MUNSTER’S VIDEO ANALYSIS this week will have focused on their own recent performances, as well as the strengths and potential weaknesses of tomorrow’s Champions Cup opponents, Clermont.
Almost as importantly, a third strand to their pre-match study will have centred around the referee of the Thomond Park fixture, Englishman Wayne Barnes.
Every team at the top level of the game goes through this process of identifying the elements that make up the key match official. A crucial penalty could be the difference between winning and losing, after all.
Is this referee lenient in terms of side entry at the ruck? Does he allow a physical contest for the ball in the air? How far can we push the offside line? Will he reward the jackal at the breakdown?
Earlier this season, Munster struggled to get to grips with the officiating of Laurent Cardona after he replaced the injured Mathieu Raynal in the first half of their Pool 1 clash with Sale.
Cardona heavily favoured the attacking team at the breakdown, negating Munster’s defensive strength in that area until they adjusted their approach in the second half. The pre-match analysis of Raynal that week ultimately proved to be a waste.
Not that the process is not important to go through. Munster fullback Felix Jones is keen for his province to keep up with the vital refereeing trends.
“The game is moving and changing so fast,” says Jones. “Week to week, things could be changing just due to the referee and what his trends or hot penalties are. Every couple of weeks there could be a new trend in the game that becomes massive.
“If you have a different ref each week, his interpretation of the breakdown could be slightly different and you might have to adhere to that. Essentially, your systems or philosophies of how your team plays the game should be able to deal with it, but I think things change. They’re always moving.”
Jones says analysis of referees is commonplace in the professional game, and highly “detailed.” That works both ways, as referees analyse fixtures involving themselves and their colleagues.
It’s fairly in depth,” says Jones. “You want to know what referees are focusing on, cluing into. Obviously the referees are all meeting; they have conversations about what’s the best way to keep the game flowing for positive rugby.”
Speaking of trends in the game, Jones is a central figure in one of the key tactical features of the modern game. Ireland showed this month how effective a gameplan involving high amounts of contestable kicking can be, provided the chase is finely tuned.
“It’s a skill that any back three player now has to be able to do,” says Jones of the kick chase. “Once a couple of phases go, it’s no longer about simply being a fullback or a winger. As a unit, the back three has to be able to work and do a lot of things.
“Guys have their own individual skills, but they’re going to need to have a basic level of skills that are going to suit them, be it backfield cover or competing in the air.”
Leinster have kicked heavily in recent times, while Munster have had a strong focus on competing for the contestable kicks of Conor Murray in their higher-profile games this season.
While Jones points out that there are major differences between Ireland and Munster’s game plans – with both also fluid depending on the opposition – he does agree that kicking is a prominent shared feature.
I know what you mean in terms of how much teams are kicking. The aerial game is massive now, massive within Ireland. You look at Ulster in the last few years, and Leinster, and how good they’ve been at it. It is big.”
Murray, Ian Keatley and Jones himself will look to come out on top of that area against Clermont, limiting the opportunities for the likes of Napolioni Nalaga, Wesley Fofana and Nick Abendanon to thrive in broken play.
All the while, Munster will be keeping a close eye on referee Barnes, with their detailed analysis fresh in mind.
If a lot of club game referees weren’t small fat middle aged men who haven’t performed well as a ref since the early 1980′s… then respect would come naturally.
Who would become a referee so?
I remember playin a game where the ref just walked between the 2 65s. He was a sight to see with his paddy cap an all
If referees were highly trained martial artists allowed to punch any player who abused or questioned his decisions, there would be a radical change in behaviour towards refs.
Its imbeciles like you Darragh, is why we have the problem!
The key is consistency really. If referees said “no backchat at all”, we would accept it. That’s as long as all referees took the same line with players in ALL games, no exceptions.
In general, I think that would be a great idea. What is the point in remonstrating with an official after he has made his decision?
As an ex soccer referee, players liked me. Becuse most referees would yellow card players for simply questioning them. I always explained my decisions to players..totally diffused situations
I think it might be better if there was a player in the forwards and backs allowed to ask the ref to explain his decision(they’d have to be level headed and respected players). Players need to know why they’re been blown up
Cormac. Its why I did it. I was a player and very few showed common sense.
If i hear the whistle on the pitch, straight away i’m thinking of the next ball, the last thing i want to do,is get an explanation of the referee, or abuse him .
Players need to be educated to respect the referees, We need zero tolerance, Just take one look at our rugby counterparts to realise we have a fundamental problem.
If i was a Gealic or soccer referee, Id be like Pierluigi Collina, If you so much as cursed at me you’d be booked, if it happens again you’re off! If you want to get really abusive with me , id grab you by the scruff of the neck and challenge you to a fight after the game, where i’d batter you in front of your team!
The problem with respect is it must go both ways. A good referee will in general get respect and not be questioned by players. But in gaa especially in club games many of the refs are of very poor quality. They are unfit, make poor decisions consistently and often have linesmen and umpires who don’t do their jobs with regard to off the ball incidents etc.
Striking with the fist is supposed to be a red card offence but in reality more often than not is not consistently enforced which leads to players seeking to get revenge knowing it will likely only be a yellow.
Unfortunately you have lots of former players who would make great refs but won’t do it because of the abuse they get.
For the crap refrees put up with it is a wonder there is actually anyone willing to do it.
Refreeing is a thankless job
I admire his candidness in a way, but everyone would like to tell someone to “F off”
“Not everyone” I meant the opposite.
Why does the referee have to explain his decisions? Everyone knows the old addage of “he’s not going to change his mind”, yet players persist in wanting a referee to explain everything to “gain respect”.Get on with it, and if you still have a grievance, give it 15mins after the match when everyone is calmer and if it’s still life and death important to find out why he gave a free, maybe then is the right time to ask.
Players try to make refs think they were wrong in the decision against them in the hope of maybe influencing the refs next decision in their favour. Sometimes it works.
If a ref told a player to f**k off or told a player he was a useless so & so their would be outrcry yet refs regularly get such abuse in club games for very little reward . Someone has to ref a game & the ref is the soft target .if players & mentors analyise their own performance they might find the real reason their team loses .
Id like to tell Eugene to fcuk off..and I will. ..fcuk off Eugene
It might also be noted that before rugby referees make an important decision such as a yellow card, most of the time they revert to the TMO. Added to this a lot of a rugby match is played at not much faster than walking pace, where the referee is nearly always right up with the play and spends his time in the players ears practically coaching them on what not to do or he will penalise them!
Respect earns respect. If a player told a ref to F off he would get a straight red however if a ref heard one player telling another player to F off there would be no punishment. So how is a player to respect a ref?. also refs in gaa are answerable to no-one. If a player makes a mistake he looses his place, if a manager makes a mistake he is answerable to the county board.
James. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.
Yea good argument Derek. You seem to be too afraid to express your own opinion yet you have no problem putting other ppl opinions down. I have played with a lot of different refs in lots of different sports and officiated myself I have a pretty good grasp of what makes a good and bad ref.
What is wrong with telling another player to f off. What is wrong with giving him a good hard shoulder in a tackle to put some manners on him or a box if need be.
Gaelic is a tough sport, no one wants to change that. You can play hard but still have respect and give respect.
If you tell a Ref. to F. off, it has to be a Red card, if a player makes a habit of it then they shouldn’t be playing for the team. No one wants to see that kind of rubbish at a game.
Box an opponent to put manners on him? Sure why don’t you knife him just to make sure killian. Do you want to know the sporting way to do it,rather than the cowardly way? Win every ball in a fair way be it hit him with a fair shoulder or beat him in a sprint. I’m guessing you a slow unintelligent coward if you have to hit you opponent a box to gain an advantage
James.
Are you drunk?
GAA is a tough sport, plenty of knocks but the whole point it that people play hard and have respect for each other.
That is something that is missing in Soccer where diving and back chatting the Ref. are very serious problems and indications of the type of people that play it, it should not be tolerated in other disciplines.
“Indications of the type of people that play it”, the most popular sport in the world? A wee bit of a generalisation there
What an absolutely ridiculous statement in his last paragraph! The problem will never disappear…
It should be limited as much as possible.
When you look at the attitude that Soccer players give Refs in the Premiership it is bound to set a bad example.
Other disciplines need to show that acting the diva is not tolerated.
McGee’s comments sum up the entire problem. When the man appointed to try and change things has such a ridiculous attitude then it doesn’t augur well for the prospect of change. He seems to think that while it’s only natural to abuse refs, it doesn’t look good so we should try and tone it down.
Funnily Eugene we wouldn’t all like to tell the ref to f**k off. Most sensible people realise that they are giving their time like everyone else and that there would be no games without them.
Don’t call the ref a muppet at least not in Munster.Could cost you a serious suspension!