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As it happened: Huddersfield Town vs Man United, Premier League

Huddersfield welcomed Manchester United to Kirklees Stadium aiming to earn their third league win of the season.

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Kick off is at 3.00pm.

Huddersfield welcome Jose Mourinho’s side to Kirklees Stadium attempting to not only curb a poor run of form which has seen them take just a solitary point from their last 15 on offer, but also in the process bring an end to Manchester United’s unbeaten start to the season.

United recorded their second consecutive Champions League win midweek thanks to Marcus Rashford’s winner against Benfica — aided by  an unholy error by 18-year-old goalkeeper Mile Svilar.

Following last weekend’s dour 0-0 draw with Liverpool in the Premier League, Mourinho’s side are now two points adrift of Manchester City in second spot and will be adament to bridge the gap sooner rather than later.

Huddersfield, meanwhile, sit 13th win two wins from 8 games back in the top flight.

The last time these sides met was in March 1972. Read more about their last encounter, featuring one George Best, here.

Kick-off for today’s meeting is just under 45 minutes away, with team news coming thick and fast…

Here are today’s teams:

Huddersfield: Lossl, Smith, Jorgensen, Schindler, Lowe, Hogg, Williams, Ince, Mooy, Kachunga, Depoitre.

Subs: Malone, Sabiri, Coleman, Cranie, van La Parra, Mounie, Hadergjonaj.

Man United: De Gea, Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young, Ander Herrera, Matic, Lingard, Mata, Martial, Lukaku.

Subs: Romero, Lindelof, Blind, Rashford, Mkhitaryan, Darmian, McTominay.

Just 10 minutes to go before kick-off.

In today’s early kick-off Chelsea managed to turn a 2-1 deficit against Watford into a dramatic 4-2 win, as Antonio Conte’s side battled hard late on when it looked like they might have suffered another home defeat this season at Stamford Bridge.

The win leaves them in fourth spot with a game in hand on all of Tottenham, Man United and Man City ahead of the rest of this weekend’s games.

We’re underway…

A very positive start from Huddersfield as a cracking atmosphere wraps around the Kirklees Stadium.

David Wagner is not known for a defensive style or philosophy, and the German will certainty have told his players not to sit back and allow Manchester United’s attacking talents come at them.

They have taken the front foot inside the opening few minutes.

Chance! Romelu Lukaku has the game’s first sight at goal as Matic feeds a through ball to the Belgian, who in turn forces a fine low save from goalkeeper Lössl with this afternoon’s first shot on target.

It’s all kicking off now as Anthony Martial and Tommy Smith come together in a heated exchange off the ball. There is a yellow card for both players from referee Lee Mason.

The French winger took exception to a sliding challenge from the Huddersfield defender, before having a slight kick at his opponent in return.

A second booking for the hosts as Christopher Schindler finds his way into referee Mason’s book for a challenge on the left wing which gives United a free-kick in a promising position.

It’s a poor free-kick which flies out of touch. Ashley Young tried to find Romelu Lukaku breaking free at the back post, but the set-piece delivery left a lot to be desired. A very feisty opening with three yellow cards in the space of 10 minutes.

Martial with yet another foul — his third of the afternoon so far. He earns the boos and jeers of the home supporters and surely won’t receive another warning before being sent off by referee Mason.

Some better play from United as the relentless and at times toxic atmosphere between the two sets of teams continues.

Lukaku is involved in every attacking move for United in the final third. Ashley Young tries to find the Belgian with another cross, but the ball falls on the edge of the area to Ander Herrera who slams an effort wide of the post.

What looked like a promising break on the counter from United broke down rather aimlessly.

It was a 3 v 2 situation, however Anthony Martial’s final ball was not precise and was hoofed clear following some last-ditch backpeddling from David Wagner’s overstretched defence.

Phil Jones has gone down injured after what looks like like pulling a muscle. He will be replaced shortly.

Substitution for Man United: Victor Lindelöf replaces Phil Jones.

Space opens up for Nemanja Matić but the Serbian hoofs a poor effort flying over the top of the crossbar.

GOAL! HUDDERSFIELD 1-0 MAN UNITED (MOOY 28)

The Kirklees Stadium erupts as Huddersfield Town lead Manchester United in the first top-flight meeting of the pair in over 40 years.

It’s a brilliant break from the hosts at pace — Tom Ince sees his first effort saved brilliantly by David de Gea, but the Spanish goalkeeper can do nothing about the rebound which flies into the back of the net.

A sweet, sweet strike from Mooy inside the box which gives his side the lead and sets this game up nicely, forcing United to once again come at them if they want to avoid a first defeat of the season. Woof.

GOAL! HUDDERSFIELD 2-0 MAN UNITED (DEPOITRE 33)

They’ve doubled the lead! Huddersfield are in utter dreamland now as Laurent Depoitre slides the ball into the back of the net as De Gea is beaten twice in the space of five minutes.

A long ball fired out of defence is simply not dealt with by substitute Lindelof. He really should have simply headed the ball back where it came from, however the young defender let the ball drop only to see Depoitre take it off him and fire it into the back of the net.

Incredibly, it’s 2-0.

There are claims for a penalty from United following a challenge from Kachunga on Ander Herrera inside the area. Referee Lee Mason waves play on, however United supporters are adamant they should have gotten a spot-kick.

Completely end-to-end.

Substitution for Huddersfield: Rajiv van La Parra replaces Elias Kachunga.

Man United enjoying a spell of possession which sees Juan Mata fouled by Jonathan Hogg. They are really just trying to get on with this, playing the resulting free-kick short and getting the ball back into their cycle of passing to and fro.

Mourinho will want the deficit halved heading into the break, with Huddersfield currently camped inside their own half warding off any advances as they pine for the sound of the referee’s whistle to end the half and bring a few moments rest.

Chance for a third in stoppage time as the ball almost finds Tom Ince on the edge of the area — Juan Mata with the vital interception at the last possible moment.

A succession of corners for United as Jose Mourinho makes his way into the dressing room — he has seen enough.

Chances come and go, however Juan Mata’s stinging effort from range is the closest, but still of no avail as Huddersfield cling on to their two goal cushion heading into the interval.

HALF-TIME: HUDDERSFIELD 2-0 MAN UNITED

We’re back underway…

Substitution for Man United:  Henrikh Mkhitaryan replaces Anthony Martial.

Substitution for Man United: Marcus Rashford replaces Juan Mata.

Two big changes at the break from Jose Mourinho.

He headed down the tunnel before the half-time whistle and will undoubtedly still have three points in mind, bringing on attacking replacements for both Martial and Mata –neither of whom impressed in any great way in the opening 45 minutes.

Some good work from van La Parra thundering down the right wing. He reaches the byline but can’t manage to steer his cross into the box. Huddersfield still going for a third despite their two goal cushion.

Ashley Young attempts a pile-driver from range on his left foot, however the effort was always flying wide of the post.

A piece of fine, slow, steady build-up play from United ends in a terrible, uninspiring shot from Marcus Rashford which barely graces the side-netting.

The passing was slick and precise, however the young England striker lost his composure for a moment and hit a poor effort wildly spinning wide and rising over the crossbar.

Frustration is beginning to grow for the visitors as, on the opposite end of the spectrum, belief grows and grows for the hosts that three points could be within reach with just over half an hour to go.

United do well to earn a free-kick, however a delivery at the front post from Rashford sees Ander Herrera flagged for offside.

Ashley Young is booked for a deliberate tug of the shirt which gives Huddersfield a free-kick in a very promising position.

Chance! The free-kick is cleared at the first hurdle, however it falls to the edge of the area where a shot from range ignites calls for a penalty inside Kirklees Stadium.

Referee Mason waves play on as Huddersfield continue to go gunning for a third. They’re not stopping, they’re not giving up and the crowd are eating it up.

C-c-c-chance! Well, sort of. Almost – van La Parra takes possession inside the penalty box. He tries to slam the ball into an inviting bottom corner of David De Dea’s goal but a mass of red jerseys stand in his way.

The 26-year-old tries to maneuver his body around Chris Smalling, however the England defender does brilliantly to stand his ground, re-gain possession and ward off any threat of a third goal for Huddersfield.

Goalscorer Mooy is given a yellow card by referee Lee Mason after catching Antonio Valencia with a late sliding challenge.

Substitution for Huddersfield: Steve Mounie replaces Laurent Depoitre

Chance! Better again from United as Rashford feeds a killer ball to Lukaku. The Belgian has to stretch and just before he can make any sort of proper contact with the ball goalkeeper Lössl does well to come from his line and gather.

Time seems to be running out for United. They are enjoying a dominant period of possession, however given the chance David Wagner’s side are willing, able and happy to hit them on the break looking for a third goal which would surely wrap up the three points.

It’s do or die for Jose Mourinho’s side now with 15 minutes to go. Are United on their way to a first Premier League defeat of the season?

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GOAL! HUDDERSFIELD 2-1 MAN UNITED (RASHFORD 78)

It’s all to play for now! Marcus Rashford halves the deficit with a fine header following some industrious work from Romelu Lukaku to maintain possession along the right wing and then hook in an inviting cross.

United are pushing and pushing in search of an equaliser. The atmosphere is rocking as it has done from the first minute. Huddersfield aren’t looking for a third anymore and are clinging for dear life onto their one goal lead with just under 10 minutes to go.

That said Huddersfield pile players forward as they catch United napping! The move breaks down eventually when it looked like they might just test De Gea for a final time

Now we resume the normal formation of the hosts sitting back absorbing pressure and Romelu Lukaku and Marcus Rashford running around like madmen with absolutely nothing but a goal on their minds.

Deary me! It was so close to a third for Huddersfield and that would have been it.

Substitute van La Parra broke on the counter, forcing David De Gea to play the role of sweeper keeper.

The ball wasn’t properly cleared from the goalkeeper, however, but the Dutch forward couldn’t just regain his balance to slot the ball into an empty net as United bodies flooded back in panic to regain possession and end the danger.

There will be four minutes of addition time to come.

Huddersfield are just about hanging on but at the same time showing a lot of composure to keep possession when they have it, stroking the ball from player to player amid incredible pressure as United continue to hunt them down in packs.

An incredible block! And that might be it. The ball fell to Marcus Rashford and with the goal at his mercy he picked out a corner of Lössl’s net only to see the body of Jørgensen block down the attempt heroically.

FULL-TIME: HUDDERSFIELD 2-1 MAN UNITED

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:33 PM

    The IOC have previously said that this is about sport and not about politics. While this atrocity should be remembered it should not be part of the games itself otherwise it would lead to a precedent where everybody would be looking for a minutes silence for something.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:45 PM

    True except this actually happened at the Olympics

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:01 PM

    Again the IOC reasoning is that it happened during the Olympics and not actually at the Olympics (even thought the initial assault was in the Olympic village). This is why they are proposing that a remembrance ceremony takes place at the airfield where the athletes lost their lives. As the deaths occurred off site this would give way to things like a minutes silence for the 30th anniversary of Bloody Sunday etc. So where does it all end? That apparently is the reasoning behind their decision which I think makes sense when you think about it.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:46 PM

    How would it lead to calls for remembering Bloody Sunday etc, did that take place at an Olympics? No it didn’t. The IOC have a lot to answer for. The lack of security at the athletes village in Munich allowed the Black September terrorists to get in so easily in the first place. And the reasoning that it occured offsite is the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard. Had the Germans accepted Israeli help it would’ve been ended in the Olympic village. Sadly the Germans, who had no specialist counter terrorism force at the time, opted to implement their own poorly thought out plan and the kack handed attempt at a rescue allowed the terrorists time to murder the Israelis. The Israelis would not have been there were it not for the Olympics. The least the IOC should do is remember the anniversary of the murder of the innocent members of the Israeli delegation. That they continued on with the Munich Olympics was disgraceful, yes they had a memorial service in Munich – one which most arab countries refused to attend – but to refuse to remember it on the 40th Anniversary in London is a disgrace.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:39 PM

    Brian, who said its about politics? It’s about 11 murdered athletes. Save the criticism for the black September movement who carried out this crime.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:41 AM

    Declan who was I criticizing? I was stating the position of the IOC that has been in the media over the last 2 or 3 months. If you think that I have no criticism of the Black September movement then why did I use the word “atrocity”?

    The attack was a politically motivated act and so politics does come into this. As a result IOC officials cite 5.50.3 of the Olympic Charter to rule out a further minutes silence at these games. What the pro-commemoration lobby won’t tell you is that there has already been a minutes silence for this atrocity. That happened in 1972 and there is a commemoration every games since. A member of the Israeli OC has even come out against the idea saying that it would be divisive.

    That is the IOC position and I have merely restated their position so if you have a problem with that take it up with the IOC not me.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:59 PM

    First of all he didn’t say “forget about it” he said that they would be commemorated at a different event. Secondly Israeli injustice in Palestine does not mean innocent Jews being killed is ok. It sounds as if you’re using the plight of the Palestinians as a platform to promote an antisemitic message.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:48 PM

    Barry, I’m not sure you know the history of the Munich games or the plotting and the fact that the Munich Olympic committee were told to take extra precautions because they heard that there may be an incident, but they did not.
    However, eleven men, forget that they were Israeli, were killed that day. Men with families and loved ones. After the massacre happened, the Olympics continued on. Joe Hermens, a Dutch distance runner dropped saying,”you give a party and someone is killed at that party, you go home.”. The wife of one of the murdered athlete went to the Olympic games following 1972, but her husband memory was never honored. The eleven men who came and peace and went home dead were never given justice. Would it really hurt to give just ONE MINUTE of silence? Put politics aside, if this was your country, or your relative, how would you feel?

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:28 PM

    There should be some kind of ceremony for the victims of the cowardly terrorist outrage.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:59 PM

    He said there would be.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:29 PM

    Indeed he did but not in London or during the games !

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:55 PM

    And he gave clear reasons why there would not be one I’m London at the games. Clearly, the feeling is that adding a remember wince to the ceremony may be seen as a provocation and as proof of political bias. Personally, I think this concern is justified. The Orangemen marches are also acts of remembrance, they also provoke conflict rather than dissipate it.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:48 PM

    This actually crossed my mind a few months back and I thought to myself, they will definately try and take advantage of this. Yes I said take advantage of this.

    How many Palestinians have been murdered / tortured / incarcerated / mamed in the Gaza concentration camp since Munich? What dates are allowed to be remembered? No because the 21st century Holocaust will not be televised.

    Alot has changed since WW2 and Munich – There isnt a need for a “We should never forget” media push anymore. Israel is one of the strongest countries in the world since it has infused itself into the top tiers of the US government. Pity has become a useful tool for certain zionists.

    We should remember ALL tragedies. I deplore all violence. But we must move on.
    It has become so obvious in recent decades that zionists use tactics like this. If we mark this event, then we must mark every event.

    Anti-gentilism is just as bad as anti-semitism.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:51 PM

    When you use the word Zionist, it is all I need to see to know you have a completely blinkered outlook, blaming Israel for all ills in the world. This has nothing to do with Gaza, this is about the murder of innocent Israeli athletes in the Munich Olympics by Palestinian terrorists of the Black September Movement and the failure of the IOC to remember them. There can never be any justification for what the terrorists did.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:47 PM

    MTurner, I sincerely hope you are just trying to get a rise with those comments & don’t actually believe that nonsense you are spouting.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:05 PM

    Your idea of atonement is disgusting to say the least, Mr Basstard

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 9:11 PM

    He should be made to stand down now, not in twelve months time, how do these men, get into such positions of power, eg F I f A , another nutter.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:33 PM

    The President of the US, Canada and Italy among many more have called on the Olympic movement to take a moments silence. The Olympic movement have been shameful in their lack of any commemoration ever since that awful massacre. Two billion people will be watching the opening ceremony. How many will be watching an airfield? Perhaps if they had marked this shameful stain on the Olympics before now this would not be necessary but to say that it is not appropriate is a disgrace. It is not a matter that it was Israeli or Jewish athletes it is a matter of rememberance and respect for an act of terror which took 11 Olympians lives on this the 40th anniversary.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:58 PM

    I totally agree with you there Nicky. Also, it only one minute! Why is SO much fuss being made about one minute? Surely that one minute’s silence isn’t going to really detract from the opening ceremony of the Olympics.

    The impact from that horrific massacre, on the Olympics 40 years ago, most certainly would have dampened the mood of the Olympics. Therefore, to say that a minute’s silence in the opening ceremony is going to spoil things is totally outrageous!!!!

    As you say, Nicky “It is not a matter that it was Israeli or Jewish athletes, it is a matter of remembrance and respect for an act of terror which too 11 Olympians lives on this 40th Anniversary”

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:51 AM

    Except the bit where it’s not the anniversary, obviously.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:27 PM

    these people were murdered at the Olympic games in the Olympic village. Putting politics aside, if a footballer dies in a match what is done? Hillsborough disaster what was done? minute silence. If the Olympic comity had had memorial at the games or the games after then for PEOPLE murdered all this would not really reoccur every 4 years. Now it has become such a political issue people threaten to boycott. I guarantee you now that the same people who have the issue with it will refuse to play an Israeli team. I agree remember all tragedies and try and learn from them , this one happened at the Olympics so seems natural to remember it at the event where it occurred ,, common sense really. A compromise would be to have ceremony in Olympic stadium and have no flags or team uniforms,, come to think about it how about Olympics without countries just sporting events no national teams,,,,, and then may the true Olympic spirit prevail.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:28 AM

    The Olympics in itself are about bringing people together so that these atrocoties dont happen in the future. Lets use every minute to make it work, not stay silent

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:31 PM

    Barry, you should change your first name to “Bad” or “Shameful”

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:45 PM

    Jesus if we had a minutes silence for the amount of atrocities being perpetrated on a daily basis world wide, there would be infinite silence….. Bloody world is doomed and I am an optimist.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:26 PM

    “We feel that the opening ceremony is an atmosphere that is not fit to remember such a tragic incident,”

    If this is the case then somebody needs to explain to me why we continue to hold minute silences at football games for Hillsborough as recently as this very year, as well as the Manchester United Munich disaster and honouring the victims of non-sporting tragedies like Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

    “Oh, but that was a long time ago. This is supposed to be a joyous event.” is not an excuse, it’s a cop out. I sincerely doubt that a moments silence will set a melancholy tone for the duration of the games. The only thing that can accomplish that is unpredictable English weather.

    Dragging the Palestinian conflict into it is neither fish nor fowl in the context of this event but that has never stopped the usual “experts” on TJ from using it as a launch pad for their all-too-predictable verbal effluvia against all things Israeli let alone the IDF.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:39 PM

    Barry,

    They do a minutes silence for accidents and disasters. Not for terrorist acts, political motivations, power lobbies etc.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:47 PM

    Ah, so when nobody is to blame it’s ok. I see…

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:08 AM

    Which Barry is that, Declan? :)

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 10:55 PM

    It’s obviously a hugely contentious issue. I’d just prefer the opening ceremony to be all sunshine and light. I don’t think its the ideal mood setter to do it during the opening ceremony. Was it done at any previous opening ceremonies? Barcelona 92 etc? I can’t recall. Anyone?

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:33 PM

    That’s the point. It’s never been done and now it has been 40 years. It’s about time something is done.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:53 PM

    Minutes silences are commonplace inside and outside sport.
    The problem here is it’s Israel.This is an issue concerning them and the OC-other issues are seperate.
    Click your dislike buttons all you like about anything to do with Israel,but be honest about why you’re doing it.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:06 AM

    Dassie there was a minutes silence for the attack in 1972 and a commemoration every games since. Also every games invariably carries a story about the Munich attack so it is for from forgotten.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:15 PM

    Would the reasoning for not commemorating these murdered athletes have something to do with Arab countries objecting? The IOC don’t want to offend Arab countries participating? Can the journal check this? In sporting events when tragedy happens it gets commemorated! Shame on the IOC.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:42 PM

    You know well its nothing to do with ‘Arab countries’.
    Your suggestion and reason behind it is obvious.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:46 PM

    Nobody knows well if it was Arab leaders or not and maybe nobody ever will. All I know is that God forbid the leaders of certain belligerent states would remain still for the sake of Israeli honour.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:49 PM

    No I don’t know that’s why I asked the journal.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:05 AM

    Seemingly, any athletes who refuse to compete against Israelis (and THIS is where politics actually comes into it) will be disciplined. I’ll believe that if/when it happens.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:48 PM

    Arab countries & more importantly Arab money.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:37 PM

    Why not a minutes silence for all those innocents murdered by any weapon and to express our wish for the elimination of all killing weapons in the hands of either citizens or governments.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:42 AM

    The IOC and those who support their decision appear to be very short-sighted – not for Israel, but for their own future. If there is a terror attack at the London Olympics, they would be committed to NOT holding a minute’s silence for any victims.

    The west made the same mistake when it comes to solving the Middle East conflict. Instead of zero tolerance of Palestinian terrorism, the west made excuses – in the media and in government policy. The west is paying the price for that now, in its own war on terrorism, and in the lack of a solution to the ME conflict.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 3:24 AM

    Yeah zero tolerance of Palestinian terrorism and blind eyes to the terrorisation of Palestinians in their own country, because that’s worked really well so far.

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:33 PM

    @ Richard Keogh,

    I use the word Zionist (And mention GAZA) as they are the people who are pushing for this. Ordinary decent Jews want to move on from this and not have a soccer tourament, world games or any NON political platform used as a tool to drum up pity. I have Jewish friends and they are sick to the their back teeth of this. They want to move on.

    I dont have a blinkered outlook on the world and I do NOT blame Israel for the wrongs in the world. My jewish friends in Israel and elsewhere in the world are embarresed to be represented in such a manor.

    As its been said above, remember this elsewhere, not some grandstanding infront of 2 billion people, which is exactly what certain people want.

    Respect should be shown for the victims and their poor familes but not by false political means.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:02 AM

    have to agree with @mturners points

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:33 AM

    Consider the precedent – There has been a moment of silence at the Olympics remembering a dead athlete – Nodar-Kumaritashvilis.

    But of course he wasn’t an Israeli, so no-one objected to doing the morally correct thing.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:58 AM

    After the Munich attack the games were suspended for the first time in modern history, 80,000 spectators and 3,000 athletes attended a memorial service and flags of most countries were flown at half mast. Nodar-Kumaritashvilis didn’t get that.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 2:14 AM

    Brian – “After the Munich attack the games were suspended for the first time in modern history, ”

    The games should have been stopped. Dutch distance runner Jos Hermens as saying, “You give a party, and someone is killed at the party, you don’t continue the party. I’m going home.”

    “80,000 spectators and 3,000 athletes attended a memorial service and flags of most countries were flown at half mast.”

    Which countries wouldn’t have their flags at half-mast? Oh yes, that’s right. Arab countries.

    ” Nodar-Kumaritashvilis didn’t get that.” Nodar-Kumaritashvilis wasn’t murdered simply for being who he is.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 3:39 AM

    You don’t hold a minute’s silence at a party. It’s different if it’s a fresh memory but dragging up old wounds? He had just died less than a week before the ceremony, going on without marking it would be disrespectful but periods of mourning pass. Ok let’s imagine a new years party…optimism, hope, new beginnings and just before the count-down let’s put a downer on things by reminding everyone of all the bad stuff that happened decades ago, let’s put sad images on screens and lower the flags. No! It’s a celebration, not a commemoration. They have a moment’s silence at Hillsborough but they don’t do it in the middle of a carnival atmosphere with musicians, actors, singers and dancers all somber with heads bowed. Time and a place, maybe the closing ceremony but not the opening.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 9:04 AM

    Michelle- “The games should have been stopped. ” Initially the games were going to be stopped but ” Brundage and others who wished to continue the Games prevailed, stating that they could not let the incident halt the Games.[38] Brundage stated “The games must go on, and we must… and we must continue our efforts to keep them clean, pure and honest.”[40] The decision was endorsed by the Israeli government and Israeli Olympic team chef de mission Shmuel Lalkin.[41]” (Wikipedia) Note the fact that it was endorsed by the Israeli Government and the Israeli OC, so where is the problem there?

    . “Which countries wouldn’t have their flags at half-mast? Oh yes, that’s right. Arab countries.”
    10 Arab countries out of 21 objected to their flags being flown at half mast which I think is disgraceful as politics should be kept out of sport. Not all Arab countries however carried out this act.

    Nodar-Kumaritashvilis died I a sporting accident and was commemorated as is the custom during the games for the tragic death of an athlete. As I outlined already the 11 murdered athletes didn’t just get a minutes silence, they got an unprecedented suspension of the games and the games were nearly called off. The Israeli Government backed the continuance of the games as a show of defiance against terrorism. Now at a time of great instability in the ME Israeli’s want to drag all of this up again?

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    Jul 22nd 2012, 11:33 PM

    I agree with him. The opening ceremony is not the place to hold a minute’s silence. It’s for spectacle and to set the tone for the rest of the Games.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 12:31 AM

    let the games begin…

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:37 AM

    listen to the wife of Andre on the bbc outlook program , she is as ordinary and decent a human as I have heard with no hatred and teaching her children not to hate the people who murdered their father,,
    here is the link
    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/outlook/outlook_20120719-1332a.mp3

    to say so of or want to move on after you hear this woman ,,,,,,,,,,, just for her I would stand for two minutes not one,,,

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 3:52 AM

    Fair play he’s dead right. Perhaps if the games were in Germany it’d be more fitting.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 1:40 AM

    I agree with Alex, but the forum for his action as at the un who are impotently “observing” syrians being murdered, it should be a crime against humanity to produce lethal weapons

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 7:34 AM

    London Olympics: A festival of incompetence and corruption.

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    Jul 23rd 2012, 9:17 AM

    My comment was deleted again, well done journo, nice to see you promoting free speech.

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