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Peter Stringer: England's pool stage elimination puts Italy performance into perspective

Our columnist Peter Stringer says despite the performance, it’s job done so far.

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I DON’T THINK any players will be jumping for joy after Ireland’s win at the Olympic Stadium today, but having seen what happened England in the last seven days, they’ll soon get the perspective they need.

I’ll be back in England tomorrow where a World Cup exit will still be raw, and when the Irish players weigh it all up, they’ll soon be able to put it behind them.

They’re through to the quarter-final with a game to go in the pool, and that’s exactly where they planned to be when they met up in camp during the summer.

You only had to look at the English guys last night, the hopes of a nation gone in 80 minutes. Granted Ireland have had an easier pool, but they’ll watch the tape and analyse it and it’ll almost be therapeutic for them.

Every one of those guys has played a game like this before when things didn’t go right and they know how to react. It’s all part of being a professional.

You could see it with Joe Schmidt, Johnny Sexton, Iain Henderson and anyone who did an interview after the game that they were frustrated and disappointed with the performance. Going into the French game they wanted to be hitting their peak and scoring a few tries, and they they didn’t look threatening enough to the Italian defensive line

Sean O'Brien James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

The speed of the breakdown really disrupted Ireland, and I know exactly the frustration that Conor Murray was experiencing.

The difference between a three second ruck and a six second ruck is enormous, and when you have bodies pulling and dragging at you when you’re trying to fish a ball from a ruck, it can effect your all-round game.

When you’ve got a backrow like Italy’s, they don’t allow you to have go-forward ball. You’re the guy that everybody expects to get it away, but you have an Italian guy stalling it, and then the runners outside you have to stall their runs, and it all gathers together and disrupts the whole gameplan.

But as the game went on and guys realised we weren’t getting any change out of playing wide, we went back to the structured kicking game.

When it became clear this game wasn’t going to be won by 20 points, they just started playing to win. Johnny and Conor started putting up more kicks and retaining ball.

It’s frustrating, because when you’ve been training a lot of what you do is unopposed, certainly in the latter stages of the week. You plan for these three second rucks, and everybody plans their timing off that.

We saw it last night with David Pocock; what a disruptive backrow can do to the whole team. It knocks everybody’s timing off and that creeps through the whole team – from the pods outside the scrum-half right out to the wingers.

The positive is that they guys always have that plan B of a good kicking game, but if you’re going to score tries against France, and challenge sides like Argentina or New Zealand further in the competition, you’re going to have to be able to create more.

Robbie Henshaw and Jonathan Sexton at the final whistle James Crombie / INPHO James Crombie / INPHO / INPHO

Confidence-wise with such a big game against France, this performance won’t have helped things, purely from the momentum lost. Italy didn’t show much, but they set up their game well. Because Ireland will have had a concrete gameplan, the confidence will have been dented, but Joe Schmidt isn’t the kind of coach to focus in on the small picture. Once they see the video and do the analysis it always becomes clear.

I expect Rob Kearney and Jared Payne will play against France if fit, and the only other changes I could see may be on the wings. I think Keith Earls will move back out wide, be it for Tommy or Dave Kearney. Joe Schmidt isn’t the kind of coach to cut apart a team because of performance like that.

At the start of the competition and coming from the Six Nations France looked in disarray, and since the tournament started they’ve slowly been building and building.

The challenge of beating them might seem that bit tougher than it did this time yesterday, but with three wins out of three, it’s job done so far.

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 4:57 PM

    I just don’t get this. All the South Africans were back playing for their clubs the week after playing for their country. Cian Prendergast, the Connacht captain mind, didn’t feature at all. Conor Murray the same in Munster. Just wondering if our Irish panel of 45 players are a bit precious ?

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 6:25 PM

    @Pat Cooney: Ireland played a 4 games. South Africa only had to play 3. So a lot of there players had all of last week off and they can also afford to do as they have a lot better strength in depth than us having used something like 52 players in total in the last couple of months. Where as Bealham and Hansen started in every game this Autumn Int.

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 6:47 PM

    @Harry O’ Callaghan: on the other hand though, South Africa were also coming off the Rugby Championship.

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 6:59 PM

    @teuO6nLS: No, they used a lot of new players throughout that tournament and it was spaced out. We haven’t used anywhere close to 52 players this year and last year. They have the luxury of resting their big game players like Etzebeth, Kolisi, Pollard, Kriel, Kolbe, Le Roux because they have tow or three players practically as good in that position. We don’t unfortunately. We rely on keeping momentum with a core player group of around 25. Prendergast should definitely play for Connacht as he’s only played 15th a of rugby in the last 4 weeks. Bealham, Aki and Hansen definitely deserve a rest especially Bealham as his mental fatigue was obviously showing when he knocked the ball on 3 times and gave away a penalty in the opening quarter against Australia.

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 8:57 PM

    @Pat Cooney: They weren’t released back to their clubs. At least they’ve got plenty of rugby under their belts. Izzy is about to turn 25, has the grand total of 11 starts for Ulster and was also sat on his hole.

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 4:17 PM

    Makes sense, i think the IRFU would probably want to rest other players like Doris, VDF and Porter

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    Dec 3rd 2024, 4:22 PM

    @Owen ODonoghue: it’ll be left up to the clubs. Play them now but rest them over Xmas or rest them now but play them over Xmas. It’s been like that the past two years that they have to get two consecutive weeks off

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