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Analysis: Ireland's scrum boxed clever in a flawless display against Scotland

Jamie Heaslip’s game management ensured constant quick ball for the backline.

TOO OFTEN, I find myself tearing my remaining hair out watching the scrums in test matches. One side is cheating, while the other is counter-cheating. The referee is guessing, and the powers that be are ignoring.

On Saturday at the Aviva Stadium, we were given a proper contest. Bar a few dodgy feeds, it was the most honest scrum battle I can remember seeing in a long time. Both sets of front rows pretty much drove straight and square, concentrated on retaining possession, and using the scrum as a platform to attack.

There were standout performers. Jack McGrath and WP Nel found themselves named in a vast majority of Six Nations Teams of the Tournament, and neither gave an inch to each other on Saturday. Mike Ross held the previously destructive Alasdair Dickinson to a quiet game, while off the bench, Nathn White put in his most assured and confident Irish display yet.

Jamie Heaslip was also outstanding, not just around the pitch, but at the base of the scrum. After Scotland decimated the French scrum in round four, we were all expecting a long, hard battle on Saturday, but Ireland were shrewd and canny. Knowing Scotland thrived on prolonged scrums and driving over the ball, Ireland made sure their ball was in and out with little fuss. Rather than beating their chest and playing to the Scottish strength, they delivered fast ball and allowed the backline to use it.

The very first scrum of the day showed us exactly what Ireland were planning to do. If we look below, we can see how they sides set up. Jack McGrath has a perfect body position; flat back and a nice bend in the knees.

But the man to watch here is Jamie Heaslip. We can see below that he’s in his usual position in between the two second rows.

1 Initial

However, once Pascal Gauzere gives Conor Murray the signal to feed the ball, Heaslip shifts to the left, positioning himself in between CJ Stander and Donnacha Ryan.

We can also see how Rory Best has brought his right foot forward in anticipation of the ball being fed. It’s illegal to do this, but as we all know, the scrum feed has moved so far down on the referee’s list of priorities.

1 foot up

With Best’s foot up and ready, and Heaslip slotting between the second row and flanker, Ireland are preparing for a fast channel one ball, clearly wary of how destructive the Scots can be.

When Murray feeds the ball, the clock reads 3:00 exactly…

1 ball in

And when Heaslip brings it out, we’re on 3:01…

Having timed it on a stopwatch, the ball spent just 1.2 seconds in the scrum. No hanging about.

1 ball out

Much of the speed was down to Best being able to almost pre-hook the ball by getting his foot up. However, on the second scrum of the day, that option wasn’t there.

Scotland have become clever operators in the last 12 months, and for the second drive of the day, the made sure they brought the scrum as low as possible, ensuring that Best wouldn’t be able to lift his leg up without risking a collapse.

We can see below just how low they’ve brought it, barely two feet above pitch level. However, McGrath is once again excellent, keeping his 90 degree bend at the hips, and 120 degree at the knees, ensuring stability for Ireland to retain possession.

2 initial

After two solid, safe retentions, Ireland tried to attack Scotland on the third scrum. John Barclay was in the bin, and the Scots decided not to bring a winger in to cover, meaning it was 8 v 7 in favour of Ireland.

Again, McGrath is textbook, and we can see that as the pressure comes on, WP Nel gets slowly turned inside. However, we can also see that Heaslip is putting everything into the drive at number eight, with the Scots without a player at the back of their pack.

3 mcgrath

With Heaslip putting so much into the drive, and the ball in danger of slipping out the side of the scrum, CJ Stander shows some excellent footballing skills.

The scrum is already starting to cave in on his side, with the ball in danger of popping out. But despite all the momentum falling inside, he’s able help drive Jack McGrath, and keep the ball safely in the scrum.

In the end Ireland were awarded a penalty, but Stander wasn’t to know.

3 Stander protecting

While retaining their own ball was key, dealing with an attacking Scottish scrum was even more crucial.

By keeping errors to a minimum, we’d played more than 50 minutes of the game by the time Scotland actually had the put in to a scrum, and when they did, Mike Ross was solid as a rock.

As we saw from Jack McGrath in the first half, Ross nailed the fundamentals, with a good body position from the outset.

5 initisl

Dickinson isn’t able to budge Ross and the scrum eventually collapses , but it looked like an accidental collapse rather than any player getting beaten.

We can see how Dickinson is bound on the jersey of Ross in the picture above, and eventually, Ross’ jersey simply stretches too far, and Dickinson falls. Penalising either player in this instance would be incredibly harsh, and with the ball available at the back, Gauzere tells Laidlaw to play on.

5 jersey pull

When Nathan White replaced Ross, he picked up where the Leinster man left off, and provided a consistently solid platform for ball retention.

Alasdair Dickinson took apart Rabah Slimani in Murrayfield last time out, but he couldn’t disrupt White here, who perched himself on a solid base, and allowed more quick ball to the Irish backline.

Below we can see how his footwork is spot on, with his front studs only touching the pitch, while he has a nice long bind on Dickinson, keeping the scrum up.

Again, quick ball is crucial. The clock is at 63:33 when it’s fed, and in just four seconds Conor Murray will be attacking.

6 initial

Dickinson really has a go at White, but he can’t be moved, sticking to the basics.

6 white good

And by 63:37, Murray is away.

The speed at which Ireland were getting the ball in and out was impressive, and shortly after, they needed just 1.5 seconds to go from put-in to attack. Similarly to the opening scrum of the day, Jamie Heaslip is the man to watch.

If we look at the initial shot, we can see how Heaslip is positioned between the second rows.

7 heaslip initial

But just as Murray gets ready to feed, we can see him shift across in between CJ Stander and Ultan Dillane.

The clock on the screen reads 70:01…

7 ball in

One and a half seconds later, Murray has his hands on the ball again. Also, the stability of the front row is key, with great technique and a fine long bind from Nathan White.

7 ball out

If we watch is back in full, we can really appreciate the speed of the restart, and the quick adjustment from Heaslip to slot into the near channel.

7 ball in and out

Of the game’s nine scrums, Scotland only got to put the ball into two of them, the second of which they made a right mess of.

Scotland’s tactic is generally not to strike the ball when Laidlaw puts it in, instead stepping over it.

Like most scrum-halves, Laidlaw will keep the ball on his pack’s side of the scrum, but when this one was put in straight down the middle, and the Scottish pack couldn’t walk over it, he panicked, trying to kick it back in, which Conor Murray wasn’t too pleased with.

However, a big drive from Cian Healy on Moray Low caused Scotland to go backwards and Ireland turned over the ball.

8 full scrum

It’s worth looking at the differences between Jamie Heaslip and his opposite number Josh Strauss in this scrum.

On the left we can see Heaslip driving from the back, furiously powering his legs, and remaining low to the ground, while Strauss is offering no support to the second rows, locking his body out, and making little to no impact on the drive.

8 heaslip and strauss

After a difficult campaign, it was nice to see Ireland bring their best scrummaging performance to the Aviva on the final day.

It wasn’t the most powerful and destructive of displays, but it was as effective as any they produced in 2015, when the scrum was a weapon for Ireland.

Even when faced with a more destructive opponent, Ireland boxed clever, relying on simple, clean ball, and refusing to engage the Scots in a battle.

Only three months to go until South Africa, where our depth at tighthead will be seriously tested by The Beast.

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    @Tommy C: three to draw but four to win. And even with scoring four to win they still.needed to prevent barca from scoring. Funny , before the game barca were the best team in the world. After the game they were “just not as good as they used to be” etc. Goway. This was savage but Liverpool’s arguably the best champions league come back of all time. Some say it was barca vs psg but we all seen the diving and play acting in that match

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    May 8th 2019, 10:10 PM

    @Ciarán O Shaughnessy: yah.. can’t get much worse atm.. Can only hope Liverpool lift it 6 times and Arsenal end with silverware again and spurs zilch

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    May 8th 2019, 10:14 PM

    @seancreaven13: this is different. I’m only bantering and on the wind up at times gone by.. I respect Liverpool as a club, its spurs, united and Chelsea that I really can’t stand

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    May 8th 2019, 10:45 PM

    Have to say it’s a better comeback than last night. Spurs had to completely switch the momentum at half time unlike Liverpool last night. Pool fan

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    May 8th 2019, 10:09 PM

    Incredible. Congratulations to all Spurs fans from a Liverpool fan. Hope the final isn’t both teams cancelling each other out due to over familiarity and a penalty shoot out.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:14 PM

    Well done to spurs , serious 2 nd half , never say die attitude, can’t believe these 2 teams were on there knees in group stages in last match n now look at em , c ye in Madrid ;)

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    May 8th 2019, 10:15 PM

    Well done Spurs, a class set of semi finals

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    May 8th 2019, 10:17 PM

    @themansam:

    It’s on now boy.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:19 PM

    @Nollaig Elliot: for sure. You could say I’m looking forward to it

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    May 8th 2019, 10:07 PM

    Madness. What a season and what a final potentially

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    May 8th 2019, 10:13 PM

    Last night and tonight are the reasons it’s called “The Beautiful Game” Mad, crazy, fabulous etc etc

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    May 8th 2019, 10:24 PM

    That ladies and gentlemen is why you don’t sing “Don’t worry” at half time

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    May 8th 2019, 10:24 PM

    Wow just wow 2 nights in a row of some serious jaw dropping football, why we love the game

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    May 8th 2019, 10:25 PM

    Move the game to Croker

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    May 8th 2019, 10:44 PM

    @Sean Treacy: Newbridge or nowhere!

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    May 8th 2019, 10:06 PM

    Men against boys

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    May 8th 2019, 10:08 PM

    Teenagers against pre-teens.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:12 PM

    @Biscuits Patinkin: pre-teens v toddlers

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    May 8th 2019, 10:16 PM

    @Beer Belly 0476: toddlers v newborns

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    May 8th 2019, 10:17 PM

    @Beer Belly 0476: foetuses v glints

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    May 8th 2019, 10:10 PM

    Jez football ehh….what a couple of nights of football.!!!!!

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    May 8th 2019, 10:15 PM

    Can see Liverpool winning the final fairly handy. They will hold no fear of Spurs whatsoever. Ajax would have been more of an unknown.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:22 PM

    @Damien: it’s not going to be easy whatsoever. Go in with that mentality you usually lose

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    May 8th 2019, 10:24 PM

    @Yorkie1892: I’m not lining out for Liverpool so my attitude shouldn’t affect them too much. I just feel that an injury free liverpool team are too strong for Spurs.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:25 PM

    @Damien: I thought City would steamroll Spurs in the quarters, look how that went. I’d have thought that after the last two nights’ football you’d realise that there are no certainties in football!

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    May 8th 2019, 10:29 PM

    @Stephen Lyons: it’s far from a certainty. Just my opinion. I’ve been wrong once or twice before.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:56 PM

    @Damien: can see spurs winning the final fairly handy .they will hold no fear of Liverpool whatsoever .Barcelona would have been much more of an unknown

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    May 8th 2019, 11:15 PM

    @Dec Gill: Fair point, but if you were a betting man. Would you back a team that have lost 13 league games this season, or a team which have lost 1. Spurs can put in a good performance now and again. But overall are too inconsistent. You don’t know which spurs will turn up on the night.

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    May 9th 2019, 12:59 AM

    @Dec Gill: stick to the horses declan

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    May 8th 2019, 10:45 PM

    Barca comeback Vs PSG was good but it had diving Neymar throwing himself around like the blatant cheat he is, and a terrible ref. Last two nights were far more affecting for football in general.

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    May 9th 2019, 12:11 AM

    Unbelievable stuff. Never thought I’d see us in a Champions League Final. Mental game.

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    May 8th 2019, 10:13 PM

    Ah here!!

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    May 8th 2019, 10:27 PM

    Tottenham have the opportunity to finish second in a major competition. What a wonderful achievement. In fairness they did well tonight but it’s Liverpool’s to lose.

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    May 8th 2019, 11:50 PM

    Didn’t seem too much with Kane after the goal, should defo be playing in the final

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    May 8th 2019, 11:59 PM

    The Champions League Final contested by two teams who aren’t champions in their own league. Give me the old European Cup any day.

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    May 9th 2019, 2:29 AM

    Miracle number 3 on Sunday, Brighton beat City??

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    May 8th 2019, 11:12 PM

    congrats to spurs, would have preferred Ajax in the final, tough one to call with the pressure being on Liverpool in final, spurs nothing to lose. let’s hope it’s a great match like the semis. ynwa

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    May 8th 2019, 11:28 PM

    @zillas: spurs…nothing to lose? A bug final perhaps?

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    May 9th 2019, 12:20 AM

    Don’t support either team but great game for the neutral. Watched and listened to the pundits. No one mentioned how tadic, brilliant for them this season and eldest, most experienced at 92.32 mins tried to bend it in the corner from 17 yards? Had the defender ends up could habe switched ran towards the corner for applause.

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    May 9th 2019, 8:34 AM

    Premier League teams in the most competitive league in the world proving to the world that being 4th place doesnt mean your a weak side. Great to see Premier League teams putting their stamp on Europe again. All English final hasn’t been seen since United vs Chelsea in ’08. Thankfully we got a second go in 2012 to win a title.

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    May 8th 2019, 11:47 PM

    Yeeeees !!! Whst a comeback what a match.. what a goal right at the death..!! Cant believe how good the spurs second choice players have been, I mean Son and Moura and Lorenta only figure if the main man is injured, and yet look how many goals they’ve scored between them.. but I have to say Lucus Moura was better than Messi when Spurs played Barcelona earlier in the campaign even though spurs lost those games.. everyone thinks Liverpool have it in the bag.. Spurs already beat the best team in England Man city so now on to the second best Liverpool ! But seriously this just goes to show all the money in the world can only get you so far, but when you play against teams with sole and belief like Liverpool and Spurs you better not take anything for granted or your end up with nothing but a huge wage bill.. good night and God bless…

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