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'You play rugby and think you have stress and things to worry about, until you meet the real life'

We caught up with former Ulster captain and Springbok lock Johann Muller to talk farming in a drought, bountiful times for Iain Henderson and a telling month for South African rugby.

ON DUSTY CRACKED soil on a large plot to the west of Mossel Bay, an Ulster rugby legend has work to do.

Johann Mullerโ€™s own little patch of the world stretches to 2,000 hectares (upwards of 4,900 acres in old money), but these are lean times to be a farmer on the southern cape.

The entire region is parched.

To the west, Cape Town officially declared disaster in May as the drought reached a longest run in 113 years. To the north, there are grave reports of farmers taking their own lives such is the all-encompassing strain.

โ€œItโ€™s been a very, very challenging year,โ€ booms the irrepressible Muller in between little prayers for rain on the phone to The42 this week.

Dryness in Cape Town Cape Town's Theewaterskloof reservoir, large swathes of which are completely dry. DPA / PA Images DPA / PA Images / PA Images

โ€œDown here we have a winter rainfall, but winter this year skipped us completely. So we didnโ€™t get much rain, any rain at all basically. But weโ€™re hoping that the weather will change and weโ€™ll get some really good rain this summer just to lift the spirits a bit.โ€

More than that, an opening of the skies will rejuvenate Mullerโ€™s ostrich stocks, cattle, sheep, his wheat, his barley and rapeseed, not to mention his dairy produce.

โ€œI expected farming to be a bit relaxing, and Iโ€™d have a bit of time on my hands. But I didnโ€™t realise it would take up all of my time.โ€

For four years Muller, a 2007 World Cup-winner, was a totemic figure for Ulster and their rise to the upper tiers of European competition during his time in supreme control of the line-out and pack were by no means coincidental. It remains a source of regret for Muller, and many more Ulster fans, that the exceptional 2014 Ulster team โ€” scuppered by a red card and Saracens in Europe, Leinster and injury in the Pro12 โ€” was unable to claim some silverware before the big โ€˜Bokโ€™s boots went on the peg.

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For many retired professionals, regularly scheduled exercise is a helpful bridge between one career and the next. For Muller though, now a father of three as of five months ago, gym sessions arenโ€™t exactly easy to fit in. Not that he needs any extra exertions.

โ€œSomeone said to me the other day: โ€˜youโ€™ve gotten skinny, youโ€™ve lost quite a bit of weight.โ€™ I said: โ€˜yah, look thatโ€™s real life stress.โ€™

โ€œWhenever you play rugby you think you have stress and you think you have a lot of things to worry about, until you meet the real life.

โ€œIโ€™ve always enjoyed training and Iโ€™ve always enjoyed being in shape. These days itโ€™s just tough to find time to practice or train, but on the farm thereโ€™s a lot of physical work involved so I do get my exercise just through the daily routine working on the farm.โ€

Despite the trials and tribulations for the 37-year-old Springbok-turned-farmer, Muller clearly loves the life he has made for himself halfway between Mossel Bay and Albertinia.

Itโ€™s three and a half years now since Muller pulled on an Ulster jersey for the last time, yet the lock has barely been out of touch with his former work-mates around Ravenhill.

In May, he was back in Belfast to help the province send off his compatriot Ruan Pienaar. Last summer, John Best called by for a tour of the Muller ranch while his son Rory was leading Irelandโ€™s three-Test series in South Africa.

Johann Muller with Rory Best

โ€œIโ€™m on the texts and Skype or WhatsApp once a week with different people over there. We spent four years in Belfast and it was possibly the best four years of my career.

โ€œWe absolutely loved it. My little boy was born over there, my wife fitted in great and we really made some good friends โ€“ not just in rugby, but away from rugby and the general life we really enjoyed. I almost call South Africa my second home at this stage. Belfastโ€™s a really special place and I loved my time over there.โ€

That connection, of course, means that Muller still takes a keen interest in watching Ulster and he made the eight-hour round trip to see them win a 12-try Pro14 thriller in Port Elizabeth last weekend.

That is about as close as he gets to professional rugby these days however. He does lend a hand coaching at his alma mater Oakdale Agricultural high school. Heโ€™s young, so thereโ€™s no ruling out further coaching duties in the future, but he doesnโ€™t long to repatriate himself with the grind of being a player.

โ€œItโ€™s unbelievably tough work and it is stressful and the climate plays such a huge role in being successful or not successful.

โ€œI wake up in the morning and enjoy what I do, which is fantastic. The move away from professional rugby to real life, a lot of people do struggle with it and miss the rugby setup. But for me, I donโ€™t miss the rugby, I donโ€™t miss being battered and bruised every Sunday morning and struggling to get out of bed.

โ€œEspecially if I look at the boys these days. Theyโ€™re getting bigger and stronger every year. If I look at  some of these playersโ€™ weights, Iโ€™m really happy I donโ€™t have to tackle a 115 kilo second row or front row. Delighted I can sit on the couch in front of the TV and just watch them play.โ€

A man that certainly fits that ominous description is Iain Henderson, who wears the number 4 jersey Muller wore with such distinction for the Sharks, Ulster and the โ€˜Boks when he starts for Ireland in todayโ€™s opening November Test against South Africa in the Aviva Stadium (kick-off 17.30).

Henderson studied diligently under Muller and was already an international when the mentoring figure retired at the age of 33, but Henderson often spoke openly about the expert line-out coaching and leadership advice the Springbok passed down.

Now of course, the 25-year-old is a clear first-choice in Irelandโ€™s engine room, he has captained Ulster and showed his quality in full force as a Lion.

Iain Henderson Billy Stickland / INPHO Billy Stickland / INPHO / INPHO

โ€œWithout a doubt,โ€ the Mossel Bay man responds when asked if he feels any pride at Hendersonโ€™s list of achievements.

โ€œWhen I started off there he was still in the academy. He was a big lump!

โ€œHe had huge potential, but I donโ€™t think he realised how good he can be. It was almost his second and third year when he really realised he was a phenomenal rugby player.

โ€œHe is a real talent. Heโ€™s strong, heโ€™s a great ball carrier, great hands. Itโ€™s phenomenal to see him play as well as he is.

โ€œWith more of a leadership role in Ulster I think heโ€™s becoming a more and more complete player which is brilliant to see. The leadership will complete that whole picture for him. Heโ€™s still a young man, he has seven or eight years ahead of him.

So if he can stick there and learn his trade in captaincy and leadership then thereโ€™s no reason heโ€™s not a potential Ireland captain.โ€

โ€œHe was very relaxed, very laid back and early in his career he was just enjoying life. Life went on. At a stage he realised he has unbelievable potential and if he really worked hard, put in the hours then he can become a world class rugby player and thatโ€™s exactly what happened.โ€

Sean O'Brien and Johann Muller after the game

Directly opposite Henderson today will be two more formidable locks in the shape of Eben Etzebeth (who Henderson spoke about earlier this week) and Lood de Jager. Outside of that partnership and the brilliant hooker Malcolm Marx, Muller isnโ€™t quite as enthusiastic about the quality in his nationโ€™s ranks.

โ€œI think there have been positives to take out of this current season. Last year was horrible, thereโ€™s no better word to describe it,โ€ Muller says, with the loping friendly voice turning much firmer.

โ€œIt was unbelievably sad to see and it was tough to take almost becoming the laughing stock of world rugby. South Africa is a proud rugby nation and that really hurts.

โ€œThis year there has been a definite improvement. The series against the French was positive, but theyโ€™re never great away from home so you canโ€™t read too much into that.

โ€œIn the (Rugby) Championship at times we played really well and at times we were really poor. Getting an absolute hiding from the All Blacks in Albany, bouncing back in Cape Town and to be honest I think we should have won that game.

โ€œThat was a real positive, but weโ€™ve got to be careful saying after one game โ€˜weโ€™re all back.โ€™ Weโ€™ve got to be careful.โ€

The month ahead is pivotal on a couple of fronts for South Africa then.

Off the field, where their bid for RWC 2023 will be put to a World Rugby council vote against Irelandโ€™s and Franceโ€™s offerings on Wednesday. But Muller is focused on whatโ€™s ahead of Allister Coetzee and his players on pitches in Ireland, France, Italy and Wales on consecutive weekends.

Johann Muller after the game Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

By the second week of December, incoming director Rassie Erasmus will have a crystal clear picture of what his job will entail.

โ€œThis tour is going to be a very interesting one and will decide if weโ€™re in real trouble or if weโ€™re still competing at the top level.

โ€œThis next month for me, will say a lot about the current squad and the players. There are some really good players and some players who are borderline not good enough to play international rugby.

โ€œThatโ€™s my personal view and a lot of people might disagree with me. But at the end of this month weโ€™ll have a good idea if weโ€™re good enough or if weโ€™re going to be in quite a bit of trouble for quite a bit of time.โ€

Rain down.

Ireland

15. Rob Kearney (Leinster)
14. Andrew Conway (Munster)
13. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster)
12. Bundee Aki (Connacht)
11. Jacob Stockdale (Ulster)
10. Johnny Sexton (Leinster)
9. Conor Murray (Munster)

1. Cian Healy (Leinster)
2. Rory Best Capt (Ulster)
3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster)
4.  Iain Henderson (Ulster)
5. Devin Toner (Leinster)
6. Peter Oโ€™Mahony (Munster)
7. Sean Oโ€™Brien (Leinster)
8. CJ Stander (Munster)

Replacements:

16. Rob Herring (Ulster)
17. Dave Kilcoyne (Munster)
18. John Ryan (Munster)
19. James Ryan (Leinster)
20. Rhys Ruddock (Leinster)
21. Kieran Marmion (Connacht)
22. Joey Carbery (Leinster)
23. Darren Sweetnam (Munster)

South Africa

15. Andries Coetzee (Lions)
14. Dillyn Leyds (Stormers)
13. Jesse Kriel (Bulls)
12. Damian de Allende (Stormers)
11. Courtnall Skosan (Lions)
10. Elton Jantjies(Lions)
9. Ross Cronje (Lions)

1. Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks)
2. Malcolm Marx (Lions)
3. Coenie Oosthuizen (Sharks)
4. Eben Etzebeth Capt. (Stormers)
5. Lood de Jager (Bulls)
6. Siya Kolisi (Stormers)
7. Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers)
8. Francois Louw (Bath)

Replacements:

16. Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers)
17. Steven Kitshoff (Stormers)
18. Wilco Louw (Stormers)
19. Franco Mostert (Lions)
20. Uzair Cassiem (Cheetahs)
21. Rudy Paige (Bulls)
22. Handrรฉ Pollard (Bulls)
23. Francois Venter (Cheetahs)

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    Mute Noel James Doherty
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    Nov 11th 2017, 9:51 AM

    His own little patch ehโ€ฆ2,000 hectares

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    Nov 11th 2017, 9:59 AM

    @Noel James Doherty: Yeah, of sand it would appear.

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    Nov 11th 2017, 9:33 AM

    Ulster really misses the Leadership of Johann Muller this season. If the farming continues to decline would swap Bryn Cunningham for Muller in a heart beat.

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    Nov 11th 2017, 1:19 PM

    @Christiaan Theron: More unjustified, unreasoned management bashing here. Bryn is โ€œresponsible for recruiting and retaining players, identifying talent and managing contract negotiations. He also oversees the professional services around the senior squad and the management of team operations on match-nights.โ€ Muller was a sensational second row and is now a farmer. What on earth makes you think he has the skill set to perform that role? Forwards coach after Gibbes? Absolutely. Professional Game Operations Director? Not in a month of Sundays.

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    Nov 11th 2017, 3:32 PM

    @Paul McCutcheon: Oh and who do think has been providing information on all these South African players? Unjustified and unreasoned management bashing? I suggest you listen Fez concerns on BBC after the last Kings game. Where does the buck stop ?

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    Nov 11th 2017, 3:43 PM

    @Paul McCutcheon: Bangorian supports the Management of another Bangorian in Shane Logan. When does the nepotism stop?

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    Nov 11th 2017, 12:43 PM

    Great interview with a top man. Together with Brian McLaughlin, Johan dragged us out of a sorry place, helped along by Ruan of course. But unfortunately we are on our way back as each of them has left.
    Hopefully something will turn things around for Ulster but we seem to be rudderless and without a club culture that seems to be so important, think Munster in their pomp or even Connaught under Pat Lam.
    All the best to Johan, it sounds like a hard life. Hopefully we will see him and Ruan dragging Ulster forward again one day.

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    Nov 11th 2017, 7:47 PM

    @IR1111: believe me, you do not need to look beyond Ulster to see that farming is a hard life

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