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'I had a fight with Patrick Vieira and got sent to the reserves': Arsenal, Vauxhall Novas and regrets

Brian McGovern spent a number of years at Arsenal and seemed on the cusp of a breakthrough under Arsene Wenger before everything changed.

THEREโ€™S ONE DISTINCT memory Brian McGovern has of Arsenal interim boss Freddie Ljungberg. 

โ€œHe was always into his fashionโ€, he begins. 

โ€œOne day he came in wearing a pair of dungarees and no top on. You know the Bushwhackers, the baldy lads doing the wrestling? He looked like one of them.โ€

Buschwackers-1-1764546971 Wrestling legends and Freddie Ljungberg's fashion inspirations, The Bushwhackers. WWE WWE

โ€œFreddie liked to make a fashion statement but could back it up. A decent player. Looking back, he was an icon because nobody was like him. He was his own product. He wasnโ€™t trying to copy anyone. And a lot of footballers try to copy other footballers. But Freddie was always himself. People followed him. So he was a leader in that way. But will he keep the Arsenal job? No. Football management now is a pain in the arse because youโ€™re a people manager and a multimedia manager. Itโ€™s not just about football. Itโ€™s about managing multiple personalities who are on millions more than you, and probably think better than you. Itโ€™s a very, very difficult job.โ€

Ljungberg is the latest of a number of Arsene Wengerโ€™s former students to move into the management world. Tony Adams, Patrick Vieira and Thierry Henry have experienced varying degrees of success while the likes of Marc Overmars and Dennis Bergkamp have been involved in slightly different roles.

McGovern played alongside all of them during a four-year stint with Arsenal. He was captain of the reserve team for a large chunk of that period and when he made his Premier League debut in May, 2000 as a second-half substitute in a 4-2 defeat against Newcastle at St Jamesโ€™ Park, it came just three weeks after heโ€™d led out the Republic of Ireland Under-21 side against Greece. 

It seemed the graft was starting to pay off. 

And then, just like that, he was gone.

And he was on the hamster wheel again.  

โ€œThereโ€™s no moment where I think, โ€˜Right, that was a mistakeโ€™โ€, he says, defiantly.  

โ€œAnd it was a blast, I have to say. Like, I thoroughly enjoyed every second. From Crumlin to Cherry Orchard to Arsenal to Ireland and everything after that. I have a mate whoโ€™s a mad Arsenal fan and he said to me recently, โ€˜You should feel privilegedโ€™. And I am. Such a big clubโ€ฆThe likes of Adams, [Ian] Wright, Bergkamp, Vieiraโ€ฆI played in so many games with them. It was nothing to me. Every week โ€“ whether it was Bristol or Liverpool or Everton โ€“ those were the players I was around regularly.โ€

โ€œI watched that goalkeeper [David Martin] the other day, who was playing in the Premier League for the first time. It was his first start and heโ€™s 33. Heโ€™d never got a chance. How many reserve games has he played? It was so emotional for him and his father. It took him that long. And thatโ€™s a little bit like how I gauge my career.โ€

McGovern was a strapping centre-back and spotted as a teenager while playing with Cherry Orchard. Arsenal scout Bill Darby liked what he saw and passed a glowing report to Liam Brady, then relatively new in his role as Head of Youth Development at Highbury. Soon enough, Brady was having tea and biscuits in the living room of McGovernโ€™s family home on Captainโ€™s Road (the posh end) in Crumlin.   

โ€œThere was myself and another player called Alan McNevin and we ended up going down to one of the hotels in Ballsbridge โ€“ I think it was the Burlington โ€“ and Brady produced the contractsโ€, he remembers. 

โ€œHe said heโ€™d give us a year each. I was heading into my Leaving Cert year and the Ma said no and the Da said, โ€˜Youโ€™re definitely goingโ€™. I think he was trying to get rid of me. But we went over, got the head down and grew up very fast.

โ€œYou could say it was a rollercoaster but at the time, Irish lads were going here, there and everywhere. Davy Freeman went to Forest, there was Andy Reid, Richard Dunne, Stephen McPhailโ€ฆ Those were the circles we moved in. Everyone was going on trial. And even with the Orchard, we went to the Milk Cup and the big thing was all of the media attention on Joe Cole. Everyone was talking about him. And I was like, โ€˜Whoโ€™s he?โ€™ It really meant nothing to us. I remember we played Borussia Dortmund and we did really well against them. We were raw, but really good. We were a top team. So I donโ€™t think the trials fazed us at all. It just seemed pretty natural.โ€

In north London, it was survival of the fittest. Competition was intense, particularly with Arsenalโ€™s underage setup boasting quite a few graduates from the FAโ€™s School of Excellence at Lilleshall. Unhelpfully for McGovern, some โ€“ like Lee Canoville and Matthew Upson โ€“ were centre-backs. He handled himself well but at the end of his first season, still faced into the genuine possibility of being culled.

And there was a ruthless ritual at Arsenal.    

โ€œWe all got told in a canteen with a revolving doorโ€, he says. 

There was fourteen of us sitting at a table. Inside the room was Don Howe, Don Givens, Liam Brady and a few others. So, youโ€™d go in one door with a cup of tea and fellas were coming past you on the way out. And they were either crying or delighted with themselves. I remember one fella was in bits, absolutely bawling his eyes out. And he says to me as heโ€™s walking past, โ€˜They said we can go back training if we wantโ€ฆor we can just go homeโ€™. And Iโ€™m thinking, โ€˜Fuck, Iโ€™m in there in a minuteโ€™. Alan [McNevin] went in ahead of me and it was a โ€˜noโ€™. He didnโ€™t get a contract.โ€

โ€œHe was a good player but it just didnโ€™t work. I remember he had a bit of a pow-wow with Brady during one game. He wasnโ€™t playing the best and Brady came in at half-time and was giving out. I remember him saying to McNevin, โ€˜Youโ€™re going home. Youโ€™re on your way outโ€™. And we started the second half, McNevin took two or three touches and put it in the top corner. And he kinda went after Brady saying, โ€˜Whoโ€™s going home?โ€™ Now, he ultimately did. But the authority figures didnโ€™t really like to be questioned. And there were six or seven fellas ready to come through behind you. After my second year, I realised, โ€˜Fuck, Iโ€™m just a number here. Theyโ€™re getting fellas in from all over the placeโ€™. You went to training and thereโ€™d be two new lads. And the first thing youโ€™d always say was, โ€˜Where do yous play?โ€™ And if they said up front or midfield, you were grand. You didnโ€™t give a shite. But in a week, you were guaranteed three or four players coming in for trials who were the next big thing.โ€

โ€œI managed to get another year. I had no agent so if I knew then what I know nowโ€ฆBut looking back, Iโ€™m glad the way I did it. It was the hard way. I never got a massive signing-on fee. It was normal wages. But if someone was there alongside me saying, โ€˜Letโ€™s get him down to Bournemouth for six or seven gamesโ€™ and then my value would have increased, maybe? But I didnโ€™t know any of that. I just hadnโ€™t got a clue. Now, it does make you work harder because you can get comfortable. But, when youโ€™re doing well, youโ€™re at the top level and you think youโ€™ll get a chance. And then the gaffer goes and signs two new centre backs. And youโ€™re thinking, โ€˜Well, heโ€™s bought this fucker for ยฃ4m? What am I worth? Nothingโ€™. And you start to have doubts about yourself. Then he has to justify signing the expensive new players and canโ€™t put them in the reserves. And you go down the pecking order again.โ€

โ€œBut when you get to the third year, you become more aware. Youโ€™re thinking, โ€˜Whatโ€™s my value? Am I doing something wrong?โ€™ Players are getting ยฃ100,000 per week. And youโ€™re saying, โ€˜Iโ€™m working my balls off and this lad gets ยฃ99,000 more than I do?โ€™ You didnโ€™t want people to take the piss. And football can be a bit like that.โ€  

Still, even without first-team opportunities McGovern was immersed in first-team training every day. He progressed to consistently rubbing shoulders with some of the most elite players in the world. And owing to his status in the group, he was afforded extremely special opportunities.

โ€œWe had a reserve game in Boreham Wood one evening and I was captainโ€, he says. 

โ€œJohn Lukic was in goal and the back-four was Nelson Vivas, Tony Adams, myself and Nigel Winterburn. This was the reserves. Up front, [Nwankwo] Kanu came on to make his debut on a real mucky pitch and he was shit. We were all looking at each other and thinking, โ€˜Who the fuck is this?โ€™ But it showed that it takes everyone some time to adapt and in a few months he was amazing. Seeing him on the training pitch, he had such great technical ability. And there were so many stars.โ€

soccer-fa-carling-premiership-arsenal-v-middlesbrough During his time at Arsenal, McGovern consistently rubbed shoulders with the likes of Dennis Bergkamp and Marc Overmars. Jon Buckle Jon Buckle

โ€œBergkamp, Overmars โ€“ they always get the spotlight. But, there were fellas like [Gilles] Grimandi in midfield too. Just terrific players. Some people will say that training is different because thereโ€™s no pressure. But take something like a crossbar challenge. These lads would hit it, it would come back to them and theyโ€™d hit it again on the volley. It was a double crossbar challenge. Just a different level. And a lot of people donโ€™t understand. I donโ€™t really talk about it. Sometimes people want to chat but itโ€™s almost to justify talking about football when they really havenโ€™t got a clue. Itโ€™s only when you look back at the people you played with and itโ€™s frightening. One game we played against Tottenham and there was about 6,000 at it. For a reserve game? You think about it sometimesโ€ฆmaybe if Iโ€™d been at a smaller club, would I still be digging out a career? But you canโ€™t tell. I just rolled the dice and went with it.โ€

I bought a car when I was seventeen. It was a brown, rusty 1983 Vauxhall Nova. The speakers in the back window were worth more. I went down to Argos, got the speakers, cut the panels out and put them up. I drove it into the training ground and all the first-team players came up shaking my hand and high-fiving me. โ€˜Oh, you crazy Irishman. We fucking love itโ€™. And Iโ€™m thinking, โ€˜What do you love about it?โ€™ They thought I was messing, acting the bollix and buying this piece of shit. It was what I could afford. You looked around the car park and there was a Lotus Ferrari, BMW, Mercedes and my โ€™83 Vauxhall Nova. But it didnโ€™t mean anything to me. And people ask me if I was in it for the money!โ€

Some memories are less sweet than others and there was one harrowing moment for McGovern in a reserve game that ensured he was on the sidelines for a prolonged period, an incident that he dwells on even now.     

โ€œI was in Boredom Wood and I was knocked out coldโ€, he says. 

โ€œMy tongue was rolled back in my throat. Colin Lewin (former Arsenal physio) joked with me afterwards because I had bitten down on his finger. But I hadnโ€™t got a clue. For about a year I was between Harley Street and London Colney doing nothing because of a contusion on the brain. And that scares you. Like, itโ€™s 3 oโ€™clock in the morning and youโ€™re getting an MRI and hearing people around you saying, โ€˜It could be a bleed on the brainโ€™. And youโ€™re thinking, โ€˜Thatโ€™s not goodโ€™. I had to go to specialist after specialist. Balance tests. But what got me through was my reading of the game. I could put two and three people into place. Almost like a chess game. I was astute like that. How a game was developing. I could close down play before something happened. That side of my game was always strong. And general fitness. I was one of those raw Dublin lads whoโ€™d run all day. If a tackle was 60-40, Iโ€™d still win it for you.โ€  

McGovernโ€™s mentor was reserve boss Geordie Armstrong, who was always there to offer a word of encouragement and who found his uncompromising centre-backโ€™s needle and aggression pretty charming, even when others didnโ€™t necessarily feel the same way.   

โ€œI didnโ€™t ask anyone to do anything I couldnโ€™t do myselfโ€, McGovern says. 

Iโ€™d run harder, longer, faster. Iโ€™d tackle and didnโ€™t give a shit who you were. I remember having a fight with Vieira and getting sent back down to the reserves because of it. We were tearing the bibs off each other during a game. The two of us went in for a tackle and he pulled the top off me, I pulled the top off of him and I ended up getting the bullet. If you have a name for yourself, it doesnโ€™t mean anything. Some lads were saying, โ€˜Thatโ€™s Vieiraโ€™. My attitude was, โ€˜I donโ€™t care who you areโ€™. Youโ€™d always get sanctioned if something happened in training but then youโ€™d talk to Geordie afterwards and heโ€™d say, โ€˜Good lad. Nothing wrong with a bit of that. Shows a bit of passionโ€™โ€. 

That attitude and talent got him in the squad for the first-teamโ€™s trip to Newcastle on 14 May, 2000. With a Uefa Cup final against Galatasaray a few days later, Wenger rested many of his big names but McGovern still shared a pitch with Davor Suker, Nigel Winterburn, Martin Keown, Kanu and another up-and-coming youngster named Ashley Cole when he entered the fray as a second-half substitute.   

โ€œAll my mates were finished school and doing trades and would say, โ€˜Jaysus, youโ€™re playing with this fella or that fellaโ€™ but I never treated anyone differentlyโ€, McGovern says.

โ€œI remember Lee Dixon coming in and looking for concealer because he had a spot on his face. I had a bit of craic with him about it and lads were saying, โ€˜Donโ€™t be slagging himโ€™. And I was like, โ€˜Donโ€™t be slagging him? What do you mean? Looking for concealer? The auld oneโ€™. I donโ€™t know if I gained respect from the lads because of that.

But I do remember getting into trouble at the Newcastle game because Sir Bobby [Robson] came out and I was like, โ€˜Howโ€™s it going?โ€™ And people were saying, โ€˜Itโ€™s SIR Bobbyโ€™ and I was saying, โ€˜Well, heโ€™s not my Sirโ€™. Thatโ€™s the way it was and people wanted to bow down. I know you have to have certain airs and graces but at the end of the day, heโ€™s just your gaffer, isnโ€™t he?โ€

brian-mcgovern-2542000 Brian McGovern, pictured before an Under-21 game against Greece. Lorraine O'Sullivan / INPHO Lorraine O'Sullivan / INPHO / INPHO

At that stage, McGovern had also captained the Republic of Ireland Under-21s and he seemed on the cusp of substantial progress.

โ€œIt was a game against Greece and it was a massive honourโ€, he says, 

โ€œIt was surreal. A moment youโ€™ll never forget. People might say, โ€˜Ah, it was only in Newbridgeโ€™. But it couldโ€™ve been in Le Fanu Park in Ballyfermot. It didnโ€™t matter. I was playing for Ireland. You put that jersey on and in your head youโ€™ve made it.โ€

But within a few weeks, he was at a different club and starting all over again.   

โ€œIt got to a crossroadsโ€, he says. 

โ€œWe came back for some behind-closed doors games and one of them was against Norwich. About two weeks later, I was told to head up to Norwich. So I drove up, into the training ground and it was, โ€˜Alright, youโ€™ve signed on loanโ€™. That was it. Done. No agent. Nothing. That became a permanent deal in the August and then about two months later, [Bryan] Hamilton was gone as manager. Iโ€™d sit in a room with Nigel Worthington (who replaced Hamilton as boss) now and weโ€™d have the craic. But when he brought me into his office, he said, โ€˜Youโ€™re a big fuck. I donโ€™t know what he [Hamilton] signed you for. I donโ€™t want you so if you want to sign for someone else, off you goโ€™. And I said, โ€˜Iโ€™ll prove you wrongโ€™. And he goes, โ€˜Okay, go and do thatโ€™. So I played a few games and I wasnโ€™t his favourite. But then it was my second season and I was number 15. Worthington said, โ€˜Iโ€™ll give you the number 2 shirt and play you at right-back because Darren Kenton is off to Southamptonโ€™. But the move didnโ€™t go ahead and I got injured. Iโ€™d been thinking, โ€˜Iโ€™m in here โ€“ Iโ€™ll slot in and get the head down and play every weekโ€™. And then the injury came, he brought in a few lads on loan and again it was a case of, โ€˜Where the fuck did this fella come from?โ€™ In football, thereโ€™s always a revolving door.โ€

โ€œBut there were some good days at Norwich. I remember a pre-season friendly against Arsenal and I played super that day. I was on fire. They had Sylvain Wiltord, Henry was playing, Vieira too. And then Celtic came down for a game and youโ€™re playing against Henrik Larsson. And I excelled, you know? And not many can say that theyโ€™ve trained with Overmars and Bergkamp and played against the likes of Larsson and Alan Shearer.โ€

norwich-v-arsenal Norwich's Brian McGovern takes on Sylvain Wiltord of Arsenal in August, 2001. PA PA

โ€œBut itโ€™s a fickle thing. The time on top of the pedestal is very brief. When youโ€™re up there, youโ€™re flying. But all I can say is that when I was up there I looked after everyone. I was never a prick to anyone. That transition was a lot easier for me. I know players who never made it but think they have. They think theyโ€™re something and alienate their friends and family. And itโ€™s a hard fall. Psychologically, itโ€™s really hard for them.โ€

For me, I did what I could do at the time. The proudest moment was when I brought the whole family to Euro Disney. I bought my Ma a car. I bought my brother a car. Looking back on those things is lovely. My brother was only seventeen and had his motor, fully insured and that got him up and down to get his trade. And when you look back on doing things like that, you realise you did something right. At least I looked after the family.โ€

After Norwich, McGovern had a stint with Peterborough before returning to Ireland with St. Patโ€™s. From there, it was off to Longford, with whom he won an FAI Cup in 2003, before a short spell with Bray Wanderers.  

Heโ€™s now based in Wexford with his wife, Nicola, and children. He runs his own fitness and conditioning studio that boasts a range of clients.

Still, thereโ€™s an itch. When it comes to football, he has an astuteness. A way of reading the game. And maybe heโ€™s not quite done with it just yet.    

barry-ferguson-and-brian-mcgovern-26102003 Brian McGovern celebrates an FAI Cup win with Longford Town in 2003. Andrew Paton / INPHO Andrew Paton / INPHO / INPHO

But regrets? Not really. 

โ€œIโ€™m blessed here now but Iโ€™d definitely like to get back acrossโ€, he says. 

โ€œItโ€™s a different beast and itโ€™s ultra professional.โ€

โ€œIn terms of regrets, Iโ€™d have loved to have played more games. Youโ€™re fit and ready and in the tracksuit. But youโ€™re on the bench or youโ€™re eating chicken goujons up in the suite. I didnโ€™t want to be eating chicken goujons and watching a match in a glass box.โ€ 

โ€œIf I had someone to look after meโ€ฆsomeone more knowledgable who had my best interests at heart. Youโ€™re young and naive. Then you start talking to other youth team players and theyโ€™ll say, โ€˜They (the club) got a house for my Ma and Da down the roadโ€™. And youโ€™re saying, โ€˜What?โ€™ And you learn that there are ways around signing-on fees. I wouldโ€™ve liked a house for my Ma and Da in London!โ€

โ€œBut I havenโ€™t suppressed the memories but when you talk about it, itโ€™s that little reminder. โ€˜Yeah, I did thatโ€™. And itโ€™s pretty cool.โ€

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    Dec 8th 2019, 10:54 AM

    I live for these Articles
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    What an interesting career

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    Dec 8th 2019, 11:33 AM

    Fair play to him, sounds like a roller-coaster ride but he did it and enjoyed it.

    Great article.

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    Dec 8th 2019, 11:43 AM

    Love these stories because itโ€™s like U or me lived it.. ordinary lads going thru extraordinary times

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    Dec 8th 2019, 12:30 PM

    @Dougal67: super article super

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    Dec 8th 2019, 12:16 PM

    Riveting article, and just goes to show how incredibly hard it is to make it at the top level. We may slag off football players, but for every Mo Salah thereโ€™s a hundred Mc Governs breaking their neck trying to make it.

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    Dec 8th 2019, 1:04 PM

    Love it,he just didnt give a fxxk to other players supposed auras

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    Dec 8th 2019, 2:35 PM

    Could do with a few players like him at Arsenal now, take down those prima donnas a peg or two

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