IRELAND HEAD COACH Andy Farrell has named an unchanged starting team for his sideโs clash with England at Twickenham in the Six Nations on Sunday [KO 3pm, Virgin Media One].
After victories over Scotland and Wales in the opening two rounds of the championship, Farrell has opted for continuity as he looks for Ireland to maintain their winning momentum.
21-year-old number eight Caelan Doris is fit again after suffering a head injury in the opening minutes of his debut against Scotland but has to settle for a place on the bench as Farrell sticks with a back row of Peter OโMahony, Josh van der Flier, and CJ Stander.
Cian Healy, Rob Herring, and Tadhg Furlong make up the front row for the third game in a row, while James Ryan and Iain Henderson once again partner up in the second row.
Conor Murray and captain Johnny Sexton are the starting halfbacks again, while Robbie Henshaw has recovered from his head injury against Wales to line up in midfield alongside Bundee Aki.
Keith Earlsโ impressive showing off the bench against the Welsh hasnโt persuaded Farrell to rejig his back three either, as Andrew Conway, Jacob Stockdale, and Jordan Larmour start again.
Dorisโ reintroduction is the only change to Irelandโs bench for this weekend, with Max Deegan dropping out of the matchday 23.
Ireland (v England):
15. Jordan Larmour
14. Andrew Conway
13. Robbie Henshaw
12. Bundee Aki
11. Jacob Stockdale
10. Johnny Sexton (captain)
9. Conor Murray
1. Cian Healy
2. Rob Herring
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Iain Henderson
5. James Ryan
6. Peter OโMahony
7. Josh van der Flier
8. CJ Stander
Replacements:
16. Ronan Kelleher
17. Dave Kilcoyne
18. Andrew Porter
19. Devin Toner
20. Caelan Doris
21. John Cooney
22. Ross Byrne
23. Keith Earls
Solid team that are able to a job, Iโll hear no more about it
@apuuu: ah but you will when Jim & Robb see what you have to say
@my name: J O R D A N L A R M O U R Is a weird way of spelling Mike Haley
@Cortiss: youโve lost me there
@apuuu: ah, Dorisโs injury and winning those first two games with CJ at 8 & POM at 6 wasnโt great in some ways in terms of us developing our game plan. Doris was selected at 8 for a reason on day 1 and that reason hasnโt changed so itโs ultra conservative by Farrell not to follow through and start him at 8.
@BMJF: Scotland and England are 2 vastly different teams though.
Would have swapped out the looseheads, think kilcoyne has the momentum and would provide an extra heavy carrier which I think we need along with his more dominant scrummaging. Strongest team possible though all the same. Think weโve got our best pairing at centre irrespective of ringroses fitness. Canโt wait for it.
@Jim Demps: I think heโs better off the bench and plays a crucial role bring huge impact for the last 30, similar to the South African Bomb squad.
@Cortiss: nah, start your best players. Why would you have the better player on the bench for 55 mins? This better off the bench thing is nonsense, heโs better on the pitch playing for longer than sitting on the sidelines.
@Jim Demps: Healy hasnโt been great recently but Killer hasnโt been knocking the door down in all fairness, think Healys experience and form over last year gives him the nod
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@Jim Demps: I donโt see the logic in weakening your team for the last 20/30 when the game is in the balance. Everyone has their own take.
@Jim Demps: just read the Ringrose comment, been consistently a 8/10 and the magic we need, heโs first centre on team sheet. Yes Henshaw and Aki played well vs Wales but it has been shaky is recent times
@Cortiss: Iโd disagree, a simple comparison between the two from the welsh game tells itโs own story. Aside from the fact that the only scrum penalty weโve won in two games was killers, in 60 minutes Healy carried twice for 3m, attempted 6 tackles and missed one. In the 20 minutes that killer was on he carried twice for 5m and attempted 10 tackles and missed one. Considering the ruck stats werenโt glowing about Healy Iโd say those numbers tell their own story re work rate.
@Cortiss: for Leinster maybe but Iโd be struggling to think of the last time I saw that magic for ireland. Think henshaw gives us that directness we need and gets us over the gain line. Henshaw isnt as good a first centre as Aki, Iโve always said that, heโs a far far better 13 than he is a 12.
@Jim Demps: have to disagree on Ringrose. He is a adult our best centre when fit. Was one of the only players to come out of the World Cup with any credit. Heโs a class act.
@Jim Demps: the thing is we see his magic every game, but everybody is used to it that itโs over looked now. Also I know Leinster is different to Ireland but 2 hatricks and many brilliant performances show his class
@Jim Demps: Comparing a starting prop against a prop who comes on for the last 20 minutes isnโt a fair comparison. No doubt Killer is playing well currently but to say heโs the better player is yet to be proven.
@Cortiss: Iโm not as convinced as you seem to be. Youโre going back nearly 2 years since he scored or assisted against a top tier country, and 2 years again for the time previous. Donโt get me wrong, heโs class and itโs great to see the impact he has for Leinster but Im not so sure heโs an automatic choice at 13. Henshaw brings more to the jersey as an all rounder, heโs a better defender and while he may be short of the magic as you put it of ringrose, he gets over the gainline and is a good distributor
@Rocky Raccoon: well yes Iโd agree given that one is on the pitch for 3 times longer than the other but If the sub is surpassing the numbers of the starter given the time on pitch difference then Iโd say thereโs an issue.
@Jim Demps: Ringrose like most layers has been constrained by Joes tactics over the last couple of years. I seem to recall you not fancying Henshaw during the World Cup. Changing your tune?
@Kevin: not really, still donโt fancy him as a 12. Iโve always said that he could be a world class 13, massively over rated as a 12 though.
@Jim Demps: try scoring against top tier nations isnโt a major problem. Heโs a smart player who creates tries for others, very unselfish too. Off to the top of my head I remember the unnecessary pass to Conway to make sure of the try and the lovely pass to stockdale vs Wales on the loop
@Jim Demps: fair enough. Iโd tend to agree you you in so far as preferring him as a 13. I hope he goes well and lasts the game on Sunday!!!
@Cortiss: yup, Iโm not arguing that heโs a bad player at all, just maybe not a guaranteed spot on the team. I havenโt done the numbers but Iโd wonder if henshaw and Aki have played together more times than ringrose and henshaw?
@Jim Demps: So you wouldnโt factor fatigue and Wales being 12 points down in a low scoring game into your comparison?
@Jim Demps: I wouldnโt think so, but the Leinster partnership gives them an advantage I think
@Kevin: you think ringrose has been constrained by tactics? I donโt know what that makes henshaw when heโs literally been shoved into 12 to be used in the Jamie Roberts role even though heโs always been a 13/15
@Cortiss: may be an unpopular opinion but I believe having your best 12 at 12 really gives either partnership Aki is a part of an advantage, the better 13 can be selected between the two others for each matchup then
@Cortiss: Iโd say it might be a lot closer than you think. Henshaw has only played forty odd times for Leinster and heโs got nearly 80 games for connacht
@Rocky Raccoon: do explain how fatigue affects the tackling and carrying numbers differently for the two.
@Jim Demps: Killer isnโt a better player.. but he does provide some ball carrying impact off the bench. More to the role that a few aggressive carries. Killer offers more off the bench as other said and he is strengths can be used best when other team is tiring a bit
@Jim Demps: I like the continuity. Killer is an unbelievable impact player but I accept there are other opinions.
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Wouldโve like to see a 6-2 split on the bench to match Englandโs physicality bar that Iโm happy, Cooney and earls couldโve covered the backs and then add deegan to the forwards for the last 20 mins. Just a suggestion but I think that wouldโve been better than having Byrne who will get 5 mins max bar and injury
@Cortiss: thatโs just silly, you would have cooney come on at 10 if jinny got injured? In Twickenham? Do you remember Tom mccourt?
@Con Henihan: yes I would if all came to all
@Con Henihan: Tom *Court โ though I guess you have proved a point about how forgettable that afternoon was
@Cortiss: yeah that would have been a potential option โ especially with Cooney able to kick
Best team available, fingers crossed they get the job. Should be a cracker.
You know things are going well due to the huge atmosphere change with This team being picked, if this was for the Scotland game there would be chaos. Pete and Stander proving there worth as with Henshaw and Murray. Bring on England on Sunday !
How Ronan Kelleher doesnโt start ahead of Herring is beyond me
@@: Kelleher unfortunate with Hand injury, and Herring hasnโt done anything wrong to lose that 2 Jersey
@Cortiss: hasnt done anything wrong is such a lame excuse for justifying selection. Start the better player. Killer, kelleher and Doris should all be starting.
@#JUSTICE4NOEL: Doris over Pete not a hope, Kelleher hasnโt been shooting the starts out recently
@Cortiss: not a hope? Because he wasnt poor against Wales he deserves it over Doris who has played better all year?
@#JUSTICE4NOEL: cooney should be starting also btw. Most in form scrum half in europe.
@@: heโs been injured recently and Herring has been doing very well in there. Not sure how that is beyond you
@Andrew Taz Donohoe: played last week for ster. Been class all year. Brings more to the table than herring. Easy decision really.
@Cortiss: Kelleher is only back from injury so he hasnโt had to much of a chance to โshoot the stars outโ recently. He played very well for Leinster last week. Herring has been fine. Kelleher will get his chance.
@#JUSTICE4NOEL: hard to disagree with any of your selection calls there, bar Kilcoyne. Think he is being overrated a bit and Healy is still out in front. Can understand not wanting to change things in Twickenham, but that back row has not worked vs real opposition. Think it will be the same on Sunday.
@#JUSTICE4NOEL: Kelleher is very one-dimensional with his running, offers very little else, and not as good a LO thrower as Herring. No surprise and correct call that heโs benched.
@Cortiss: the debacle that was Japan RWC was partly caused by the โhe hasnโt done anythingโ to be dropped approach. You donโt improve as a team by saying if it ainโt broke donโt fix it. Kelleher offers something a little bit special in my view, as does Doris and to beat England I think we needed their youthful exuberance, dynamism and ball handling skills. That said theyโll probably come on off the bench together with 20mins to go
@Andrew Taz Donohoe: he played for Leinster at weekend and looked fired up โฆBut look it heโll be on for 20mins anyway
@Carmine Lorenzo: I agree. We needed something different .. a ball playing, passing, off loading, running back row needed to beat the power game of England. Wales showed last year how to beat them and itโs a combination of physicality and the ability of forwards with ball in hand
Never understood why Henderson always gets in
@Jerry Mahony: Agreed but I suppose Toner has gotten old , Beirne should be starting but heโs currently injured & Dillane has to improve on the nuts and bolts of a second row.
@Jerry Mahony: very harsh on one of our most reliable players. Brings great dynamism and has a great radar for a second row. And who else would replace him?
@Jerry Mahony:
Because he is the best player in his position. Isnโt that the reason any player should be picked?
@Jerry Mahony: I wouldnโt be his greatest fan either but he is currently our best option. When heโs on top form heโs excellent but can be pretty average imo.
Win or lose I would expect changes for the Italy game. If those who get their chance then shoot the lights out theyโll be retained for France otherwise back pretty much to Sundayโs 15
@TL55: He always seems to struggle against top strong packs
@Jerry Mahony: who are you picking ahead of him?
@TL55: players getting a chance v Italy wonโt get play V France I donโt think. If we beat England which weโre not tipped to do then we need to make sure of it against Italy and play most of our first 15 and most of our first 23
@Jerry Mahony: Iโd agree in that he sremd to be offering none of the forward momentum we need from a lock but heโs our only realistic option for now. Neither Toner nor Dillane tick as many boxes even though theyโre better in some areas.
@Philip Stewart: personally think the options arenโt great but dillane deserves a shot
Worried about that back row, which has been proven to not work against proper opposition. Itโs hard to justify changing a winning side but weโve played two very poor teams so far. Not sure how to call this one.
@Carmine Lorenzo: It worked against the world cup semi-finalists Wales. You have a high bar on proper opposition. England away is tough, weโre not favourites but I reckon based on the two previous selections and results this is the right team.
Our best 23 overall to be fair but thereโs certainly a few guys like Doris (for POM) , Kilcoyne , Cooney and arguably Earls (for Stockdale) who deserve to start but will hopefully have key roles.
@John Carey: Even as a Munster Earls is fortunate to be in 23 on form, when Addison recovers I think the 23 jersey is his
@Cortiss: Earls is a legend. Still a brilliant exciting clever player.
Canโt wait for the match, especially seeing as Iโll be there!!!!
@Cortiss:
Addison is of course an unknown quantity at this level, but he is the fastest player in the squad and competently covers centre, full back and wing.
Stockdale certainly hasnโt been firing on all cylinders, but we know he is a game breaker, and hopefully he will show it again on Sunday.
@MrMagoo: agreed offers an unbelievable work ethic , diverse skill set and footwork with loads of experience.
Addison is extremely talented but injury prone and Stockdale isnโt the game breaker he can be the last 13 months and hasnโt added anything to his game.
@Cortiss: fortunate? Ah cmon he should be starting ahead of stockdale. He always performs for Ireland
@MrMagoo: hopefully no injuries and we can make our substitutions based on tactics rather than forced
@Jim Lynch: Stockdale has scored 16 tries in 27 games at an average of 0.67 tries per game. The next highest average is Denis Hickey with 29 tries from 62 games at 0.47. Earls has 30 tries from 83 appearances at a 0.37 average. Stockdaleโs aerial game and defence have improved dramatically. Only a fool would drop our most consistent try scorer ever.
@Sustainable Hedgehog: Gotta point out Earls played at centre for 18 months
@Sustainable Hedgehog: with Stockdale on the left the ball naturally makes it to him a lot more than Earls on the right
@Sustainable Hedgehog: fairly good there with the calculator lad. Youโve got to contest in the air to have a chance at being good. Not saying heโs a bad player by any means heโs very very good, Iโd just like to see him on the ball more and go look for the ball more which he hasnโt done much of this season. Wether thatโs a tactical thing by his coaches I donโt know but Iโd rather earls in there against England
I donโt agree with the platitude that you never change a winning side, but itโs probably justified in this case.
There can be few complaints about the selection after the last performance.
Sunday is a bigger challenge, and hopefully they will measure up. If not, then the door should be open for changes against France, and not just the run out against Italy.
@Brian McAll: it wont though. The changes will come against Italy as they are annually. Then when we fail at the next world cup again people will ask why. Endless cycle of stubbornness and stupidity. Also if u dont like it block me Munster fans. Dont care.
Still no place in the 23 for Heffernan or Dillane. Bad mistake. Even with the brothers missing itโs England to win by 20 plus.
@Ray Ridge: definitely stay off the sause please
@Ray Ridge: As a Connacht Supporter , I couldnโt agree Dillane should be in the frame โฆ Yes granted after a very challenging year in 2018/19 due to injury he coming back to his best this season โฆ.and thatโs great for Connacht but itโs hard to argue he is ahead of Ryan , Henderson , Toner โฆ. or that he should be on the bench
But in there a strong case for Dave Heffernan to be 23 man match day squad. He is having an outstanding season for Connacht as 1st choice Hooker โฆ and he had a huge role in the Demolition of Cardiff at Sportsground last Saturday..
Given Kelleherโs recent injury woes and lack of game time โฆ.it seems with Heffernanโs recent match form he has done enough to be in the reckoning โฆ.
@XvSv: Not saying he should be ahead of Ryan or Henderson but definitely ahead of Toner. He had more aggressive carries in the first 30 minutes against Cardiff than Toner has in the whole of his career. Being 7โ10 and able to win an odd lineout doesnโt cut it at top class international rugby as a second row anymore.
Good stuff! Will be a very tough match to win. Looking forward to it
It could be a good Day for Doris
Henshaw and Herring are nice beefy upgrades on Ringrose and Best but I still think England will run over the top of us and probably pick off our lineout. VDF and POM will be blown away as per. Doris at 8 or Ruddock at 6 would be much better options given the task at hand I think.
I would have introduced Earls (for Conway), Doris (for P OโM) and Toner (for Henderson) into the starting 15 and JackMcGrath (instead of Killer) on the bench. Ulster front 3 โmurderedโ Munster in the Pro14 game.
However, was do I know!
Come on Ireland!
@Connachtabu: whatever about Doris for o Mahonyโฆ.. Canโt see any argument for Earls, Toner or mcgrath. Mcgrath OK at scrum time but nowhere near mobile enough around the park. Not fit enough.
@Connachtabu: its a bit early to be on the drink
@Mark walsh: Amadan
@Ray Ridge: Lets wait and see. happy to eat my words!
I agree with several of the comments posted above and am afraid for our backrow against England. Than said hopefully VDF can up his game to the same level as CJ and POM if he can it will be a surprise, in a more serious note this is the game for James Ryan to prove he is actually world class, he is very good but he needs to dominate this area to get in to that bracket , hopefully we will be talking about him having Mario in his pocket all game and not the other way aroundโฆ.
Thereโs a confidence in this team. Huge job to do on Sunday.
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