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Edinburgh prop to face Pro14 disciplinary panel after RDS red card

Pierre Schoeman was dismissed for leading with his elbow in contact.

EDINBURGH LOOSEHEAD PIERRE Schoeman will appear in front of a Pro14 disciplinary panel on Wednesday after he was sent-off for leading with his elbow into the face of Leinster’s Dan Leavy.

Pierre Schoeman dejected after the game Schoeman was shown red in the 71st minute. Laszlo Geczo / INPHO Laszlo Geczo / INPHO / INPHO

The South African prop was shown red by referee Dan Jones nine minutes before the end of Saturday’s round four clash at the RDS, having caught the Ireland international when carrying into contact.

After watching replays on the big screen, the Welsh official then consulted with his TMO, Simon McDowell, and Schoeman was given his marching orders under Law 9.12 — a player must not physically or verbally abuse anyone.

Leavy, on his seasonal reappearance, was withdrawn for a HIA and will now follow the return to play protocols.

Asked about the incident after the game, Edinburgh head coach Richard Cockerill said: “It is [a red] these days, you’ve got to protect people. I don’t think it was malicious from our guy, he’s [Leavy] dropping a fraction, but look, it happens, it’s an accident more than anything and we know the consequences if it happens.”

24-year-old Schoeman will face a disciplinary panel via video conference, with the all-Welsh panel comprising of Simon Thomas (Chair), Roger Morris and Nigel Williams.

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    Mute Tase Jansey
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    Dec 11th 2019, 9:51 AM

    Ringrose is an outstanding defender. End of.

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    Mute William Mills
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    Dec 11th 2019, 10:18 AM

    @Tase Jansey: I wouldn’t put him in that bracket just yet (outstanding defender) he’s an outstanding all round player but his defence/tackling are the weakest part of his game when you consider someone like sexton who’s of a similar stature he’s a much better defender/tackler but he’s got youth on his side and I’m sure he’ll improve his defensive qualities in time

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    Mute Cormac Ó Braonáin
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    Dec 11th 2019, 10:45 AM

    @Tase Jansey: when he’s in position he’s a capable defender.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 11:07 AM

    @William Mills: Hi William. But 10 and 13 are completely different positions to defend so you can’t do a like for like comparison. 13 is much harder to defend. Ringrose brings really good line speed and 9 times out of 10 makes the right call when he shoots up in my opinion. Also his tackling technique is superb in my opinion, so I’d have to, respectfully of course, disagree with you there. Would obviously like to see more ‘Hollywood’ big massive hits but they’re not a good barometer of being a good tackler or not. Payne was a supreme defender at 13, and obv BOD was too. I think Ringrose is in a similar category of being as intelligent as both of those. Hopefully his defence can continue to improve like them too.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 12:52 PM

    @William Mills: Sexton is generally defending a lot less space so its much easier to effect your tackles. Ringrose def has never been the best but he has gas which gets him out of a lot of trouble. He can be very good when assessing when the other team have numbers and he shoots up to take man and ball, he knows if he misses its a likely try but if he doesn’t go for it its an almost certain try anyway. 13 not easiest position to play certainly defensively

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    Dec 11th 2019, 8:11 PM

    @William Mills: you are surely joking!!!!? Slot Johnny in at no.13 the hardest defensive position and see how he performs.
    Ringrose IS an excellent defensive player and tackler.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 10:44 PM

    @Billy Leahy: was referring more to his one on one tackling skills he does seem to get bounced off more than the other backs I agree his reading of attacking play’s spacing & line speed are all excellent he just sometimes doesn’t stick in the one on one situations where it’s not about making a good defensive read or line speed it’s just about stopping the guy running straight at you

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    Dec 11th 2019, 10:49 PM

    @Tase Jansey: Agee totally with the difference in defending 10 & 13 but my concern is not with his defensive reads or line speed or spacing he’s normally spot on a very intelligent defender who reads the game very well it’s just his ability to stop a guy running straight at him when it’s a one on one that would be the weakest point for me

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    Dec 11th 2019, 7:33 AM

    He’s not wrong yeno. From playing the game at 13 or sometimes 15 you can push the attack out or even half arse the tackle but force an error

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    Dec 11th 2019, 8:29 AM

    @Ollie Watson: Yes I heard Brian O’Driscoll explaining that in most cases they are “good” tackles he is adjudged to have missed.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 10:41 AM

    Stats are a funny thing, single stats can’t be relied solely on to determine how good a game an individual had. My favourite stat of the weekend was mike Haley’s – 0 tackles made and 0 tackles missed and had an absolute boss of a game.
    I saw an analyst yesterday use Ronan Kelleher as an example – one of his carry’s was for 5m and he beat 2 defenders but knocked the ball on and turned over possession. On paper it looks great – 2DB and 5m carry but the net result was a huge negative.
    I wouldn’t subscribe to the theory that there’s such a thing as a good missed tackle, no player goes out to miss them, but there are certainly better outcomes than others. As for ringrose tackling – he was against proctor and he looked to be worried about henshaw inside him, wouldn’t think it’s an issue.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 9:27 AM

    Did see one tackle where the player bounced ringer like a rag doll. His size is a big problem for him. Unfortunately us paddies don’t have the bulk of some of the other nations. Not much we can do about that.

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    Dec 11th 2019, 1:29 PM

    Funny timing for the article considering his missed tackles this weekend were bad missed tackles. His point is correct though. There’s nothing more useless than stats without context

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    Dec 11th 2019, 1:45 PM

    @Eddie Hekenui: nothing funny about it, it’s an Indo article after all.

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