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Man United's West Ham win comes at a cost

Erik ten Hag says Lisandro Martinez’s knee injury ‘doesn’t look good’.

ERIK TEN HAG says Lisandro Martinez’s knee injury “doesn’t look good” and the concerned Manchester United boss is praying centre-back has avoided a “personal disaster”.

The 26-year-old looked crestfallen after being forced off on just his fourth appearance since returning from four months out following the reoccurrence of a foot issue.

Martinez was surrounded by concerned United team-mates in the second half after going down clutching his right knee having been landed on awkwardly by West Ham full-back Vladimir Coufal.

The Argentina international was able to continue for a short period, only to pull up again and eventually trudge down the touchline to supportive chants from the Old Trafford faithful.

Ten Hag is fearing the worst and says “we can only pray” that Martinez, who he signed from former club Ajax in 2022, has avoided serious injury.

“I can’t say (what the situation is) but it doesn’t look good, so there’s a big concern,” the United boss said after Sunday’s 3-0 win against the Hammers.

“But we have to wait for what is the diagnosis and then we can tell you more.

 “Of course, we do everything to get the right diagnosis and see what the damage is.

“He is very sad, very disappointed. We are all. We feel really with him.

“First of all, it’s a personal disaster when it’s really bad but let’s wait for what it is. But also for the team, it’s really bad because he definitely brings us a lot.”

Martinez’s injury was a body blow on an otherwise brilliant day in what has been a largely disappointing campaign for United.

Rasmus Hojlund lashed the side ahead on his 21st birthday before 19-year-old talent Alejandro Garnacho added a second-half brace.

The Argentina international celebrated his first goal by sitting on the advertising hoardings with fellow grinning young guns Hojlund and Kobbie Mainoo, 18.

“We now have a team that is in balance on the pitch, then we can play better,” Ten Hag said. “Also you see the progress is coming.

“We bought players in the summer for the future. We also made choices to give players who deserve it, to give opportunities in the first team as Garnacho and Mainoo.

“But Mainoo in the second game (of the pre-season tour) against (Real) Madrid, gets a real bad injury, then all the plans you have you have to adapt.

“Hojlund had a period, he came late in, young, but you see he is progressing.

“When there is a consistent team in his back with routines, they will serve him better and then you see a frontline who is in balance.

“It is a threat for every opponent and also you see they enjoy it, to play football.

“They enjoy giving opponents problems, they want to do it with togetherness and the picture of the three youngsters celebrating together covered a lot, I think.

“It’s not about one player, it’s about a team and that is what I have seen today.

“It looked like a team – 11 defending, 11 attacking. For me, it was enjoyable to watch.” 

That viewpoint was not shared by West Ham counterpart David Moyes, who felt his side perhaps even played better than when they beat United 2-0 at home in December.

“Yeah, I do (think the scoreline flattered United,” he said. “I look at my last couple of performances. I didn’t enjoy our draw against Bournemouth, I didn’t think we played well enough.

“I didn’t enjoy my point again Sheffield United but I probably enjoyed my team’s performance better. I didn’t enjoy the results.

“So, that’s why when you’re getting to a point and you’re not doing well you’ve just got to take it and move on.

“But I’m hoping the performance today we can build on, I thought we played much better today.

“I thought we made quite a few opportunities and we just didn’t quite have a shooting boots on to get us the chances.

“We beat Manchester United at the London Stadium and we may have played better today than we did at the London Stadium.”

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    Mute Cian Philpott
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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:04 PM

    Think it’s worth mentioning that Spain are currently European champions U21, U19, U17 and now the senior champions.

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:11 PM

    Holyyyyyyyyyy shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………………..

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:16 PM

    Speaks of the state of other countries football…massive disaster and fail.

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:57 PM

    Glad they don’t play hurling

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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:45 PM

    The beautiful game , played beautifully.

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    Mute Irish Patriot
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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:45 PM

    Well Done Spain.

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    Mute Anthony Arkins
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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:43 PM

    Congrats Miguel, a well deserved win for Spain,.

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    Mute Tom Dunne
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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:13 PM

    Where are the detractors now? Feel privileged you have seen just one of the greatest teams of all time if not the greatest. .As for the Liverpool team of 88 a good side but not in Spain’s class.

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    Mute Rodger O Waters
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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:57 PM

    Agree Tom the reds were far higher ☺

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    Mute jim ahh jim ahh jim
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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:19 PM

    What a great game of football, and the refs were good too

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    Mute Rodger O Waters
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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:45 PM

    The liverpool team of ’88 would have beaten them.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:14 AM

    Jesus people really do love Liverpool.

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:06 PM

    only team i would put with them is Brazil 1970.

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:57 PM

    delighted the Italians were crazy/brave enough to play that way as it afforded us all the opportunity to see an all time great team with some all time greats do the absolute business. magnificent, all of it, 4 goals in the euro final. we may never see the likes of it again. these guys are why i love football, and it is a beautiful game once more. viva espana!!!

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    Mute fizi_water
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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:52 PM

    It’s actually worrying there is 1 team in Europe that is so much above anybody else.
    I very much like in football spirit of competition and head to head rivalry. This final was just one team show and brutal execution on Italians. No matter how much I can admire Spanish football master class this game was IMHO boring, boring because of lack of real connection between teams, bit of spark, the competition, emotions..
    Also 4:0 in the final where two equal teams should meet is a lot, that should make all of them think what they’re doing playing football, England, France, Germany, Italy… those teams look like last decade amateurs next to today’s Spain. Hopefully this can change as I have no problem watching one team winning spree, but really can’t enjoy watching one team outclassing everyone else.

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    Mute Les Rock
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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:10 PM

    But in the long run it is a good thing. It forces other F.A to look at the way they run themselves, their methods and ways in which they nuture their young players.Therefore in the end football wins.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 12:29 AM

    We can only dream our FA will implement a proper player and management development system

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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:59 PM

    It’s a Barcelona thing , they might be the best ever if they had Messi.

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    Jul 1st 2012, 10:47 PM

    I really expected a closer match, switched off after Italy went to 10 men

    Very disappointing final contest to an overall excellent tournament

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 5:41 AM

    Not a football fan obviously…

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:25 PM

    It’s not even midnight yet and this already happened last night? Did I lost a day? ;)

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 12:14 AM

    I’m going to guess that he was at the game and with the time difference, he made the mistake.

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    Mute Miguel Delaney
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 12:59 AM

    I was indeed at the game, aye! To really stretch my defence it is intended for people reading after 12am… I suppose, ha! It’s 3am here. Spanish team just all left stadium. Sergio Ramos came through with the trophy at the end.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:13 AM

    Thanks for the updates Miguel, I’d say you will have a sore ceann in the morning

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:44 PM

    last night history was made, great team, hopefully they can continue from last night, have I stressed enough yet that it was last night.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 2:49 AM

    Without doubt da best team ever, even without their captain and their first choice striker they still walked it, world class players on bench didn’t even get a game

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 6:44 AM

    Why can’t TV pundits not admit that sometimes, just sometimes, teams come alone that are better than the past greats. It’s as if they feel admitting it, results in driving Pele and company a kick in the rox. Personally, this is the best all round team I have had the pleasure of witnessing past/present. New things CAN be better……..well except hangovers and monster munch!

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    Jul 1st 2012, 11:33 PM

    That headline is way off the mark if you’ve been watching it on bbc or ITV.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:00 AM

    He’s a bad writer is Mr. Miguel.

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    Mute Miguel Delaney
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:08 AM

    Had the privilege of watching almost every tournament match this Spanish team have played since Euro 2008 in the actual stadiums, including tonight. As such, wasn’t watching BBC or ITV and they’re way off the mark for me!

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    Mute Anthony Walsh
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:40 AM

    You can only argue that they are the greatest European team of all time. They have after all only won one World Cup. Only beating the best that South America has to offer only the once is not nearly enough to justify your claim as best of all time.

    Also, the European Championship only started in 1960, so previous European teams that won the World Cup never had the opportunity to win something else in between them.

    In short, it’s a ridiculous claim.

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    Mute Miguel Delaney
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 2:17 AM

    By all measurable criteria, they’re the greatest. That’s certainly fair to say.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 4:08 AM

    I wouldn’t call it a ridiculous claim Anthony,
    take a look back at their results from 2008 to today, what’s ridiculous is their record in competitive games:
    33 wins
    3 draws
    1 defeat
    http://www.soccerway.com/teams/spain/spain

    And if you still want to filter that down to the bigger occasion competitive games, well that’s 3 tournaments in a row (10 matches) where they’ve not even conceded a goal in the knock-out stages.

    As for the Euro Championships only starting in 1960, well the only European team to win the World Cup in the previous two decades to that was West Germany in 1954, a shock result against the best team in Europe at the time, Puskas’ Hungary.

    I think the only valid debate would be the Brazil team of 1970 but they didn’t do much in any of the years either side of that tournament. This Spanish team certainly have either side of their World Cup in 2010

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 4:16 AM

    If there was no such thing as time there would be ppl out there who’d say Ronnie Delaney was the greatest miler or Carl Lewis the greatest 100mtrs of all time. The greatest is the one who holds the present record. When it comes to football the Brazil of ’70 wouldn’t be in the same class as that Spanish team we’ve witnessed today. At that pace they’d be lucky to last 60 mins, and comparing the’88 Liverpool, they would be mid table Spanish premier, and I follow the Pool. How many times a country won the W/C is irrelevant as to who is the greatest team to walk on a football pitch. Barca are going to dominate Europe for at least the next 5years.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:22 AM

    Great performance from Spain this afternoon now for a walk before dinner.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 10:39 AM

    Undeniably accurate headline miguel. The greatest team of all time. This victory proves that reaching the top like Brazil In 1970 is one thing sustaining it like Spain have shows that they are the greatest VAMOS TOTAL FOOTBALL!!

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 12:13 AM

    Rodger your dead right Vamos Las Rojas

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 2:50 AM

    I actually agree that this makes football that bit more boring. Although its unbelievable to watch, one teams utter dominance takes away the attraction of football. The Scottish league next year will not be worth watching, they should give Celtic the trophy now. And F1 ratings a few years back struggled because schumacher was unbeatable. I’d prefer to see a tight, end to end game between two very good teams, than see one outstanding team dominate their opponents. Eg Man United 4:3 Man City, or Liverpool 4:3 Newcastle, unbelievable football games because they were so tight. 4:0 win against the second best team in Europe makes a bit of a mockery of the competition, even though it was good overall. The only sport were outright dominance is enjoyable is horse racing.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 7:04 AM

    If Spain played hurling they would be Kilkenny in a class of their own if Irish team played hurling they would be ..think better leave that blank.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 10:10 PM

    They have beaten Germany, holland and Italy in last 3 finals, do they not count as great footballing teams/countries. Who are these great south American teams? Brazil and Argentina are no world beaters these days.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 4:13 PM

    The whole ‘of all time’ tag is bit sensationalist and simplistic. There’s no way to verify it, so why even put it on the table? Okay, for the sake of the debate maybe, but then sticking ‘undeniably’ in there is just dictatorial.

    Football has evolved, like anything else, over time. Things improve. Undoubtedly, most international teams’ fitness, mentality, strategy, youth development, technical application etc, have improved since the 70s, because of the resources invested into improving these elements, so naturally, the reliance on natural talent and physicality has lessened.

    To compare Spain 2012 and Brazil 1970 is to compare Messi and Richard Dunne. Different environments, different methods, different level of hype.

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    Mute Miguel Delaney
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 4:31 PM

    Niall, you can’t compare teams across different eras. But the key point I’ve always made in this debate is that you can compare the extent of dominance a team enjoyed across their cycle.
    For example, Hungary had an 85% win record between 1951 and 1955. They didn’t however win every trophy they came across. They lost when it mattered. That is a mark against them.
    Over four years, Spain have produced the longest winning run in international history, the longest unbeaten run in international history, have won 90% of all games, have produced the best defence in any tournament and, in two of three tournaments, been the most prolific scorers.
    Most importantly of all, they’ve won all three major trophies they’ve entered.
    No team has ever matched that level of utter domination.

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    Mute Anthony Walsh
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 9:45 PM

    I just think too much emphasis is placed on their domination of Europe. They’re kicking major European butt and it’s teams like ourselves that make up the vast majority of their stats. How many times have they played the other great nations of the world?

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    Mute Anthony Walsh
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 1:34 PM

    Honestly, how can a team be called the best after only beating the best of South America once? They’ve demolished everyone in Europe for 3 tournaments, so they’re arguably the best ever here. But, for me, they have to win the next World Cup to “undeniably” claim best ever.

    Italy and Brazil have both won the World Cup twice in a row. Surely that’s a better achievement than one World Cup and two continental cups?

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 2:04 PM

    Probably because the (usual) best of South America wasn’t good enough to reach as far as Spain did in the last World Cup:
    - Germany beat Argentina 4-0 in the quarters (who then got beaten by Spain in the semis)
    - Holland beat Germany 2-1 in the quarters ( who then got beaten by Spain in the final)

    Italy 34-38 isn’t even worth considering when only a small number of nations competed in the qualifiers to the finals

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    Mute Anthony Walsh
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    Jul 2nd 2012, 9:32 PM

    Huh? Please re-read my comment. You’ve obviously misunderstood it. All I’m saying is that you can’t say they’re undeniably the best, when they’ve only won one World Cup.

    The South Americans have only had one crack at them (even if they didn’t meet) . Hardly enough to run around claiming to be the best ever.

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    Jul 2nd 2012, 3:00 PM

    No Ireland team 88-94 the Jackie chartlon years

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