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Hull City's Paul McShane after their relegation from the Premier League today. Richard Sellers

Worrying times for Irish stars and more thoughts from the Premier League's finale

Also, Brendan Rodgers left red-faced and Arsenal show their considerable potential.

Updated at 08.00

1. Van Gaal praise shows the fine line between success and failure in football

IT SEEMS MORE or less to be the consensus that Louis van Gaal has brought Man United forward significantly since the ill-fated David Moyes era, however, while there have been signs of progress at Old Trafford, much work still needs to be done.

For all the millions that the Dutchman has spent since joining the club, they finished just six points better off than last season.

The majority of the better-performing players โ€” David de Gea, Ashley Young, Wayne Rooney โ€” were all in place prior to Van Gaalโ€™s arrival.

Moreover, as the club seemingly prepare to spend big again in the summer, the pressure on the Dutch coach is only likely to intensify, with another significant improvement on this season bound to be expected.

- Paul Fennessy

2. Rodgers left red-faced as Liverpoolโ€™s season ends on a low note

There may have been little to play for when Liverpool lined out against Stoke at the Britannia Stadium today, but that doesnโ€™t excuse how poorly the Reds performed in the first half.

The Reds were 5-0 down at the break and eventually lost 6-1 to the Potters โ€” despite Steven Gerrard scoring in his final game for the club.

Brendan Rodgers issued an apology afterwards and admitted being โ€œembarrassedโ€ by the defeat, which saw them finish sixth in the table table to qualify for the Europa League.

The Liverpool boss spoke of addressing several areas which need improvement in the summer, but, after picking up eight points from their final nine matches, how many fans would like to see the Fenway Sports Group replace him in the close season?

- Ben Blake

3. Arsenal not far off being title challengers

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(Theo Walcott hit a hat-trick as Arsenal beat West Brom 4-1)

There was sense of Groundhog Day at the Emirates by the end of this season. Despite occasional moments of promise, Arsenalโ€™s inconsistency meant that, once again, they failed to launch a sustained title challenge over the course of the campaign.

However, Arsene Wengerโ€™s men arenโ€™t a million miles away from being in with a genuine chance of winning the league, as their emphatic 4-1 win over Tony Pulisโ€™ West Brom today indicated.

Players such as Alexis Sanchez, Santi Cazorla and Laurent Koscielny would be good enough to get in most teams in the world, while promising youngsters like Calum Chambers, Hector Bellerin and even Jack Wilshere (who is still just 23) will only get better with age.

Nevertheless, the North-London side still need a world-class goalkeeper and centre forward, while Per Mertesackerโ€™s lack of pace is too often exposed in big games. If Wenger can rectify these flaws, then expect the title race to be much closer next season.

- Paul Fennessy

4. Fairytale ending to nightmare season for Newcastle

Above all, there was a feeling of relief at St Jamesโ€™ Park as Newcastle United preserved their Premier League status, but the contribution of Jonas Gutierrez added more emotion to an already highly charged afternoon.

Perhaps it would be stretching it to say it was written in the stars for Gutierrez, who only recently recovered from testicular cancer, to score the goal to effectively ensure Newcastle werenโ€™t following QPR and Burnley through the trap door, but barely anything has gone right for the Magpies this term.

It has been another turbulent season for Newcastle, both on and off the pitch, as they were dragged into a relegation scrap following the abrupt departure of Alan Pardew, however, they did just enough on the final day to keep their head above water.

It was a fairytale ending to a nightmare season for the Toon Army, yet despite the elation which greeted the final whistle on Sunday, there is no hiding away from the dissension that still exists at all levels of one of Englandโ€™s biggest clubs.

Before the game, owner Mike Ashley insisted he would not sell the club until they qualified for the Champions League or won some silverware. There are underlying problems, not just on the pitch, and Newcastle will need to sit down and find a solution, or risk finding themselves in a similar situation in 12 monthsโ€™ time.

There were inevitable tears and laughter at full-time, but once the celebrations of Premier League survival die down, serious issues need to be addressed.

- Ryan Bailey

5. Worrying times for Irish players

Confirmation of Hullโ€™s 18th-place finish earlier took the total number of Irish first-team players relegated from the Premier League to seven this season.

That said, Robbie Brady impressed with his set-piece delivery, while Paul McShane earned a well-deserved man-of-the-match award during todayโ€™s 0-0 draw with Man United.

However, for Brady, McShane, David Meyler and Stephen Quinn to all be playing Championship football next season would be a significant blow for the Irish national side.

A bigger team may take a chance on Brady, given his relative youth and clear expertise from dead-ball situations, nonetheless, it seems unlikely that the other three will find themselves playing in the top flight anytime soon.

And the lack of confidence that this latest development will likely prompt ahead of the vital Euro 2016 qualifier against Scotland is far from the only concern for Irish manager Martin Oโ€™Neill. Centre-back Marc Wilson failed to start for the fourth time in five games for Stoke, while Aiden McGeady was an unused sub again for Everton.

- Paul Fennessy

Originally published at 23.40 on 25 April 

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    Mute Eel Knack Mole
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:48 PM

    If Sky Sports cared about their Irish customers, the first 15 minutes would be broadcast in Ireland.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:04 PM

    Great comment!

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    Mute Cosmo Kramer
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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:54 PM

    Just show delayed footage at 5:15. Then when the second half kicks off youโ€™d be back up to live coverage.. The studio guests on Spanish Football are muck anyway

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    Mute Maurice Dancer
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    Oct 25th 2014, 12:16 AM

    But Sky donโ€™t care about you. England is where they care the most.

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    Mute Colin Garthwaite
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    Feb 26th 2017, 2:14 PM

    @Eel Knack Mole: Like you lot arenโ€™t popping over to England for EPL ganes!

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    Mute james kelly
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    Oct 24th 2014, 10:55 AM

    Should change it to just domestic matches if itโ€™s to protect crowd attendance

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    Mute Ted Carroll
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:28 PM

    I donโ€™t think itโ€™s quite as straightforward as that but the 17:15 part bothers me greatly, if the rule ceased at 5 pm it would be good enough.

    The reason the domestic only rule wouldnโ€™t work is that they fear that if this game were on at 3pm that the crowds that might otherwise have attended games would be sitting at home or in the pub to watch this instead.

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    Mute Joe Bloggs
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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:27 PM

    Why canโ€™t they just start showing it at 5.01, then technically itโ€™s not live

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    Mute Dave O'Hanlon
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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:09 PM

    as long as first row sports can show it

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Oct 24th 2014, 6:02 PM

    Mobdro

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    Oct 24th 2014, 6:43 PM

    No the quality can be quite crap. Download ace stream and use wizwig to find a good stream. Near HD quality if you have a fibre connection

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    Mute cosmological
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:23 PM

    Rules are made to be broken.

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    Mute Frank Buffalo
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:31 PM

    Is that a rule?

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    Mute cosmological
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:46 PM

    I like that Frank.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:11 PM

    Just watch online

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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:48 PM

    Normally takes 15 minutes to clear the JavaScript pop-ups!!!

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    Oct 24th 2014, 3:33 PM

    Ad blocker

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    Mute Michael cunnane
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:18 PM

    Loadamebollocks.Worse than itv

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    Mute Mick Stafford
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    Oct 24th 2014, 11:39 AM

    Do BT Sport not have to comply with this ruling? I May be completely wrong, but donโ€™t they show games around this time on a Saturday?!

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    Mute Dan O'Connor
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:11 PM

    Thatโ€™s correct. BT and setanta often show the 3pm game on a Saturday.

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    Mute Pauliebhoy
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:14 PM

    No, only Setanta do and itโ€™s only available in Ireland

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    Mute Dan O'Connor
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:16 PM

    Wasnโ€™t aware of that. Good to know!

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    Mute Ger O'Shea
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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:43 PM

    Yeah because Sky Sportโ€™s showing the game from the start would have any affect on the attendance of a Spanish football match sold out months ago.

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    Mute Anthony Kelly
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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:43 PM

    Does anyone else fancy explaining it to him?

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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:46 PM

    no point anthony. he simply doesnโ€™t get it

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    Mute Sean Mcphillips
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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:18 PM

    There are no restrictions in the US thank goodness..that is an ass-inine rule.Can you imagine joining the match with one of the teams up by two or threeโ€ฆ.game over.Folks in Ireland who pay for this service should be up in arms.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:23 PM

    Apart from the blackout rules for the NFL that prevent a game being televised locally if the game hasnโ€™t sold outโ€ฆ

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    Mute Sean Mcphillips
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    Oct 24th 2014, 3:03 PM

    I will never have that problem with the Giants.

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    Mute Colin Garthwaite
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    Feb 26th 2017, 2:16 PM

    @Sean Mcphillips: Yes and we get to watch PGA golf live,while you have to wait for a basketball match to finish.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:52 PM

    watching football is one of the few things that gets me through the week. real sense of anticipation for barca vs madrid then united vs chelsea on super sunday. looking forward to Saracens against Munster tonight too

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    Mute Trevor Nolan
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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:55 PM

    Is this only for league games? The FA Cup Final was shown live for years with a 15:00 kickoff on a Saturday. If the rule can be flouted for that game, surely authorities can do the same for a game shown in another country?

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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:44 PM

    Archaic ruleโ€ฆ.next up thereโ€™ll be a call to prayer on tvโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 12:59 PM

    Gave you a thumbs up but I donโ€™t get the connection.

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    Mute Mick Jacobs
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    Oct 24th 2014, 2:38 PM

    Dont RTE have that gong, sorry going already โ€ฆ

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    Oct 24th 2014, 1:04 PM

    Find a bein sports stream onlineโ€ฆthey have Keys and Grey too.

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    Mute Joan Fallon
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    Oct 24th 2014, 4:21 PM

    Donโ€™t watch football, if I wanted to watch someone try to score for 90 mins I would bring my friends to the pub on a Saturday night

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    Oct 24th 2014, 4:25 PM

    Good one Joan

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    Oct 25th 2014, 12:18 AM

    Cool story Joan you misery

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    Oct 24th 2014, 7:11 PM

    You could quite possibly miss 3 or 4 goals in that 15 minutes!

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    Oct 25th 2014, 12:38 AM

    Irish people complaining about British channels showing Spanish games. Bejaysus

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    Mute Maurice Dancer
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    Oct 25th 2014, 3:26 PM

    Irish customers of said British channel you mean. Or perhaps you like to sit back and be taken for a mug.

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    Oct 24th 2014, 6:01 PM

    โ€ Of course, in this day and age there are plenty of ways for you to circumvent the blackout and watch the first 15 minutesโ€ฆ not that weโ€™d be encouraging you to do that sort of thing.โ€โ€ฆ..Sly wont be happy with the str@@ming stealing their thunder!

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    Oct 24th 2014, 4:37 PM

    Setanta show games from the premiership every weekend at 3pm whats the difference? ??

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Oct 24th 2014, 6:05 PM

    Only in Ireland they cannot show 3pm sat matches Ukky Kingdom

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    Oct 24th 2014, 9:39 PM

    I am impressed by u saying UKky Kingdom. How long does the deal last until?

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