masia. It was decent, but I donโ€™t read as much as Iโ€™d like.

โ€œWhat I try to do is I watch documentaries, things like Last Chance U, QB1, Friday Night Lights and all that sort of stuff more than the books. I should read more but itโ€™s just when youโ€™re getting home from Wexford at 12.30am and youโ€™ve to be up at 6.30am the following morning and get the kids ready for school.

โ€œI will get around to reading books at some stage over the next couple of years and Iโ€™d like to, but at the moment not as much as Iโ€™d like to. Thereโ€™s a lot on.โ€

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davy-fitzgerald-with-selector-seoirse-bulfin Contrasting emotions on the sideline during the 2019 championship. James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

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28. Piece of advice on coaching

โ€œComing back to my dad, he always said, โ€˜You must remember youโ€™re dealing with people and individuals. They all have feelings and they all have lives outside of their sport. So you have to be very, very careful with how you deal with people.โ€™

โ€œAs a young coach growing up, things were very black and white with me. It was either my way or the highway. There was no grey area, there was no middle ground.

โ€œIโ€™ve only since realised thereโ€™s a hell of a lot of grey areas and there is a big middle ground. You need to have that somedays theyโ€™ll be in great form and other days they wonโ€™t.โ€ 

29. Quote

โ€˜Tis a very easy one: practice makes perfect. If you just keep the head down and keep working at something.

โ€œAnd Michael Jordan had a great one: โ€˜Iโ€™ve missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. Iโ€™ve lost almost 300 games. Twenty-six times, Iโ€™ve been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. Iโ€™ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.โ€™

โ€œDonโ€™t be afraid to fail is the big thing. Donโ€™t be afraid to fail because you learn far more in failure than you will in success.โ€

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    Oct 8th 2017, 7:56 PM

    I was in Lille that match, the fans role were probably the most important part.

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    Oct 8th 2017, 8:06 PM

    @Jordan Callaghan: hopefully the away end is loud tomorrow

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    Oct 8th 2017, 9:40 PM

    @Jordan Callaghan: and the fact that the Italians rolled over.

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    Oct 9th 2017, 9:03 AM

    @Peter Kiernan: ahhhh Peter donโ€™t be talking sense. Nothing like a heroic effort in the last must win game to get everyone pumped โ€ฆ. Letโ€™s forget how Oโ€™Neill was too afraid to try to win the games that could have had us already qualified.

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    Oct 8th 2017, 8:02 PM

    Different scenario somewhat compared to Lille. Wales also have to go for a win as well, whereas Italy were already qualified and focused on their next game

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    Oct 8th 2017, 7:52 PM

    CUIR IAD FAOI BRรš!
    PUT โ€˜EM UNDER PRESSURE!

    Doo de doo de doo de do. do do do!

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    Oct 8th 2017, 9:03 PM

    This Irish team have proven this campaign that they are far better away from home. I was in Vienna when we played well and won. This Welsh side are no better than us. Theyโ€™ve been outplayed on home turf more than once recently and got lucky. Hopefully their luck will finally run out tomorrow night.

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    Oct 8th 2017, 7:54 PM

    Are Wales putting out the B team???

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    Oct 8th 2017, 9:13 PM

    An Italian B team is better than a welsh A team.

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    Oct 8th 2017, 11:51 PM

    โ€ฆ.and Ireland calls on Martin Oโ€™Neill to pick a team that is attack minded and instruct them to have a real go at Wales. Itโ€™s all or nothing now. No point in playing defensive, getting a 0-0 draw and then regretting the one or two chances that got away. I donโ€™t want to see the word โ€œbraveโ€ used to describe Ireland if we fail tomorrow.

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    Oct 8th 2017, 9:20 PM

    Well let them play like they did in Lilleโ€ฆ not just long ball boring stuff, give it a proper go COYBIG

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    Oct 8th 2017, 11:06 PM

    @Dermo: well said Dermo

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    Oct 9th 2017, 12:08 AM

    Is it true that Oโ€™Neill is Trapattoni in disguise? He refuses to allow his team use their own initiative when it really matters.

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