THE STATS BESIDE Garry Ringrose’s name didn’t make for pretty reading.
Tackles: 4
Missed Tackles: 3
That return may have prompted more attention had it occurred during a defeat, but Ringrose could be thankful that it came during a 43-16 thrashing of Northampton Saints.
The problem is, it isn’t the first time where Ringrose’s missed tackle count has been high.
The attacking side of his game has long been lauded, with the comparisons to Brian O’Driscoll arriving thick and fast when he first burst into the Leinster senior team, but there has often been an element of doubt surrounding his defensive abilities.
He has put in plenty of big defensive efforts over the years, but every now and then you get a game like Northampton last weekend.
However, the Leinster centre will be the first to tell you that the stats don’t always tell the full story.
“Yeah it is a tricky one. It depends on what area of the park [it happens],” Ringrose says.
“Some of my missed tackles on the weekend weren’t good missed tackles. In certain areas if you can bring outside pressure and force attackers back in to where there is a bit more clutter it can potentially be… it can go down as a missed tackle from a winger or a centre or a backrow if he is out on the edge but ultimately it benefits the team. There are instances like that where they might go down as missed tackles but actually pay off.”
And it wasn’t just the tackles he didn’t make which will have played on his mind over the last few days. While he ended up on his back in the lead-up to Northampton’s opening try, and the sight of Ashee Tuala and Teimana Harrison running though him won’t have made for comfortable viewing during the video review, Ringrose was also yellow-carded for a tip tackle on out-half Dan Biggar during the second half at Franklin’s Gardens.
“I think it’s [defence] always a work-on for me. Even Saturday, it was evident. I learned a few tough lessons,” he admits.
“Certainly off the first play when (Rory) Hutchinson put it across my face and then I got my head caught on the wrong side. I was arguably just a little bit narrow close to Robbie (Henshaw). But obviously James (Lowe) did well to recover and cover my back a bit, which happens quite a lot with the wingers adapting. So it was good that he was switched on and was able to cover.
“It’s probably what happens next in terms of, if I was in there, I would probably return to the wrong side. I continued open and then they ultimately got us two or three phases later.
“I could be a bit smarter as to what happens next after missing the tackle.
“And then obviously there was the play off the lineout, (Matt) Proctor went through. So again, these are just lessons I have kind of learned.
“It does happen sometimes where I make the read out the back and they might play a guy out the back, and it looks like I have done well, but I might know in my head that if they played the front door, they would have exposed my inside shoulder.
“Even when you do a successful defensive read, there are still always learning opportunities. It’s just a bit more obvious when they make a line break.”
Ringrose will certainly be out to prove a point this weekend, as will the visitors, who will be keen to make amends for that 27 point tanking.
The Saints don’t have to look too far back for inspiration. In December of the 2013/14 European campaign, Leinster had 33 points to spare at Franklin’s Gardens but suffered an 18-9 defeat at the Aviva Stadium seven days later.
“A few [of the current squad] were involved [in the 2013 game] and a few weren’t. It was referenced that it happened, different personnel and a lot has changed in six years but it was definitely referenced and a reminder of the challenge that has to be faced this weekend,” Ringrose continues.
“It’s part of the challenge. They will definitely want to react. A team of their quality. They won’t ever want to lose twice in-a-row.
“They will be coming to the Aviva to win. It’s our job to do the same thing. We are playing at home this week, but the motivation is still to win no matter what.
“I just think there is no shortage of motivation because we know how good they are and how the scoreboard flatters us a bit [last week] and knowing that they will improve and be better with the personnel that they have, and also how well coached they are.
“Also, the lessons we did learn in getting the five points but also realising that they exposed us a couple of times, like the times I just talked about. Everyone had elements of the game that they will look into and try and be better on across the board from 1 to 23.
“We reviewed it today, we are under no illusions about where we are or where we need to get to.”
If Leinster do improve on last week’s showing, then there will be no fear of a 2013 repeat.
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Ringrose is an outstanding defender. End of.
@Tase Jansey: I wouldn’t put him in that bracket just yet (outstanding defender) he’s an outstanding all round player but his defence/tackling are the weakest part of his game when you consider someone like sexton who’s of a similar stature he’s a much better defender/tackler but he’s got youth on his side and I’m sure he’ll improve his defensive qualities in time
@Tase Jansey: when he’s in position he’s a capable defender.
@William Mills: Hi William. But 10 and 13 are completely different positions to defend so you can’t do a like for like comparison. 13 is much harder to defend. Ringrose brings really good line speed and 9 times out of 10 makes the right call when he shoots up in my opinion. Also his tackling technique is superb in my opinion, so I’d have to, respectfully of course, disagree with you there. Would obviously like to see more ‘Hollywood’ big massive hits but they’re not a good barometer of being a good tackler or not. Payne was a supreme defender at 13, and obv BOD was too. I think Ringrose is in a similar category of being as intelligent as both of those. Hopefully his defence can continue to improve like them too.
@William Mills: Sexton is generally defending a lot less space so its much easier to effect your tackles. Ringrose def has never been the best but he has gas which gets him out of a lot of trouble. He can be very good when assessing when the other team have numbers and he shoots up to take man and ball, he knows if he misses its a likely try but if he doesn’t go for it its an almost certain try anyway. 13 not easiest position to play certainly defensively
@William Mills: you are surely joking!!!!? Slot Johnny in at no.13 the hardest defensive position and see how he performs.
Ringrose IS an excellent defensive player and tackler.
@Billy Leahy: was referring more to his one on one tackling skills he does seem to get bounced off more than the other backs I agree his reading of attacking play’s spacing & line speed are all excellent he just sometimes doesn’t stick in the one on one situations where it’s not about making a good defensive read or line speed it’s just about stopping the guy running straight at you
@Tase Jansey: Agee totally with the difference in defending 10 & 13 but my concern is not with his defensive reads or line speed or spacing he’s normally spot on a very intelligent defender who reads the game very well it’s just his ability to stop a guy running straight at him when it’s a one on one that would be the weakest point for me
He’s not wrong yeno. From playing the game at 13 or sometimes 15 you can push the attack out or even half arse the tackle but force an error
@Ollie Watson: Yes I heard Brian O’Driscoll explaining that in most cases they are “good” tackles he is adjudged to have missed.
Stats are a funny thing, single stats can’t be relied solely on to determine how good a game an individual had. My favourite stat of the weekend was mike Haley’s – 0 tackles made and 0 tackles missed and had an absolute boss of a game.
I saw an analyst yesterday use Ronan Kelleher as an example – one of his carry’s was for 5m and he beat 2 defenders but knocked the ball on and turned over possession. On paper it looks great – 2DB and 5m carry but the net result was a huge negative.
I wouldn’t subscribe to the theory that there’s such a thing as a good missed tackle, no player goes out to miss them, but there are certainly better outcomes than others. As for ringrose tackling – he was against proctor and he looked to be worried about henshaw inside him, wouldn’t think it’s an issue.
Did see one tackle where the player bounced ringer like a rag doll. His size is a big problem for him. Unfortunately us paddies don’t have the bulk of some of the other nations. Not much we can do about that.
Funny timing for the article considering his missed tackles this weekend were bad missed tackles. His point is correct though. There’s nothing more useless than stats without context
@Eddie Hekenui: nothing funny about it, it’s an Indo article after all.