Advertisement
England's Tom Curry and South Africa's Bongi Mbonambi. Alamy Stock Photo

'I heard what I heard' - England's Curry stands by racial abuse claim against Mbonambi

World Rugby found ‘insufficient evidence’ to back up Curry’s claim against South Africa’s Bongi Mbonambi.

ENGLAND FLANKER TOM Curry stands by his accusation that South Africa’s Bongi Mbonambi racially abused him in the World Cup semi-final.

World Rugby found “insufficient evidence” to back up Curry’s claim that he was called a “white c***” by the Springboks player midway through the first half of the match in Paris.

Hooker Mbonambi has accused England of being “unprofessional” over the allegations, insisting “misunderstanding” arose because Curry failed to realise he was speaking Afrikaans, a common practice among the Springboks to ensure opponents do not understand their messages.

But Curry, whose girlfriend and family have since suffered online abuse, insisted “I heard what I heard.”

He said in an interview with the Daily Mail: “I didn’t really want to speak about it from the start.

“For me, on both occasions, the ball was out of play. Me and Bongi were talking and there’s no misunderstanding from my part. I went to the referee straight away. I heard what I heard. That’s all I really want to say about it and I won’t really be talking about it again.

“It was tough for my family, my girlfriend and my brother. It was a tough experience but it is what it is. The investigation’s been done and that’s all I want to say about it.”

The42 is on Instagram! Tap the button below on your phone to follow us!

Close
19 Comments
This is YOUR comments community. Stay civil, stay constructive, stay on topic. Please familiarise yourself with our comments policy here before taking part.
Leave a Comment
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Dan P
    Favourite Dan P
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 8:25 PM

    If races were reversed this would have gone down very differently

    119
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Louis Jacob
    Favourite Louis Jacob
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 8:30 PM

    @Dan P: Yes. Because context.

    23
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute brian o'leary
    Favourite brian o'leary
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 8:31 PM

    @Dan P: is it because I is white?

    60
    See 1 more reply ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Ennis
    Favourite Paul Ennis
    Report
    Nov 11th 2023, 7:38 AM

    @Dan P: Racism toward white people is just not the same. If Bongi actual said it, the only thing that Curry will have had to deal with is a small bit of Individual Racism. He can easily recover and there is certainly no ill effects on the rest of us. Tom Curry, nor any white person, has had to cope with with after effects historical oppression; we do not live with structural or institutional racims and most importantly we do not suffer from intergenerational trauma that many other Peoples do. I am very comfortable with a different type of process in this particular situation.

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Louis Jacob
    Favourite Louis Jacob
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 8:35 PM

    The English Currys have a long history of being oppressed and exploited by the blacks in fairness. I’d say it opened many wounds for him and his family.

    44
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Greg
    Favourite Greg
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:11 PM

    @Louis Jacob: even without historical context, racism ain’t nice and there is no excuse for it in any context. However, I don’t think Mbonambi was saying anything to Curry. On the overhead video, you can hear Mbonambi saying something, but it really sounds like he’s trying to alert his teammates to Farrell switching the play. He shouts “wyd kant” which is apparently wide side in afrikaans

    18
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Louis Jacob
    Favourite Louis Jacob
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:15 PM

    @Greg: Honestly I reckon Curry is only stirring. Sour grapes.

    18
    See 5 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute JaneDeer
    Favourite JaneDeer
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:21 PM

    @Louis Jacob: it was brought to the refs attention during the game so I’m guessing it wasn’t down sour grapes whatever was said!

    29
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Louis Jacob
    Favourite Louis Jacob
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:25 PM

    @JaneDeer: So why hasn’t he accepted that he misheard now that it’s been shown to be the case. He’s just acting the maggot.

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Rob O'Connor
    Favourite Rob O'Connor
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:28 PM

    @Greg: yes, I have also learnt some Afrikaans because of this incident, “wit kant” means “white side”. But anyway, I hope the all the abuse has stopped now, we’ll never know for sure what was actually said. Please, no more articles on this, just let it go away now so both players and their families can get back to their normal lives.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Ennis
    Favourite Paul Ennis
    Report
    Nov 11th 2023, 7:41 AM

    @Louis Jacob: I hope that Dan and the 108 people who liked his comment take some real time to educate themselves. Unfortunately, they probably won’t.

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Ennis
    Favourite Paul Ennis
    Report
    Nov 11th 2023, 7:45 AM

    @Greg: You are right, no need for any type of racism or abuse… but you can not compare the racism (if it was) to which Tom Curry was exposed, to the type of racism practised by white people and white institutions around the world even today

    2
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute DAVID ABBOTT
    Favourite DAVID ABBOTT
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 10:53 PM

    Ah, give over , you don’t go wingeing to the ref cos someone hurts your feelings.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute James Murphy
    Favourite James Murphy
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:38 PM

    It’s all he said she said bs, but I was just thinking I don’t think I’d be offended apart from being called a kant, which I’d just laugh at.

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute J M
    Favourite J M
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:40 PM

    @James Murphy: You absolute Immanuel Kant

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Louis Jacob
    Favourite Louis Jacob
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 9:41 PM

    @James Murphy: Exactly the point. Like you’d be upset about it.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Arjuna
    Favourite Arjuna
    Report
    Nov 11th 2023, 3:54 PM

    Its funny how Mbonambi is the one who said it (based on above, I believe Curry), yet it is Curry who most comments are directed towards. To my mind Curry has done nothing wrong, he is a young lad and simply reported it to the ref probably cause it had happened previously.. It is mbonambi who is the coward, hiding behind Afrikaans. But ultimately its a storm in a tea cup imo.

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tony Lucey Crap!
    Favourite Tony Lucey Crap!
    Report
    Nov 10th 2023, 10:30 PM

    Curry talking Crap

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tom Reilly
    Favourite Tom Reilly
    Report
    Nov 11th 2023, 12:35 AM

    Well this will eventuallly come back to bite. Every racial slur can now be deemed to be lost on translation and nobody can object.

    4
Submit a report
Please help us understand how this comment violates our community guidelines.
Thank you for the feedback
Your feedback has been sent to our team for review.

Leave a commentcancel