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‘Ireland are up there with France as favourites to win a World Cup’

Martin Bayfield’s love affair with Ireland started 30 years ago – and a year out from the World Cup, the former England star reckons Andy Farrell’s team could win it.

IT STARTS with his name on a list. Queen Elizabeth’s was there too, also Margaret Thatcher’s. The name on top was John Major’s, the man calling the shots at No10 Downing Street. Yet on this day in 1993, it was a different No10 that Martin Bayfield was thinking more about, the new Irish outhalf, Eric Elwood.

The previous week he’d seen Elwood dictate the terms and conditions of Ireland’s Five Nations win over Wales and found something about this player, this team, this country deeply appealing.

Nothing was going to dissuade him from thinking that way, not even the security official who pulled him aside before he boarded the plane from Heathrow to Dublin to tell him he would be assigned an armed guard from the moment he landed in Dublin. Bayfield didn’t blink when told the IRA had a list of the top 200 members of the British Establishment they considered legitimate targets.

As an international rugby player – and a serving policeman – he was one of those targets, grouped with members of the Royal Family and Conservative Government. The only difference was neither Queen Elizabeth nor Major were needed by England for the 1993 Five Nations championship. But PC Bayfield was.

“If there were 200 on the list, then I was number 200,” the former England lock says now, three decades later.

“You see, I never felt any threat. There were no messages or random phonecalls. We just got on with things in blissful ignorance. If there was something going on, we weren’t aware of it. All we knew was that there was someone in the background protecting us. They were at the game too.

“That was at least until the post-game function when our armed guards got absolutely shit-faced. All I can say is that seeing your security detail drunk in charge of a firearm was not a reassuring sight.”

The only ambush that happened that spring day in 1993 was at Lansdowne Road. England, World Cup finalists in 1991, grand slam winners in ’91 and ’92, were expected to hammer Ireland because, well, that’s what everyone did back then.

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Instead, everything came good, Mick Galwey scoring a memorable try, one that secured him a ticket with the Lions to New Zealand.

Nick Popplewell was on that tour, too.

And.

That.

Was.

It.

With just two of the 30-man squad from Ireland, it was little wonder that team were dubbed the British Lions. “Eh, lads, it is British and Irish,” Popplewell constantly reminded them, so much so that he got bumper stickers made up and distributed to the rest of the squad, Bayfield being one of them.

“Pops was brilliant, a quality player, and hated the fact we adopted him as an honorary Englishman on that tour,” Bayfield says.

“He put us right. Until 1993, on this side of the pond anyway, people referred to the team as British Lions. That was all I heard as a kid, all I’d ever read. So, Pops was the guy who really drove the message home. ‘We aren’t British Lions, we’re British and Irish’. He got it right, we had it wrong and had it wrong for so long.”

They weren’t the only ones who needed guidance. Way back then, the IRFU lacked the vision to get a competitive team on the park. Bayfield may have lost to them twice out of four meetings but that was an unusual occurrence because Ireland, in that decade, were a shambolic outfit.

Put it this way, no Scot, Frenchman, Kiwi, Wallaby, Springbok, Namibian or Samoan ever lost a Test to an Irish team in that decade.

“And I find that strange because Ireland had some bloody good players,” Bayfield says. “Some of them – Paddy Johns in particular – should have been on that 1993 Lions tour. Now I’m glad Paddy didn’t go because I probably wouldn’t have played in the Tests if he had.

“But Paddy is the sort of guy who would have been brilliant in New Zealand, so too Peter Clohessy. It’s wrong they weren’t there. New Zealand is a bloody hard place to go to. You need big players, big personalities to win there.”

That’s why he watched with deep admiration as Johnny Sexton led Ireland to glory over the All Blacks this summer, knowing the difficulties that have to be overcome to win in Dunedin and Wellington. “It didn’t surprise me,” he says.

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You don’t expect him to think this way, not when you contextualise his background, a player from the 90s, an era when Ireland were the weakest Tier1 nation in world rugby, deprived of a plan either on the field or off it.

Now look at them. Grand Slam winners in 2009 and 2018, they’ve repeatedly broken new ground, winning away in Paris, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand having gone decades (France and Australia) or an entirety (Springboks and All Blacks) without a sniff of success over those teams on the road.

“I wouldn’t go so far as to say it was inevitable that Ireland would come good because you need good coaches and structures for it to work,” says Bayfield. “But when you look at the professional game now, it’s practically tailor made to suit Ireland more than anyone. Without Ireland realising it or planning for it, they have got the perfect structure to succeed.

“Think about it. Wales had to invent the regions, Scotland their Super Districts. Okay, England didn’t have to identify anything, as the clubs were already in existence, but there is neither rhyme nor reason as to where they are located.

“Since professionalism, some clubs have disappeared, your West Hartlepools, Coventrys, Richmonds. Worcester are in trouble now. But Leinster, Munster, Connacht, Ulster, they will never go bust.

“Irish rugby didn’t have to invent any teams, didn’t have to come up with any names. The teams were there. You had the rivalries. The system feeds players into those provinces, the academies function well.

“Add in some smart coaching appointments you’ve made at key times – Michael Cheika, Joe Schmidt, Leo Cullen and Stuart Lancaster with Leinster – (Warren) Gatland, (Eddie) O’Sullivan, (Declan) Kidney, Schmidt and Andy Farrell with Ireland.  

“Ireland to me in the 2000s are like England in the late 80s in that they woke up and decided to get their act together.

“The one thing they’ve never done, of course, is get beyond a World Cup quarter-final, which is kind of staggering.

“That can change. They have to be up there with France as favourites to win a World Cup which is a tag no one in Ireland may want.”

Not only does no one in Ireland want that label, no one believes we deserve it. Hyped up in 2007, 2011, 2015 and especially in 2019, they underperformed. So why should 2023 be any different?

“What impresses me most about Andy Farrell’s set-up is the fact there has been no drop off from the Joe Schmidt era,” says Bayfield. “A lot of spectators wondered what he would be like as a head coach? Well, the answer is pretty bloody good.

“So, that’s my starting point. Now look at their results over the last 18 months. They’ve played New Zealand four times, won three. They’ve played England twice, won twice. They’ve lost just two out of 16 matches. They put 60 points on Japan, 50 on Argentina, 32 on England. They beat Scotland by Wales by over 20 points.

“To be able to win on tour is another box ticked. France, Ireland, New Zealand and South Africa are the top four teams for me. Two big teams will be gone by the quarters and while Ireland have some psychological hurdles to overcome, look at the stats. Why shouldn’t they be one of the favourites? The unexpected can happen.”

He only has to reflect on his own life to know that.

As a kid out of school, he knew he wanted to pursue two careers, one as a policeman; the other as a rugby player. The fact rugby was amateur suited him. Turning professional did not.

Suddenly, his status dipped. As a policeman, there was a routine to his week; a shared camaraderie in the force; an unspoken respect for what he did. “People say being a professional sportsman is a dream job but I didn’t like it. I was used to fitting rugby in around life as a police officer. When I left the force, I missed my colleagues, my friends. I found it disconcerting, destabilising and it threw me. I found rugby boring. The games were fine but the training was dull.”

In time he’d reinvent himself, become an actor, work in three Harry Potter films and become a broadcaster and now, as of last week, a published author. Ireland, he says, can become world champions.

A tall story?

We’ll find out a year from now.  

  • Martin Bayfield, A Very Tall Story, written with Gavin Mairs, publisher Simon & Schuster UK, is available in book stores. 
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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:40 PM

    no Conway is the man. fast can tackle & safe hands under a high ball

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:02 PM

    @john fleming: shtop.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:57 PM

    @john fleming: Ha ha ha

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:14 PM

    He’s too dangerous a finisher to take off the wing. I’d like to see Stockdale-Lowe-Larmour next season

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:22 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: Lowe is qualified?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:24 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: that would be a ridiculous backline

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:35 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: oh Jesus Christ !!!!

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:54 PM

    @Bluepoolroad: after the world cup

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:25 PM

    I think it’s November 2020 before he qualifies

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:43 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: Keith Earls won’t be pushed out that easily.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:01 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: Jesus did earl’s steal your wife or something

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:52 PM

    @Padraic Burke: Earls isn’t half the player that Lowe is.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:53 PM

    Earl’s is much older and in a years time it is unlikely that he will still be the best winger. If he is then fair play to him. I hope I’m proven wrong!

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:57 PM

    @Baz Dunne: your right. He’s twice the player.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 1:06 AM

    @Anthony:

    For Leinster the qualification of Jamison Gibson-Park at the end of 2019 will mean J Lowe should become a regular because that 2 into 3 problem will be gone. But it will not be till next year that he could qualifie (if he wants to go for a place in the Ireland setup)

    A fine player but Earls is the man !!

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    Apr 19th 2019, 3:50 AM

    @Baz Dunne: And you’re clearly not half the expert you think you are.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:16 AM

    @Bluepoolroad: yes Lowe can play I. Next 6nations I think … has to be in the mix as does Adam Byrne I think if he keeps progressing post the Kearney, Earls era

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:51 PM

    Is there anything to be said for Simon Zebo?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:58 PM

    @southside: No

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:11 PM

    @southside: if he comes back then absolutely

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:26 PM

    @Rudiger McMonihan: Zebo shouldn’t have to come back to qualify. He is 1/2 French and has chosen to experience that culture. Should that restrict his eligibility?? NO
    Bad example but Imagine telling Irish soccer players plying their trade in England you need to play in the league of Ireland.
    Zebo record try scorer for Munster
    Was on shortlist in his 1 season for Top 14 player of the year. Of course he should be considered.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:29 PM

    @southside: yeah get lost Simon

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:04 PM

    @T Meister: yes it most certainly should restrict it. We need to protect our provincial game because at the moment it’s working. Look at how bad the French team are because they have no control over french club players

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:53 PM

    @T Meister: I can’t believe we’re STILL having the Zebo conversation.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 12:05 AM

    @Anthony:
    So should Sexton have been dropped too?

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    Apr 19th 2019, 1:11 AM

    @The Great Unwashed:

    Different times my friend and all gone over many many times .

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:25 AM

    @Anthony: FREEDOM of choice for ALL.
    Best players who qualify for this country should be considered. Provinces should stand on their own merits encourage Irish players to stay but not the detriment of the National Side being able to choose The Best 15.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:51 AM

    @Martin Quinn:
    Not different times at all. The ‘rule’ applied to players before Sexton and after Sexton, so why didn’t it apply to Sexton himself?
    You can’t have a policy and then choose to disregard it when it’s inconvenient – either it’s the policy or it isn’t.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:58 AM

    @The Great Unwashed: maybe you should change your name to the great uneducated, this was enforced because of sexton.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 2:07 PM

    @Chris Mc:
    What does that even mean? The policy was there long before Sexton moved to Racing, so why wasn’t it applied to him as it was applied to other players who moved overseas?

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    Apr 19th 2019, 3:00 PM

    @The Great Unwashed: I know the reason as you certainly do by the question you asked and for THIS reply to be published this is all I can say.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:24 PM

    No.
    His a winger.
    Stick to players playing in there natural position. Instead of fannying about.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:18 PM

    @Paddy Waggon: played u20 at full back and pretty impressive at that

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:06 PM

    @Kevin Donnelly: why was he moved to the wing so .

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:23 PM

    @Paddy Waggon: To get game time in a position which is not as challenging for a young inexperienced player. He will be Ulster’s 15 for years to come imo

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:39 PM

    Even though his defence has improved over the past 12 months, it remains the weakest part of his game. At 15 he could be exposed by all of the open ground as opposed to being able to use the touchline as an extra defender. It could improve for pro14 level but I don’t think he could manage international.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 11:12 PM

    @Declan Snow: It’s his defensive positioning and reads that have let him down, rather than his tackle technique. At 15 he’ll only really be needed to shut someone down when they break the line and he has the speed to do it. Would really like to see him there.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:57 PM

    The thoughts of a Stockdale, Lowe, Larmour back 3 going into the next world cup cycle is mouth watering!

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:21 PM

    I’d prefer to see Larmour getting some serious game time back there!

    He needs to be given a few games on the run

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:24 PM

    @Aaron Tynan: In what aspect(s) of his game is Jordan better than Jacob?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:39 PM

    @Bluepoolroad: actually grounding the ball for one

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:20 PM

    @John Keenan: savage

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:28 PM

    @John Keenan: that was harsh now in fairness.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:39 PM

    @Stephen Foster: funny tho

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    Apr 19th 2019, 12:06 AM

    @Bluepoolroad:
    Knowing when to pass.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 1:14 AM

    I think everyone is forgetting about Addison. I think he will have a say in that back 3 over the next 4 – 8 years.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:11 PM

    Stockdale can’t / won’t pass.
    You need a 15 that can pass.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:44 PM

    @Bungee Aky: so Rob Lyttle got the ball by telepathy on Friday night?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:03 PM

    @Ian Frizzell: you said it

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:11 PM

    @Bungee Aky: Rob “Straightens the line” Kearney never saw a ball he couldnt run into the first chaser with

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:20 PM

    @Bungee Aky: Kearney is knowing for his passing rather than his running into contact ;-)

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    Apr 19th 2019, 3:53 AM

    @Bungee Aky: also a dodgy defender

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    Apr 19th 2019, 3:54 AM

    @Kevin Donnelly: In what alternate universe is that true?

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    Apr 18th 2019, 8:43 PM

    I never feel confident that he will catch a high contested ball in game.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:48 PM

    The question is, who will be fb come world cup

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:07 PM

    Henshaw is our best natural fullback, I hope Joe sticks with him in the warm ups.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:44 PM

    @Rochelle: showed against england he has almost no positional sense to defend the chip over the top. If he isnt playing 15 for leinster (he wont be) its a non runner for Ire

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    Apr 18th 2019, 10:58 PM

    @Rochelle: He is in his hoop

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    Apr 18th 2019, 11:03 PM

    @Kazoochka: bovine excrement! He covered as well as anyone would have with that defensive set up. Even with the tweaks that followed RK with all his experience was caught several times v Italy. Give players that much time to look up and pick and choose their kicks and with nobody else dropping into the backfield the best 15 in the world would have struggled. England just out gunned us tactically and broke our defence down, I wouldn’t go pointing the finger at any one player.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 10:01 AM

    @Kazoochka: both Earls and Stockdale made horrible calls in the game and expecting an full back to read those is a bit much.

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    Apr 18th 2019, 9:55 PM

    Larmour is prob next in line, he still has a lot of learning to do in my opinion. There are a lot of times in games where his decision making with ball in hand gets him (team) in trouble. No doubting his ability but sometimes he should just take the direct line of contact and get go forward rather than trying to jink statically around guys and then get pushed back a few meters

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    Apr 18th 2019, 7:19 PM

    Well itd be interesting. Hes a tall lad so fielding wouldnt be an issue. In terms of speed hes very quick as well. But is he too tqll that hes an easier target?

    Worth a try at least.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 9:26 AM

    I’d much rather keep him on the wing. It’s a pity Haley has taken the fullback position at Munster as I believe Conway is our best all rounded fullback in the country. While larmour and Addison have still to add to their game, I believe Conway has all the right attributes to make a top quality fullback at international level.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 10:03 AM

    @Anthony O Connell: Conway has never really claimed the Munster 15 shirt and always seems to be injured when the internationals come around. He’s no spring chicken either.

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    Apr 19th 2019, 11:23 AM

    You shut up.
    I’m Eoin McLove.
    I can do what I lie!

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