Murray Kinsella reports from Soldier Field
IT WAS AN unforgettable moment in a day full of them.
This particular moment came before Irelandโs incredible 40-29 victory against the All Blacks, the first win over New Zealand at senior menโs level in Irish rugby history.
With the Kiwis forming their usual triangle to carry out the haka, Rory Best and his team-mates settled into a figure of eight, with Munster players Conor Murray, CJ Stander, Donnacha Ryan and Simon Zebo at the front along with debutant Joey Carbery.
Hands by their sides, calm and poised, staring the haka down. Fronting up to the challenge, in a manner Foley would have appreciated. A sensational show of respect for โAxelโ.
Speaking after the historic win, Best said he and the Ireland squad felt that standing in the figure of eight to face New Zealandโs haka at Soldier Field was the right thing to do in paying tribute to Foley.
It was something that we talked about through the management to the players,โ said Best. โI think a lot has been made of the really sad news that Munster got a few weeks ago and this was the national teamโs first time together since his passing.
โWe felt that it was the right thing to do and then to put the Munster boys at the front of that, for them to lead that number eight, it just felt like the right thing to do and it was our way as an Irish national team to show a mark of respect to Axel and his family.โ
Head coach Joe Schmidt said his players had paid a fine tribute to the Munster legend, in front of a crowd of 62,300.
โI really thought that the players did themselves proud and to be fair, they did Axel proud, and his family,โ said Schmidt. โThey did their country proud today and I think the supporters did pretty well as well.โ
Best felt that Ireland had been able to channel the emotion around the entire occasion in Chicago perfectly, especially because their preparation early in the week had been ideal.
โWe had not as much time as weโre used to together, but we were prepared,โ said Best. โWe put a lot of pressure on to do as much homework off the pitch because we didnโt have as much time on it.
Obviously, there was a lot of emotion and Iโm sure some of the Munster boys got a bit from that. It was just an emotionally-charged day from us because we knew we had a great opportunity.
โUltimately, we did a lot of our work during the week to make sure that was banked so we could draw on a bit of that emotion.โ
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Times like these make you proud too be Irish
@ColmD: Great win yet they still have never won a world cup and out of only ten decent rugby teams in the world, only Ireland and Italy have never got to the semi finals of a world cupโฆ
โฆ.and this is why you have no friends Troll mcTroll. Get a life.
@Peter Cavey: I have a life. Trollโฆwhy? Because you donโt agree with me or something I have said is not true?
Why so negative paul? Let us have our moment of history & enjoy it to the fullโฆ We waited 111 years for this moment so let us have it please..
If weโd won the World Cup yesterday, heโd have said itโs meaningless because weโve never beaten the All Blackโs. Some people just wasnโt to be miserable.
*want*
When you consider the size of Ireland compared to other countries and then to top it of it it has to compete with so many other sports we do amazing job in every sport very proud of our Irish athletes. They always manage to lift our little country into the stratosphere against the odds
Just watch โฆit will happen โฆ.. Believe.
Itโs rugby for Gods sake. A minority sport with no more than 4 realistic contenders for World Cup
Irish โknobsโ from โknobโschools. Athletes ur ah!!
New Zealand is population wise around the same size as Ireland, so whatโs the big deal?
Because it is their national sport. Rugby comes way behind GAA and soccer in Ireland. So their rugby playing population is far bigger.
If you have to ask thereโs no point.
@Paraic McDonagh: Ha, Iโm not at all miserable and I really enjoyed the game. The fact remains that Ireland and Italy are the only two countries out of the top ten rugby nations that have never reached the last four of a world cup. They reached the quarter-finals in 1987.
@Celtic_Horizon: What other sports are we amazing in? Serious question.
They teach English grammar and punctuation in those schools as well.
@Veronรญca: I always get the sense that the Irish rugby team are over hyped by both the media and advertisers.
@Paul Kealy: They have only reached the quarter finals since 1987*
Punch way above our weight in lightweight rowing!
Most stories of success and achievement have guys like Paul who seem to go against the status quo and do down that success usually using the โwhat about โ argument .It a reflection of Paulโs inadequacy and immaturity ,โlook at me Iโm different so Iโm coolโ.Itโs especially crass on this story which was about the tribute the team made to the recently deceased Axel Foley.
@Paul You seem to be a very negative person and most likely very high maintenance. But as I said in my post we do have amazing athletes. The biggest sport in our country is GAA amazing doesnโt even come close to describing these guys and ladies. But to give up so much of their free time to play for free in club and inter county every year no other sport can claim to have the same passion. Then our soccer team they get lot of stick but if all the miserable haters out there stopped dishing them and look at what they are achieving at the moment is pretty special how many players do we have in top flight soccer? Fifa has more members than the UN and to be even in that top 100 is an achievement and to top it of our highest ever ranking in was 5th at one point think about 5th best in the world. Then itโs probably the rugby realistically they probably have the smallest pool of players in rugby world but yet they are always up there with the best who can forget england in Croke Park legends. Now how about minority sports how many boxing champions has Ireland had since the 80โฒs seriously competing with the likes of the US and latin American countries where boxing is in there blood we have managed some pretty amazing moments in professional and amateur boxing. Who can remember Olympics in Barcelona 92 or London 2012? Or how about our athletes in athletics. At European, world or Olympics we always manage to get few medals. Thatโs not even looking at our sailors, rowers, ufc fighters (in case u didnโt know we have pretty big call there), our cricket team with some big upset results in recent years and just about every other sport Iโm sure we would have someone in there so ya I believe we have some really AMAZING athletes.
Sorry edit it wasnโt 5th it was 6th
Donโt forget the golfersโฆโฆ.
Same as hurling then !!!! :-)
OMG forgot them Padraig Harrington and his AMAZING achievement in 2008 and we just seem to be getting better and better at the moment
@Bob Woodward: BOOM thats a smack down of a comment Bob Woodward. I love it sums up exactly what i was thinking , there is always a miserable git who wants to put a damper on things.
So Paul Wales have reached the WC semi finals twice ,1987 and 2011, they got beaten out the gate by Australia yesterday who in turn were well beaten by NZ twice in the last few months.So are Wales a better team than Ireland NOW because they reached a world cup semi in the Past ,
Donโt feed the troll!! It just keeps coming back like a stray catโฆ.
@Celtic_Horizon: Negative, not at all, high maintenanceโฆlol if only. The thing is I donโt buy into media and advertising hype or that we are so amazing. There are millions of sports people in amateur sports throughout the world who give their free time week in and week out to play at amateur level. Passion in sport is universal, it is certainly not unique to Irish participants. As for rugby and the small country argument etc if you take the amount of people playing rugby as a proportion of the general population as well, we emerge as a very keen rugby playing nation. Take a look at the proportion of the general population of the most successful rugby nations who actually actively take part in playing rugby:
England โ 4.9%
Ireland โ 3.35%
New Zealand โ 3.1%
Wales โ 1.65%
South Africa โ 1.25%
Scotland โ 0.72%
France โ 0.48%
Australia โ 0.39%
Italy โ 0.1%
Rugby union is a game played by a very small proportion of the population in any country, but in England, Ireland and New Zealand is disproportionately popular.
The Irish football team were ranked 6th in 1993, 23 yrs ago. Wales were ranked 8th last year, a country with a population of 3 million.
I would have thought boxing was in Irish blood also no?
@Bob Woodward: Bob I enjoyed the New Zealand game. I thought it was a thoroughly well deserved victory and hugely enjoyable. If it is different or cool not to be a realist and not buy into media advertising spin or the usual Irish hype, so be it. Although I would suggest you ask again who is more immature or inadequate (and insecure), someone stating that a sports team has never reached a world cup final in or a grown adult, getting offended and taking personal insult with that? I am not sure what the late great Axel Foley has to do with my comment about world cup semi finals or did you just throw that in there to add effect?
@Brian Hackett:
I donโt know if wales are better than Ireland at rugby, what difference does it make and why compare Ireland to Walesโฆbecause of population?
โGitโ You are so upset and angry with a stranger on a screen who said Ireland have never reached a rugby world cup semi finalโฆman, think about that, how old are you.
@Paul Kealy: what media advertising??? do you want the media to ignore the match,You are whataboutery merchant , look at your comment above for evidence. Ireland havenโt reached a world cup semi , yes that is a fact , i dont dispute that . What i do dispute is using it the play down a great victory yesterday. This could be a step along the way to a world cup semi or final in 2019, so cheer up things the future is bright , dont dwell in the past
@Bob Woodward:
Inadequacy:
The state or quality of being inadequate; lack of the quantity or quality required.
inability to deal with a situation or with life.
Bob. You copy and paste every link of every post you comment on here into your FacebookโฆIt seems you spend hours every day congratulating yourself on your sharp wit and keen observational skills yet not one person ever seems to agree. Why on earth would you do that? Very mature of you. Are you sure you dont think you are cool and different Bob?
@Bob Woodward: Bob rugby seems to get a disproportionate amount of air time from the media and it is overwhelmingly positive when not always deservedly so. The furore over this Irish team is nauseating and there seems to be a never ending reverence applied to the Irish rugby team, no matter what, win lose or draw. Theyโre infallible in the eyes of the media.The terminology used to describe them (this is in no way a slight on the players, or the game, rather my gripe is with the mediaโs treatment of the sport) is frequently along the lines of โheroes, legends etcโ . I remember someone even suggested POC getting injured was the sporting equivalent of Mick Collins being shotโฆ.and you say I want to be cool and different, youโre a gas man Bob ;)
I said it was a great victory Bob, I also said they have never reached the semi finals of a world cup.
I am very cheerful :)
@Brian Hackett:
โBoomโโฆโSmackdownโ WWF??
Easy fella. How old are youโฆand why are you so upset over a game, a sport.
Name one other sporting amateur organisation in the world that is a well set up as GAA and has itโs OWN stadiums in more than one country
@Celtic_Horizon: Huh? Not sure what you are going on about the GAA for? All I said was that the Irish rugby team have never reached the semi finals of a world cup, what has the GAA got to do with anything?โฆBut anyway, since you asked, โamateurโ is not entirely accurate in the true sense of the word. We can start with the managers and coaches who are attached to club teams up and down the country, the vast majority of whom get paid a fee for every training session and match day they have. The majority of inter county managers also get paid for their services. The figures can vary enormously but range from โฌ40,000 to โฌ100,000 when we throw in all those โmaterial rewards and benefit in kindโ which cover a multitude. If we assume that between football and hurling there are 40 paid managers and they average about โฌ50,000 a head all in it brings us to โฌ2,000,000. Other straws in the wind regarding the abuse of finance for GAA activities are harder to prove but they certainly exist. Several players have been financially rewarded to transfer to different club teams for example. The likes of Dublin GAA have received millions in recent years, not to mention the millions more in sponsorship they rake in. So all in all it would be more accurate to state that the GAA is a slightly amateur organisation.
Do you work for the GAA or something, is that it? Do you want, a pat on the back from a stranger on a screen?โฆOK, well done, the GAA is a very well run organisation and you do a great job, itโs also brilliant that they have their own stadiums in more than one country. Fair play to ye, ye are only brilliant. There ya go :)
@Celtic_Horizon: โBut to give up so much of their free time to play for free in club and inter county every year no other sport can claim to have the same passion.โ
Thats not true also. Billions (Not thousands) of people of all ages give up their time every week to play football (soccer) throughout the globe for the love of the game also. 2.6 billion play amateur soccer world wide, in local leagues, school cups, pub leaguesโฆ.the list is endless and they are hugely passionate about the game so it is not true that no other sport can claim to have such passion. By the way most of the league of Ireland lads train hard and dedicate their lives to football also even though most of them are on no more than they would get on the dole
@Celtic_Horizon: โno other sport can claim to have the same passion.โโฆ What about the Olympics and all the amateur athletes there, are you suggesting they are not passionate? :)
Some ppl are just never happy. Hate bloody trolls
@Celtic_Horizon: Now you are resorting to the old โtrollโ nugget because you cant retort or debate and you feel sillyโฆ.yet you were all talk earlier, what happned? :) A troll would generally attempt to rise a stranger for a reaction, I am offering my genuine opinion because you asked me and I have answered your questions. That and I coulndโt care less about you but as you went to the trouble of getting really upset and writing me a long post I thought it polite to reply to all your questions. Now you are angry again because you cant really debate anything unless you want to look like you are contradicting yourself so of course I am a troll :)
Iโm fairly happy with my lot actually, though I suspect my definition of happiness differs to yours. If I was to measure my happiness by sporting results and get really really happy over a game in America or indeed really angry because someone wounded my pride or jingoistic sporting patriotisimโฆwell I guess that would suggest I am unhappy and use sporting occasions to escape my otherwise deep unhappinessโฆ..like you perhaps?
@John R: Letโs not spew bull crap here now,New Zealandโs rugby population is not far bigger than Irelands. 156893 registered rugby players in New zealand, to 153080 registered rugby players in Ireland. Very small difference.
@Celtic_Horizon: Oh and I hate โbloodyโ idiots who run away shouting โtroll!!!โ when they have nothing else to say and get owned on a screenโฆ.give it up, you are begging to embarrass yourself.
@Paul Kealy: Hi Paul do you want a bigger shovel?
@Veronรญca: 111 years, to win a rugby matchโฆ.thats all ye waited for, really?
@Kerry Blake: Hi Kerry, for what exactly. To help you with the big hole youโre about to fall into? :)
@Martin Quinn: Good man MartinโฆHow did I lose and how am I a begrudger? โฆ Iโm Irish and said it was a well deserved win and I thoroughly enjoyed the game. Are you OK hun?
@Martin Quinn: @Martin Quinn: Martin, I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better retort than that.
Martin, name calling in a debate is called Ad Hominem (Personal Attack) The first person to use it automatically forfeits the debate unless they can follow up with a cogent explanation for why they called someone else a troll. So since you are the one attacking my character and not my belief by definition you are the troll not I.
The Irish rugby team havenโt reached a world cup semi final, and being reminded of that is enough to upset you so much? Why on earth are you so angry? I pity you if you ever have to confront real problems :(
Get a life man
@Martin Quinn: Oh go away you fool
I think that was a perfect tribute to a great man. Himself and Jonah no doubt enjoyed a few pints watching down on a great game.
Jerry Collins too
Axel would have been smiling for sure up above. Eire Abu!!
Axel was smiling & alive in our hearts right there.
So proud of you all
Yeโre a credit to yeโre families and country.
Irelandโs call was answered
How long before we can claim to have been one of the 2.2 million Irish in the stadium?
Well Iโm flying to London today and going to land in Dublin at the same time as the team, will be wearing the Irish rugby jersey through arrivals and seeking out Tony OโDonoghue for a chatโฆ..
I met a fella on the pub last night who was there, and he was in the GPO in 1916 as well.
@John Considine: it was lovely to meet you last night!
Murray , hope you enjoy the night . Congrats on a superb run-in to the big day ( two weeks early !) . The series from down under is an eye opener to say the least . But Ireland are on their way towards a more consistent top four placement in world rankings thanks to the players , the structures and some superb coaching . Roll on Dublin in 2 weeks , gotta back it up now !
Legends all!!
The fact that Ireland beat a battle hardened side after a tri-nations with only 3 collective training sessions makes the achievement even more incredible. Great gesture to Axel backed up with an unfailingly brave, committed and skilful performance.
THANK YOU ANTHONY, THE 16th MAN ON THE TEAM TODAY
Rest in peace
Wow that was special. Game, result, anthem, everything! Bloody proud
great respect shown by ireland for the late anthony foley im sure he was looking down on you all today.with a pint of the black stuff in hand great performance from you all in the green jersey you did all of us proud.
No chance weโd lose
Please please start this as a new tradition every we time we face the haka
Thatโs what I was thinking. It worked once!
Never doubted it for a minute
Serious imagineโฆmighty stuff lads great for Irish rugby and the family
Brilliant tribute to a true legend of Munster and Irish rugby. Great display by our green army.
Big congratulations to the IRFU for actually putting a team and strategy together to make something that seemed impossible, โHappenโ surely itโs time for the FAI to be held accountable and get people in that knows about the sport to decide whatโs needed to develop the skills needed to bring it to this level..โJohn Deleany out โ NOW โ..
A great touch thatโs a proper way to face up to the haka!!!
Not forgetting the excellent The Journal coverage from Chicagoโฆ.for those of us with a hundred TV channels but unfortunately not the one showing last nightโs IRL v NZAB match.
Great performance,great result and great for the foley family .
Brilliant
Great match history in the making.
โฆmighty happy to see my worst fears were unfounded , no slight to the players just felt preparation time was very short against a team on such a hot streak โฆwonderful to witness โฆpity had to drive to the nearest pub showing the game , what a shambles to let this one slip by Sky who seem to dominate all such events ..many people would love to have this recorded to look back on โฆ.well done to all & propose Joe be made an honorary Irish citizen as soon as he arrives back โฆ
He doesnโt need to be given an honourary citizenship, he got a proper one about a year ago! He was at the same ceremony as Strauss.
He is an Irish citizen!!!
Anyone know anywhere I can watch it back?
@Jen Doyle: Itโs on YouTube, FULL game (highlights also showing just the tries)
Anthony Foley played against the All Blacks 15 years ago where the All Blacks won 40-29.
Wow thatโs amazing Thanks for sharing Anthony
Would love to know who came up with the Axel tribute, fantastic idea.
Joe the jenius
Plenty of nonsense spouted here from regulars over the last few days but as usual nowhere to be seen now.
Weโre all here.
Why did ye say Joey carbery is at the front?,ye Seem to want to name him at every opportunity!!!
Well if you look at it there are 6 at the front but the media seem to want to push him to the front the whole time,the story was suppose to be about the Munster players and axel
Darragh, Ireland were playing. IRELAND.
I reckon they left us win because of Brexit
BOD and his ilk must be raginโ