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Limerick man Ray Egan has been appointed head coach of the new San Diego team in PRO Rugby.

THE IRISH LINKS to American rugby are plentiful and set to grow even further this year if Ray Egan is successful with his idea to bring players from these shores to the States.

Eddie Oโ€™Sullivan has had two stints as the USA national teamโ€™s head coach, while Dubliner Aj MacGinty and Cork native John Quill are current Eagles stars.

179182_10150832566912161_2010832615_n Egan [centre] celebrates a National Championship with Belmont Shore.

At Ivy League colleges and within USA Rugbyโ€™s developmental set-up, Irishmen Greg McWilliams and Gavin Hickie are working hard to bring through the next crop of player for the Eagles. Trinity man Tony Smeeth has done mountains of work with the American game. These are just some of the connections between Irish and US rugby.

Limerick native Egan has been working in the States as head coach of Belmont Shore RFC since emigrating from Ireland with his wife, Stephanie, in 2011. Having developed as a coach with Munster, Egan has thrived in the US.

His rise as a coach in the American game has now been recognised with his appointment as head coach of the San Diego team in the upcoming inaugural season of the PRO Rugby competition.

After years of nearly, buts and maybes โ€“ where the likes of the NRFL insisted they were close โ€“ a national league has finally been set up in the States and will kick into life in April.

Sanctioned by USA Rugby and World Rugby, this is a hugely exciting step for the sport in the US, as interest continues to rise rapidly thanks in part to the national sevens teamโ€™s success and the increasing availability of high-level European and Super Rugby on television.

The first season of PRO Rugby will feature five teams โ€“ Sacramento, San Francisco, Ohio, Denver and Eganโ€™s San Diego โ€“ and will be played out over a 12-week season ending on 31 July.

Denver also have an Irish head coach on board in the shape of Sean Oโ€™Leary, who has worked with the University of Notre Dame and USAโ€™s U17 and U19 programmes.

Though many amateur players will feature, this is the beginning of a professional league that could eventually change the shape of the global game if US rugby continues its rapid growth.

USA internationals like Todd Clever are set to be involved in PRO Rugby, as well as the cream of the club players from the existing Pacific Rugby Premiership and American Rugby Premiership leagues on either coast of the country.

Eganโ€™s hope is that there will be a strong Irish representation in PRO Rugby too.

PRO Rugby is operated on a centralised basis, meaning all coaches and players are contracted to the organisation and then distributed out into the five teams based on geographical suitability and an effort to ensure an even spread of resources.

Britain Rugby WCup USA Japan Aj MacGinty is the Eagles' first-choice out-half. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

Each team will consist of a 30-man squad, meaning 180 players in total, and PRO Rugby has recently sent out 150 contract offers to American and foreign-based players. Egan believes Irish players can make bring quality to each of the squads.

โ€œWeโ€™re talking about players that might be coming out of an academy contract and the provinces are not going to give a senior contract to them, or a player that isnโ€™t getting game time with Munster, Leinster, Connacht or Ulster,โ€ says Egan.

โ€œThey are heading to the back-end of their season and the provinces might know theyโ€™re not going to use the player. Maybe the playerโ€™s club is out of Ulster Bank League contention, thereโ€™s an opportunity to come over here for five months.

โ€œItโ€™s a five-month league, itโ€™s the back-end of the league at home so even for a good AIL player whose side is out of contention for promotion or not going to get relegated, it might be an opportunity for them to come out and play full-time.โ€

PRO Rugbyโ€™s contracting system works on a tiered basis, with the full-time tier one deals going to the likes of USA back row Clever and his Eagles teammates.

Tier two contracts go to players being developed for the Eagles or perhaps the very best club players, while the third tier involves pay-per-play deals for current amateurs who may want to continue their full-time professions alongside rugby.

Eganโ€™s San Diego outfit will be based out of the University of San Diego, while the rest of the leagueโ€™s teams will play in stadia ranging from 3,000 to 10,000 in capacity. Their shortened pre-season begins in mid-March and he hopes to have Irish players in place by then.

A former Munster academy coach, Egan believes that PRO Rugby can offer young Irish talent a chance to gain all-important game time in the coming months, even if they are to join only a loan basis.

โ€œIโ€™d love to partner up with the four Irish provinces,โ€ says Egan. โ€œProfessional rugby is professional rugby. The standard might be different, but youโ€™re playing games.โ€

Egan looks at MacGinty and Quill as examples of what Irish players can achieve in US rugby if they are committed enough. Out-half MacGinty was not an underage star at Blackrock College, but completed three years at Life University in Georgia before becoming the Eaglesโ€™ 10 and earning a contract at Connacht.

Australia US Rugby John Quill squares up to Kurtley Beale. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

โ€œIt doesnโ€™t have to be the star academy or youth player,โ€ says Egan. โ€œSometimes itโ€™s just about a good player with good football foundations put in a pro environment. Four months before the World Cup, the Eagles decided AJ was the man at out-half.

โ€œHe played four World Cup games, โ€˜sink or swim and learn to play the position.โ€™ He got more and more comfortable in that environment. Now heโ€™s playing for Connacht.โ€

Quill, meanwhile, was good enough to feature for Munster at A level, but the 25-year-old now has 17 caps for the Eagles.

โ€œJohn might only have played club rugby in Ireland until they found out he had an American passport,โ€ says Egan. โ€œWithin six months, heโ€™s the Eaglesโ€™ starting seven.

โ€œThey are the kind of opportunities that I would love to be able to give to guys from back home. If there are players, with or without a US passport, we can hopefully help them go bigger and better, or at least give them an opportunity to play.โ€

The league itself is a huge opportunity for American rugby, which Egan has lived and breathed since the day of his arrival in Long Beach, California in 2011.

While head coaching Belmont Shore to continuous success and leading the Griffins Southern California side, he also acts as a regional academy director for Tiger Rugby, an organisation that works to improve the quality of both coaches and players.

Coaching the coaches is a huge factor in American rugby, given that many of those tasked with leading the development of young players have no rugby background or expertise whatsoever.

โ€œJust because of my experience from home, they use me a lot that way in terms of coaching content,โ€ says Egan. โ€œReally itโ€™s just about trying to find what works for coaches. Itโ€™s very hard to get coaching courses here consistently. Because itโ€™s such a young sport, itโ€™s dads coaching or people transferring from football.

โ€œThatโ€™s one of the things the IRFU do right in the domestic game; youth development officers, academies, all of those are doing good stuff. Regardless of how much the downturn in the economy happened, they left that alone and the pro game took more of the hit.

Ray Egan Fitness Advisor Egan worked with the Ireland U19s at the 2007 World Cup. Billy Stickland / INPHO Billy Stickland / INPHO / INPHO

 

โ€œThatโ€™s one of the smart moves they made and I donโ€™t think the IRFU or the provinces get the accolades they deserve for it. There is a conveyor belt of players coming through and now itโ€™s up to the top-level coaches if theyโ€™re going to use them.โ€

Formerly a player with Young Munster and Cashel, among others, Eganโ€™s original background is in the world of strength and conditioning, having graduated out of Loughborough University with a Sports Science and Physics degree.

He joined Munster and the IRFU in 2005 in such a role, but gradually moved into a position as an Elite Player Development Officer, โ€œbecause the rugby coaching is what I was interested in doing.โ€

He worked with the likes of Conor Murray, Simon Zebo and Peter Oโ€™Mahony during his years with Munster and the IRFU, and was involved in the 2009 Churchill Cup with Ireland too.

โ€œI learned so much at Munster,โ€ says Egan. โ€œYou come in with an idea of rugby in Munster and underage Ireland, but you donโ€™t understand what lengths they go through.

โ€œIt was nothing to do a 60 or 70-hour week, driving down to Kerry, to Cork. That was part of the game. There are guys all over the provinces doing that now and not getting any credit for it.

โ€œItโ€™s a labour of love. I remember Declan Kidney used to say to me every morning coming into the office, โ€˜It could be worse, we could be working for a living.โ€™ When you get into that idea, it was a great knowledge for me.โ€

Egan โ€“ who also worked with Limerickโ€™s senior football team at one point โ€“ picks out Kidney, Anthony Foley and Jason Holland as among the biggest influences on his career, but he is forging his own path now in the US.

His children, Jack, Conor and Ella, are โ€œbig and bouldโ€ enough to keep him busy away from rugby, but the demands of the oval ball game are relentless. Kidneyโ€™s words echo in his head whenever the going gets tough.

Mainly, however, this is a time of excitement in the US, particularly with Eganโ€™s appointment as head coach of San Diego and the developments in that sense. The Limerick man sees only major growth in the game.

Declan Kidney Egan says he learned huge amount from Declan Kidney. BIlly Stickland / INPHO BIlly Stickland / INPHO / INPHO

 

โ€œThe standard of play of rugby in the five years Iโ€™ve been here is very different,โ€ says Egan. โ€œTechnically the players are much better. There has been a big influence of foreign coaches coming in and that has had a knock-on effect at the upper levels.

โ€œThe youth side is just exploding. Last year, there was a 20% growth in youths rugby. High school football level is actually down 20%, although the overall numbers are obviously on a different level.

โ€œYouโ€™ll find that these football schools are now implementing rugby programmes in their off-season and theyโ€™re seeing a benefit in their players in terms of tackle, fitness, hand-eye coordination, skill level, all those things.โ€

The NBC television network has struck a deal to screen 20 Aviva Premiership games live, meaning the a boost to the chances of Americans casually flicking to a rugby game and embracing the contact element that is so beloved in their football.

The success of the menโ€™s sevens team has been hugely important too, and a strong performance at the Olympics would further boost rugbyโ€™s profile.

Egan is confident that PRO Rugby, hopefully with an Irish influence, will be an integral part of that picture.

โ€œThe change is happening and the sevens gives rugby a much higher profile,โ€ says Egan.

โ€œItโ€™s in the media more and the public now understand what rugby is. Five years ago they might have stared at you and asked, โ€˜whatโ€™s rugby?โ€™ Itโ€™s hitting a broader audience and now it needs the next step.โ€

- This article was updated at 2.15pm on Sunday 28 February to include mention of the appointment of Sean Oโ€™Leary as Denverโ€™s head coach.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:10 AM

    Kevin Mc should feel very very hard done by.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:10 AM

    Kevin McManamon that is.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 10:59 AM

    @Aideen Thornton: Yeah, he had a great year.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:05 AM

    John Small was another player who deserves a mention, half back line was very competitive area.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:32 AM

    overall decent selection. always one or two debatable picks. Really puts Clarkeโ€™s non selection on replay into question. Unlucky were cian o Sullivan, Peter acheson, Kevin mc, Gary Brennan. Then again hard to get everyone in.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 10:53 AM

    @clumley: Cluxton conceded 6, Clarke conceded 6. Cluxton was never dropped and had superior kickouts and Dublin played tougher opposition. Worth noting which teams the goals were conceded against. Comerford conceded 6 in Munster alone and a further 5 in the 4th round, quarters and semi which ruled him out. Kerry goalie only conceded 2 and kept a clean sheet against Dublin. If kickouts were the deciding factor, anyone have the stats?

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 1:20 PM

    Tougher opposition!? Have you SEEN Leinster football in the last 10 years???

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 1:45 PM

    @Jack Strong: the all-stars are decided on the last couple of games, sad but true. Dublin played Donegal, Kerry and Mayo twice and thats were most goals were conceded out of the six for Cluxton. Mayo did well to pass the mighty Londoners! Leinster is not a great standard at the moment but neither is Munster or Connacht. A semi final against Kerry tends to be a little tougher than meeting Tipp.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 2:04 PM

    So the All Stars are decided in the last 3 games but you just had to throw in your remark about having to play London against London? Good man. Cluxton conceded 3 against Laois who arenโ€™t exactly world beaters.

    A Quarter final (where we went in as underdogs) against Tyrone is every bit as tough as Kerry.

    By your own logic Cluxtonโ€™s meltdown in the semi final is the reason he didnโ€™t win one as thatโ€™s far more important than any other game in the season.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 7:59 PM

    Laois scored 2

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:11 AM

    Reading dubs comments on a lot of these threads makes me cringe. Be a bit more gracious there lads , donโ€™t give them any more reason to dislike us. Congrats to all all star winners

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 10:57 AM

    @Cormac Oโ€™Gara: Itโ€™s not being ungracious, debate about commissions is fairly routine and any fan will focus on their own. Six is a great haul but its not about the number, individual players had a good case for selection and whats being said is just people trying to recognise their input.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 10:58 AM

    @Frainc ร“ Broin: *Omissions not commissions

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:11 AM

    No cluxton what the fยฅck is going on. Clarke wouldnโ€™t lace his boots

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:17 AM

    @The metropolitans: Ah Cluxton has plenty and 3 Celtic Crosses so far on his mantel piece with Sam tucked up safely in the captial for the winter will help soften the blow for us Dubs too :)

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:18 AM

    Mantle*

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:00 AM

    4 Celtic crosses

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:01 AM

    @The metropolitans: All Stars are for the best players this year, not the best players in general. Going by your logic, should Bernard Brogan, Colm Cooper and Sean Cavanagh win All Stars every year?

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:03 AM

    @The metropolitans: Clarke is a top goalkeeper, both conceded the same number of goals, I think he was unlucky.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:26 AM

    Kev mc deserved an all star , cluxton had 8 mins of a meltdown and they give it to Clarke who his own manager didnโ€™t even have faith in him haha . Just shows how high cluxton has set his standards that a few mins cost him over a keeper who was dropped .

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 7:57 AM

    Cluxton is running out of room on the mantle piece so they gave it to a lad dropped for the replay and made no difference when brought on. When you think about it long and hard it makes perfect sense.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:20 AM

    Harsh Ned. Clarke should never have been dropped for the replay, thatโ€™s a known fact at this stage.
    What about Cluxton in the semi final against Kerry? His misplaced kick outs and indecisiveness simply invited Kerry back into that game.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 8:48 AM

    As mentioned above Gavin it was short spell in the first half of a match. He didnt miss one kick out after. In the replay he had a fantastic game. He was the only keeper to have a good game that day.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:16 AM

    Thought Evan Comerford was very unlucky

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:29 AM

    Future looks bright for Mayo. 2 of the young additions to Mayo this year, one got an All Star and one will feel hard done by who didnโ€™t get one in Durcan. Add thatโ€™s with DOC who will likely get young player of the year and the general age profile of the team Mayo are well placed to put in a big championship next season. Former all star Caff coming back from injury also for next season. Rochford needs get the most of a talented forward line who were generally average this year and it could be a strong year next year. Just to add re Durcan- it was an excellent season of performances from him especially taking his Mitchels performances into consideration. He was unbelievable against Crossmaglen in club semi final. A definite all star in my book.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 12:29 PM

    Yeah all that is true, but you seem to be forgetting about the curseโ€ฆโ€ฆ

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:21 AM

    Cluxton has had two spells now of ten minutes each where he lost his way a little, thatโ€™s 20 minutes in 15 years. One player, 15 years, 20 minutes. Itโ€™s cringeworthy that heโ€™s not in the team.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:37 AM

    This is not some sort of life time achievement Award. Itโ€™s based on this year and this year alone. Cluxton has been below his own high standards and made som big mistakes in crucial games

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 10:49 AM

    Because of ten minutes ? And your point that he was below his own high standards is vacuous, the only standard that matters is that set by his peers.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:07 AM

    @gary sheehan: He is not rated on his own high standards, is rated against the others in contention. Fair play to Clarke, he is a top goalie, which be interesting to find out why one player was selected over another.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:13 AM

    You clearly didnโ€™t see him play early in his career if you think that

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 11:29 AM

    @Stรญofรกn Mac Piarais: are you referring to Clarke or Cluxton?

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:33 AM

    Clarke ahead of Cluxton. Holy god where do they get this stuff from.

    A complete and utter sympathy selection. If Clarke hadnโ€™t been dropped for the replay, he wouldnโ€™t be getting an All Star. Crazy.

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 5:23 PM

    Itโ€™s funny that the player who most pundits say has changed the game most in the past decade and most others keepers try copy but canโ€™t match,not forgetting he has four all Ireland winners medals. Two are back to back. Doesnโ€™t get an all star in the last two years. He is the one players dublin have not been able to replace. Take a bow me cluxton

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 6:10 PM

    On the Button ! Every team that takes on Dublin looks at Cluxtons kick outs to try and stop his deliveryโ€™s ! The reason Fenton is so good is his mobility and Cluxtons ability to hit him with balls 50 yards from Goal ! The reason why Clarke was dropped in the 1st place was to get a better delivery ala Cluxton like to Mayos midfield etc ! I think itโ€™s fair to say that if anyone was picking a team to win a game Cluxton would be No 1 ! He had a fantastic season and although kerry picked his pockets for a few minutes he had the balls to regroup and deliver pin point deliveryโ€™s thereafter !

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    Nov 3rd 2016, 9:25 AM

    So with the exception of a few tokens to pretend its not all a farce they really just wanted the rest of the Dublin and mayo teamsโ€ฆ.. Its the reason 90% of the country could give a rats a$$ about Allstars. Usually you can tell by and large who they will be once squads are announced at the beginning of the campaignโ€ฆ..

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