ON FIRST ENCOUNTER with Mags D’Arcy, she comes across as a right joker.
She’s that person in the room that everyone wants to talk to. The one that everyone wants to have a laugh with.
And it’s no wonder. She’s a character.
The Wexford goalkeeper won the hearts of the audience as a panellist at the #SupportHerSport conference earlier today.
“You’re opening another can of fish … or can of worms or whatever you want to call it,” she responds to one of Joanne Cantwell’s questions, as the crowd erupts with laughter.
“You can have any can you like. I need the same up here today I think, a few cans!”
Her sense of humour comes naturally. Her glowing personality is evident from the minute she opens her mouth.
She came out with several other witty one-liners and jokes throughout the day, but when the conversation turns serious, D’Arcy means business.
On the stage during the panel discussion, she spoke at length about the progress that has been made over the last few years regarding gender equality in sport.
It’s come a long way, but there’s a lot more to be done. It’s the recurring theme of the day.
“The game itself has changed — the speed, the skill-set, the efficiency and how the ball is utilised has changed — and that means that we require more resources and facilities and infrastructure to keep that standard up,” the two-time All-Star and four-time All-Ireland senior camogie champion says as she addresses the crowd.
“In terms of on a national level, has the game developed? Yes, the Camogie Association are doing a lot of work, the partnership with Liberty Insurance has brought us on a great deal and given us as much exposure as we can get.
But I really think the next natural progression would be obviously the amalgamation with the GAA.
They’ve already taken a welcome step in Wexford. Following the opening of a Centre of Excellence, the county boards came together.
“We’re very lucky in Wexford, we’ve a fabulous county board who basically amalgamated with the men’s section. It was just a natural progression. There are four pitches, so why not? It was actually last Friday, we had Davy Fitz and the hurlers on one pitch and we were training next door. They got their hot food given to them and we got our hot showers and went home.”
More laughter from the crowd. There may still be a barrier between the genders, but it’s progress.
“We’re still given the same facilities and the basics for what we need. It was a crime bringing all the wasted food out into the bin, and we were there saying ‘can we have a little bit of that?’
That’s just the way it was, and the way it is. It is a crying shame because we have so many resources, why don’t we just put it all under one umbrella? It won’t cost that much to bring us in, it really wouldn’t. All the infrastructure is there, all the resources are there, financially it’s there.
“As a current player, and as a player 10 years ago, I would have liked to have seen it 10 years ago and I’m still talking about it now. That’s where I’d like to see the game going.
“Maybe us, which we do at the moment, playing some matches before the men. But I’d like to see a total restructure where our county is in the same championship as the men. If the lads are going to play Limerick away, so are the women.
“It would have to be totally wiped and looked at again, I know. And that’s scary.
“We just need to be rash, we just need to just do it because we’re going to have the same conversation in 10 years if we don’t.”
As the panel discussion wraps up, there are whispers around the room.
“Mags is a great character isn’t she? We were saying earlier, she should have her own chat show!”
She smiles for photographs, jokes around with the other three ambassadors — Annalise Murphy, Natalya Coyle and Fiona Coghlan — and chats away to the young competition winner of a meet-and-greet competition.
Then come the media interviews.
“I love talking about myself,” she laughs as she tells The42. “No, I don’t at all like. And I hate talking negatively. This kind of stuff, the stats say a lot and people can perceive them from a negative viewpoint but you have to try and take the positive out of it, that’s all you can do.”
A few stories here and there about her youth and her granny re-watching the 2007 camogie All-Ireland final over and over again, and we’re back to the amalgamation business.
It’s all well and good saying it needs to be done, but is it really feasible?
“If we come back to that original thing I was talking about, a full amalgamation, and put a cap on funding for counties, it will not only sort out the whole issue of Dublin going unbeaten the last 33 games, but if there’s a cap it gives opportunity for sponsorship to be funnelled into other counties.
“Therefore, resources and financial backing would go into other counties. Therefore, the standard of play will come up. If you take that model and then you amalgamate the women’s game underneath it, than those resources are mainstream to all four codes — ladies football, camogie, hurling and Gaelic football — there’s more of a working relationship between the four codes, therefore we can utilise each other’s resources and utilise pitches together, and utilise funding for hydration and nutrition and that aspect of things.
Looking out at it, it’s like ‘ah this looks so scary’, but it just needs to be done. Sometimes as a leader, you just need to do things and say sorry afterwards, but you’re doing it for the betterment.
“If I’m up here in 10 years’ time, and you’re sitting down there, listening to me talk about it again, just say ‘Mags, game over’.
“If people are fed the same message day in, day out, it’s going to become sterile, they’re not going to listen to it. That’s what we’re doing at the moment, we’re banging on about the lack of hot showers, travel facilities — it’s just the same message.
“All you’re getting off the general public, it’s like ‘what do they expect, the attendance isn’t there, of course they’re not getting the money’ and you’re going ‘all right, does anyone have a valuable solution to this?’ And would that solution not be to amalgamate and give them the same level of coverage — we’re not looking for profile — level of coverage and then the general public can make up their mind whether or not the value of the game should be where it’s at.”
Attendance at female sports events is a huge topic of conversation throughout the day.
One statistic jumped out straight away: three in four people have not attended a major female sporting event in the last year.
“Attendance comes back to being on the same platform, having the same exposure, having the same production team covering matches,” D’Arcy continues.
She casts her mind back to a 90-second clip that was televised a few years ago, of a championship match between her side and Offaly: “It was like ‘Nationwide’ came down and covered the match. It was horrific, a championship match and there was 20 seconds of camogie. The rest was all just Birr, everything but the bloody match.
“I actually sat there going ‘I’d rather have nothing than have that crap thrown on TV’. This isn’t anything against RTÉ. The associations have to say ‘no, that’s not good enough. We need four minutes of exposure.’
“And this comes back to playing the games coinciding with each other. You’ll have the camera angles that represent the skill-set and the skill level for both men’s and women’s because it’s not captured the same.
“You have the HD catching and the turning strike, if you got that at a camogie game and you virally put that around the world, people would go ‘holy sh*t, what’s this game? And women play this. Why don’t we play this over here? This is incredible.’
Until the same respect is shown to the women’s game, and women are given the same platform and the same autonomy and level of exposure, this will not happen. It’s only when they come together, amalgamate, jump in the bed with the lads and get it on.
Out comes the joker amid the seriousness. But not for long.
“I like sense. Maybe I’m not talking sense, but that’s my opinion. That seems to make sense to me. Why waste our time on me going off, I hate the word feminist, but people won’t listen to me if I keep banging on.
This is a solution to solve the problem, and is this not what we want? We just need to sit up, wake up and stop giving out and just do something about it. We need to swallow our pride, some people need to maybe swallow their pride in positions of authority and do what’s best for players.
The LGFA and the Camogie Association however, do thrive on having their own identity, being their own respective organisations.
And D’Arcy respects that. She acknowledges their incredible work and achievements since their foundation, but as the cliché goes, change is good.
“I think we all need to swallow a bit of pride here and just enter 2017, and give the people who you’re actually working for a chance. I don’t want exposure, I don’t want any of this. I want the kids in 10 years’ time to have this level of exposure, and their kids to have role models to look up to.
If we don’t change society and their perspective of women in sport, it’s just going to stay the same.
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Who is Murray Kinsella??? Former player? Coach? Involved in provinces?? Superb analysis and love your articles. Well done on such attention to detail. Really fascinating.
I believe he played for the u20s a few years ago?
Murray, whatever they are paying you at the Journal it’s not enough. These last few weeks you have provided us with the most comprehensive breakdown of games I have ever read. Love reading them. Thanks
I’m glad to see this article. When Heaslip transitioned his game four or five seasons ago the criticism of his play was fair. Since then he’s been a largely unsung hero -despite lions caps, captaining his country and winning on a European stage for Leinster.
I agree! He has been so good recently, and the stats don’t lie, his work rate is huge. He doesn’t set off on bullocking runs like SOB, but he matches him in te other aspects of the game. People forget that playing for Ireland, especially against Aussie and Nz, is a step up from trotting out against almost everyone in the Heineken or Pro12 bar maybe Clermont
that was a great breakdown of his performance against the all-blacks but I understand the criticism leveled at him has been about the last 2 years? Or is it a similar case where he does the unseen dirty work?
GAA man here myself so just asking!
Also, I haven’t seen this much analysis of a single rugby game well… ever! Is this another form of us Irish wallowing in our own misery?
Hi Emmett. Yeah, the intention was to highlight what was a typical performance from Heaslip by using the example of one game. Most of the stuff mentioned in this piece is precisely what he has been doing for Ireland over the last two years.
As for the second question, we have tried to do similarly detailed pieces over this November Test series, not just for this game.
Seems to play more like a seven. Would he be playing open side if it wasn’t for the ball control at back of scrum?
You talk about the carries how many did the all blacks no 8 have how many did Australia’s and how many did Cian Healy have compared to heaslip and how many yards did each Mack when they took the ball on those are sort if questions that should have been asked. it would have been better to take your head out of his arse and really analyse his game against the Aussies and the all blacks and even though we were not playing them the French ,English and South Africans if we are wanting to be involved in the latter stages if the World Cup which is why Schmidt got the gig he will have to pick his game up big time .arriving at a ruck is not the same as hitting it
cheers Murray. Second question was more in jest!
nothing stopping you starting your own blog and providing detailed analysis as youve highlighted seeing as you’re so knowledgeable. its how murray kinsella started off (been reading your blog for a couple of years murray, correct me if im wrong on that point). you might want to work on your punctuation though, a comma or fullstop wouldnt go astray here or there, makes it difficult to read your rant.
It isn’t English class and I didn’t ask you to read it. And if your going to put stuff up then you should expect a little criticism especially when your only coming from one side and not giving a balanced view
well you didn’t ask me not to read it so i did, and the punctuation is shite
and asking someone to remove their head from their arse cant really be classed as criticism gavin, can it?
I’ve enjoyed the analysis Murray, I think its accurate and balanced (I’ve no opinion on Heaslip positive or negative). I think ye should keep it up for the provinces in the H Cup, and like this article keep it factual with examples. I see a lot of people tearing strips off Heaslip on here but I thought he played well.
I said it would be better if he took his head out of Heaslips arse the way he was writing about him you would swear they were best buds .He is not in the top five of great no8s at the moment never mind of all time so how can he be written about in this manner.
Well he did 1 on POM after the Samoa game who isn’t one of the top 5 top 10 backrow players ireland have ever produced (evah!). It was a good piece written in a similar manner, most of us would like more on other players. Heaslip is a good player and he was better than Leamy when he took Leamys place….get over it!
Yep Sean he really does play like a 7 in many ways and not by accident. If people look back at when Heislip broke into the national team, bullocking runs with ball in hand was a big part of his game but when Sean O’Brien ( who is not a natural 7 ) started playing at open side Heislip was asked to alter his game a bit to do a lot of the dirty stuff that number 7s normally do which he does to great effect.
Do you know much about rugby Gavin or are you just an arm chair supporter who listens to George Hook and think’s it’s gospel? Murray has provided detailed analysis of the type of game Heaslip plays and it proves what an immense player he is. You don’t think Heaslip is in the top 5 number 8′s in the world? This is the same Heaslip that started 2 Lions tests this year and 3 last time out? Yeah, maybe you’re right, maybe he’s not that good and both Schmidt and Gatland are amateur coaches who got it wrong! Not sure if I can post links to outside websites, but demented mole did a similar analysis of the Lions tests on rucks etc. Who came out on top…… Heaslip! http://dementedmole.com/2013/10/30/ruck-marks/
Heaslip’s not a show pony back row who makes a couple of carries a game but then goes absent at ruck and tackle time. He works hard for 80 mins, game after game. Not many forwards can claim his work load. POM needs to take a look at Heaslip’s performances and learn from them. Carrying alone aint good enough, especially for a blindside and especially at international level. Just cause you don’t like Heaslip as a person, don’t let that influence your opinion of him as a player. He has set the benchmark for Irish back rows and I for one am delighted to have him playing for my teams over the years!
I can think for myself not like most of the sheep on here following .
Everything ya said made no sense basically you are saying heaslip modified ya mean he has gone missing for the last few years does the unseen work he might as well not be there I have nothing against any player but the analysis was biased no comparisons to other teams no8 which might open your eyes if ya seen how many rucks were hit (not just arriving) ,how many balls were carried, how many yards gained when carried and how many tackles were made by other no8s but then that would be proving a point against heaslip
The problem is you’re thinking for yourself from a position of no knowledge as to what’s going on. If you think a player that makes 22 tackles in a game might as well not be there, then you’re deluded! I’m not calling it unseen work. I know what Jamie does on the field, Murray’s pointed it out in depth here, I showed you an article from the demented mole where he points out the same and more importantly Kidney, Schmidt and Gatland know what he does and rate him very highly as a result! When you’re of the opposite opinion to three coaches who have won trophies at the highest level you need to take a look at your own opinion and re-evaluate it! Plus, looking at one no.8′s stats in one game and comparing it to another no.8 from a different game is unfair as different games have different environments. You might say look, Jamie only made 12 tackles in a game, but Picamoles made 20 in another game, therefore Picamoles is a better no.8. But what you miss is that Jamie played in a game where the opposition only had 40% possession and Picamoles could be playing in a game where the opposition had 80% possession. If you want to compare fairly, compare his workload to his team mate back row. Against new zealand Jamie made 21 tackles, SOB made 16 and POM made 8. Heaslip carried 9 time, SOB 7 and POM 3. So, who had the better game? Also, if you look at that article I quoted, you’ll see that Jamie does more than just arrive at a ruck. You say he’s not in the top 5, name 5 no.8′s that are better than him!
Heaslip was playing opposite Kieran Reid, the nailed on world player of the year. Reid came off second best. Nuff sed.
Excellent breakdown.
Heaslip is a beast, and does far more work than people give him credit for.
Love these detailed analysis might work well for other sports
Really impressive analysis again, Murray. An informative and well researched article, well done.
The main criticism of Heaslip is not his off the feld activities, as the writer tries to tell us, but his on the field activities – or lack of them, at least for Ireland anyway. For all the statistics bandied about, he simply does not reproduce for Ireland what he does for Leinster, but we won’t hear Rob Kearney calling him out on that, will we?. OK, he performed last Sunday against New Zealand, when just about every player rose to the occasion, but this was for the first time in years. When he retires from the Ireland set up, he’ll be best remembered as being the first, and so far only, Irish international to be sent off since the advent of professionalism. Take a bow, Houdini Heaslip.
Idiotic comment. Yes the sending off will always be on his record but he has been an outstanding international and lions player. Criticism of him is often based on provincial bias and is unfounded. He outplayed the best player in the world on Sunday.
Hmm, I wonder where Frank is from.
He was Ireland top tackler against Aus & I think one of the top in the 6 nations across all teams.
Yeah, I acknowledged he played well against New Zealand, for the first time in eons and when every other Irish player played wel alsol. But outplay Kieran Read, as I assume you are referring to him, you must be having a laugh? Take off your blue tinted glasses, brother. If Heaslip did for Ireland on a regular basis what he does for Leinster pretty much every time he steps on the pitch for them he wouldn’t be criticised. Players like BOD, Kearney, Healy do, so they don’t get the same criticism. Heaslip doesn’t – ergo he gets it. But that’s not what they want to hear on Planet Blue.
Thats more than a little bit unfair Frank.
The point of the article is that he does play like this almost every week. Check his stats in games he plays. He’s regularly the top tackler. He always contributes to the breakdown. If he was so poor why did kidney make him captain? Why did he go on lions toor and play in first 2 tests? Every player has a bad game every now and then. I guess no matter what he does he will never please the lines of you brother.
Be honest, you didn’t read the article, did you?
Of course I did Fergal.
you mean on planet earth frank? you got the wording wrong though, its the blue planet, not planet blue. easy mistake to make.
“he performed last Sunday against New Zealand, when just about every player rose to the occasion, but this was for the first time in years”. nice compliment you gave him there, ya made sure you knocked him down again though with the rest of your post. your like super troll philip ryans long lost, more literate brother.
Planet Blue was quite deliberate, James auld stock, shame you couldn’t pick up on it and mixed it up with the name of a David Attenborough documentary. Second time you’ve mentioned my supposed “buddy”, as you call him, this Philip Ryan and second time I am perplexed as to why you think his name should mean anything to me. I don’t rate Heaslip, simple as, and his inclusion in various sides is down to the unprecedented dearth of quality no.8s in Ireland and these islands at this time. I think however that players like O’Brien or O’Mahony could do a far better job in that position for Ireland as ,besides at ,no.8, there are a huge number of quality backrow players around and these 2 versatile players could be moved to no. 8 and good backrow players like Henry, O’Donnell, McLaughlin or even Henderson or Muldoon can be accommodated in the positions they vacate. I appreciate the hurt you are feeling on behalf of poor Jamie though.
oh i got it frank, dont worry. your point was very obvious.
i include you and philbo in the same bracket, buddies if you will, in that you both come on here with your anti leinster agenda, thats all. i know youre not actual friends, just trolls of similar mindsets.
dont worry about my feelings, though its kind of you to mention them.
Another constructive post, Jimbo. No contradiction at all in you calling people parochial when you ascribe an “anti leinster agenda” to the criticism of one player. Nor any contradiction in you lecturing another poster here on punctuation on the evidence of that missive and your previous ones. I will look out for this Phillip you keep referring to as he seems like a dastardly rascal.
Frank. You are an embarrassment to munster and our fans
i only troll the trolls frank.
youve posted more than once here, dont be so coy about your dislike for leinster.
a comma or fullstop here and there isn’t too much to ask for now is it? just made a comment to a guy who’s idea of critiquing murrays article was asking him, and i quote, “it would have been better to take your head out of his arse”. not surprised you’ll defend this level of commentry
Actually, while I don’t agree with Frank, he doesn’t appear anti Leinster at all.
He’s merely stating he doesn’t think Heaslip is any good, and there are better players, even stating that Kevin McLaughlin at 6, to move Sean O’Brien to 8 would be better.
That’s hardly anti Leinster is it?
Much in the same way if I said various Munster players were bad, while others are quality wouldn’t make me anti Munster would it?
absolutely not. but like i said, this isnt the only topic he’s posted on. read around the comments elsewhere. i’m not basing my opinion on his dislike for heaslip.
sorry that was me posting, dunno what happened
James, or Burt Chesterfield Livingston Jnr, or whatever you’re calling yourself now. the likes of you are always so reactionary and one-eyed ( and yes, parochial) that your default reaction is to call others likewise and be childish and petty because you have little or nothing else to offer.
i do read what you have to say frank. ive lots to offer but right now my time will be spent harassing you and your bitter and twisted diatribe against the “evil” that is leinster rugby
Still with the quotation marks put on fictitious quotes, Burt ? And you admit you want to be my stalker. Flattering, but, to put it in the ugly racist phraseology beloved of you, this “untermensch” will swat you aside like a Red Army soldier would a spotty faced Hitler Youth.
harass frank. different meaning to stalk. again your making up stuff for your little argument
“Is there any way Leinster can poach him before that or are Connacht safe for that period of time from their grubby, greedy hands as regards Hensahaw at least?” (im quoting you here before you get all antsy) seems you have a strong dislike of leinster, with their grubby greedy hands, so i characterised them as evil for you. its a play on words, saves you some typing in future
I never made up anything, Burt/James, you’re the only one who has done that. What has the quote you have taken from the Henshaw thread got to do with this Heaslip other than the usual personal smear tactics you employ thread or have you completely lost the run of yourself and tied yourself up in knots yet again? Come on, stalker, up your game.. You’re not very interesting, you are completely unfunny and unentertaining and you are barley literate. Try to be relevant at least or I’ll just ignore you.
Somewhat difficult to base an analysis of Heaslip based on the All Blacks game, where every Irish player was excellent. What about taking a wider cross section for analysis, to include games like against Munster in Thomond Park, where he was very quiet? The above article, in using the All Blacks performance as the lens for analysis, actually overlooks other aspects of his work, such as at the tail of the lineout where he’s normally quite effective, but where Ireland didn’t use him on Sunday. For the record, I think there are better backrows in Ireland, but basing analysis of Heaslip on one game is unfair to the player.
Ah here! The entire Leinster team were quiet in Thomond park(still got the LBP). You could add the games against the Osprey and Castres(less so) to that list and you would come up with the same analysis as Murray above. He hasn’t been consistently brilliant for Ireland but aside from SOB who has? POC has little recent(excl. the last 3 test) games for Ireland so I’m excluding him. Hasn’t that been the problem with Ireland and not just one player?
I don’t think there are any better back row players in Ireland(why weren’t they selected for the Lions, why did Kidney select him as captain).
More articles like this please
Great article Murray!
Side note… See how far offside McCaw is on last photo. Hindmost foot eh… Never seen such a high profile player get away with so many offsides. World class player who knows how to bend the rules
The reason he ” seems” to disappear in some games because he at the coal face and most likely at the bottom of a ruck or the middle of a maul. Many spectators miss these contributions and assume he ” disappeared”.
These rugby comments are becoming a complete piss take with lads having fights with Eachother, very nearly had the biggest win in irish rugby history over the weekend and all you lads can do is bitch
Fantastically detailed and insightful. A level of relevance and insight George Hook could only dream of.
You should send this to me hook. Total bias against Jamie every time. This is a great rebuttal.
Mr hook
Ah the old “unseen work” chestnut.
To be fair he was good enough against the ABs, but the criticism levelled at him in the last few years is because of his habit of disappearing during games.
Hence the nickname Houdini :-)
It’s unseen by those who choose not to see. If you watch a game a one player makes 24 tackles and you don’t see this well maybe you need a bigger TV because anyone who matters ie his coaches are not blinkered by your home town bull
In work I call it “behind the scenes work”.
A very well written, well researched and intelligent piece of sports journalism and analysis, Murray. Kudos to you.
With regards the points you made about Heaslip’s actions at the defensive breakdown (slowing the ball down with his feet, dragging players into rucks to prevent them from joining their defensive line, etc), I think this is something that the Irish team should engage in more. We simply aren’t as ruthless, nor do we ‘bend the rules’ as much as other nations. Look at McCaw, he’s got that sort of cynical defensive game down to a T (the man hadn’t been onside since WC 2003!). It’s the sort of behaviour that wins games; and championships too. After all, no one ever won anything by playing nice, did they?
Of course there was an article of Heaslip put up after one of the greatest Irish performances ever.. prior to Sunday he has been very quiet, and had little input to games, so pull yer heads out of his arse.. Imagine how good Sean O Brien would be at the break down (which is where 7′s should specialise) if he didn’t have to do the 8′s job aswel (ball carrying).. Even this article which is clearly praising him says that although he made something like 9 carries, he made very little ground.. Not exactly flattering for the foward who is supposed to be a dominant ball carrier
Great article Murray!! I would have been one of the first people to question Heaslip’s performances for Ireland over the last couple of years, but your article raises many interesting points that I will certainly watch for in the future!!
As you have said, and I’m inclined to agree, he does have a thankless job but he doesn’t present himself, or stand out as much as the likes of Reade, Harinorduquay or Parisse do. I do wonder would having o’brien at 8 and Heaslip at 7 make a difference!! You’d maintain O’Briens ball carrying abilities while putting Heaslip at 7 includes him more in the action!! I agree with everybody else by the way, keep the player profiles coming!!
That “unseen work” canard is bandied about an awful lot for Houdini. As is the “home town bull” by the Leinster crowd whenever anyone dares to criticise the performance of a Leinster player when playing in green ( they’re above all that, you see, except when someone who isn’t from Leinster plays badly for Ireland, when they are perfectly justified to do so, you see, and it isn’t parochial bias at all at all at all). There is a reason why Leinster players like Sean O’Brien aren’t criticised for their performance for Ireland. And there is a reason why Jamie Heaslip is for his non-performances for Ireland.
Play Rugby??
These are extremely useful analyses Murray. Keep them coming.
Heaslip? He doesn’t do anything for Ireland. He gets sin binned, goes into discussion when he’s not supposed to so really? When he’s captain, you should lead by example. Somehow he doesn’t seem to get what’s being asked of him. Please make someone else captain when the big boys retire, Peter O’Mahoney for example.
And POM gets into handbags almost every game. His biggest game as Munster captain he fell out with the ref who refused to shake his hand at the end. He’s not ready yet, and IMO he’s behind SOB.
As for your “he gets sin binned” suggestion, that is just false.
Jamie Heaslip has been sin binned on 7 occasions in his 192 game career. Only once for Ireland, which was last November I believe. Where I get my info: http://rugby.statbunker.com/players/GetHistoryStats?player_id=16623&comps_type=-1&dates=-1
As stated in this article, Heaslip made 24 tackles on Sunday, and did a lot of unseen work, which Murray has conveniently shown us. I would call that leading by example wouldn’t you?
Although I do think that O’Mahony is a future captain, he has a lot to learn as Munster captain first, which Heaslip has had to learn in the last year.
Heaslip made more tackles in the AB game than Pom made in all 3 games, he must be doing an awful lot of unseen work because the Munster boys love the non tackler and abuse the man who has to not only covers O’Brien as a ball carrier but also our non tackling no 6
Excellent article Murray. Heaslip is a terrific asset to Irish rugby. He plays the most minutes per season for province & country, rarely gets injured (what an athlete), consistently performs at a high level, immense work rate, intelligent footballer, terrific in defense. The only side of his game you could criticise fairly is his lack of barnstorming carries of old. However as has been posted many times already, with SOB carrying so much Heaslip does a lot of the work on the ground. A fair compromise in my opinion. To the haters who give him no credit at all, of course Kidney, Gatland & Schmidt are wrong to pick him, sure what would they know?
When is Jamie going to release the journal staff?
excellent timing Murray to wait until he actually did something for Ireland and then write the article – over-rated and over paid.
Excellent article, he can only do the glam stuff when he plays with a true open side. His critics are usually those who haven’t a clue about rugby.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1758961-ranking-the-6-best-number-eights-in-rugby-history/page/6
What an excellent article that needed to be written. I think a major factor in Heaslip’s evolution to his current role has been the conversion of SOB from 6 to a 7 both with Leinster and Ireland. That has taken a bit of time and Heaslip’s role has had to change to accommodate it and provide balance. POM for all his obvious talents is not renowned for his breakdown and ruck work so we are blessed to have someone like Heaslip with his phenomenal work rate and skills.
Very much enjoy your recent analysis pieces Murray , keep it up.Great insights.
I’d love for the Munster/Leinster shyte talk to stop though but hey ho , ” never a need to pack an arsehole “
If you like you can get me in a scrum and destroy me. Naked of course, all you have to do is ask…..
SOB a future irish captain Not 80 mins in BOD Impact sub maybe We need Best Give Luke Marshall more space Luke Fitzgerald is beyond it Cant wait to see a fit Tommy O Donnell back
v.good analysis, 8 is a hard position when you are doing a lot of donkey work most of the time
Christ is it any wonder the Irish team can’t put a string of performances together when fans can’t see outside their own provinces!! My take on this is heaslip is a savage player when he concentrates he is definitely guilty of going missing in games…