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Finally, Lions selection debates become very real as Six Nations arrives

Joe Schmidt welcomed Warren Gatland into Ireland camp earlier this week.

WARREN GATLAND WAS an interested spectator at Ireland training on Tuesday at Carton House, with photos of the Lions boss โ€“ on leave from his position as Wales head coach โ€“ sparking some speculation that Joe Schmidt might have reeled in his session.

Joe Schmidt with Warren Gatland Warren Gatland speaks to Joe Schmidt at Ireland training on Tuesday. Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

When you ask Schmidt if he hid some of his best moves when Gatland was watching on, the Ireland head coach laughs.

โ€œNo, we trained fully!โ€ says Schmidt. โ€œIn the end, thereโ€™s not much thatโ€™s secret in the world of rugby anyway. It may be secret from one week to the next, and then everyone does their analysis and figures out what youโ€™re doing.

โ€œThere wasnโ€™t too much that was secretive. We had an hour or two of a chat after training and chatted about all sorts of things.โ€

Schmidt hopes to get across to New Zealand for the tail end of the Lions tour after his Ireland team take on Japan in two Tests in June.

He says himself and fellow Kiwi native Gatland discussed what the Lions tour will involve and some of the conditions they will play in.

โ€œWe didnโ€™t talk too much about who will be playing because thatโ€™s a decision for him and his coaching staff, certainly not mine,โ€ says Schmidt.

Gatland found his visit to Carton House beneficial, although he may not have welcomed being in the middle of the latest confirmation of an injury to Johnny Sexton, the Lions out-half in 2013.

Ex-Ireland boss Gatland appreciated getting insight into how Schmidtโ€™s team train, particularly given that it contrasts with how some of the other Lions nations go about their business.

โ€œIreland tend to run their sessions one-a-day, whereas England and Wales tend to have two sessions a day โ€“ in the morning and the afternoon,โ€ says Gatland.

โ€œSo, it is just about understanding the pressures that the players are going through and that things arenโ€™t a big shock when the team comes together.

โ€œIโ€™m just having a look at the training session, the intensity of the session and how it ran and I was able to got to the team meeting before training. I was lucky enough to sit down for a lunch with Joe and have a good chat, which was pretty beneficial.โ€

Joe Schmidt Schmidt's Ireland trained in the rain yesterday. Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

While Schmidt says individual Irish players were not discussed, the former Leinster head coach did give Gatland detail on the mentality of his playing group.

โ€œThe big thing that came out of the conversation with him was what a good bunch of guys they are โ€“ good players, pretty humble, work hard and good professionals,โ€ says Gatland.

โ€œWhen you come to a bigger squad, sometimes you are trying to finalise the last few players and you are looking at player personalities, characteristics and making sure that you pick the right guys in terms of fitting in.

โ€œMy experience in the past with the Lions is that if you can get things right off the field, you have a chance of getting it right on it.โ€

As is normal procedure, every player in the Ireland squad had their photo taken in a Lions shirt last week in order to provide headshots for when Gatland names his finalised squad. Scotland, England and Wales players all did the same.

With Gatland also present at training this week, it would be entirely normal for a few thoughts of touring New Zealand this summer to stray into Irish playersโ€™ minds.

But Schmidt says he doesnโ€™t even need to address any potential distraction among his squad.

โ€œIt hasnโ€™t come up in one single conversation,โ€ says Schmidt. โ€œIโ€™ve no doubt in the back of their minds that theyโ€™d love to get a red jersey at the end of May, but at this given pointโ€ฆ even theyโ€™re so used to playing in provincial games that mean a lot to them โ€“ thatโ€™s their full focus at that time and then they step it up for national honours.

โ€œAt the same time, there is probably a hope in their head that they will get recognised for national honours, so itโ€™s similar to that.โ€

Warren Gatland Gatland will attend Ireland v Scotland and Italy v Wales this weekend. Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

Gatland โ€“ who recently undertook a recce of New Zealand to view team hotels and training bases, as well as travel some of the journeys the Lions will take โ€“ wonโ€™t name his final squad until 19 April, but this Six Nations is a prime audition.

The head coach still envisages bringing 37 players - 20 forwards, 17 backs โ€“ but says he may stretch that figure if any selection decisions are too finely balanced.

He hasnโ€™t added any further coaching staff since the announcement of assistants Andy Farrell, Rob Howley and Steve Borthwick in December, but hopes to do so within the next month.

His scouting of players continues this weekend as he heads to Murrayfield on Saturday, then flies to Rome for Walesโ€™ clash with the Italians the next day.

Round two will see Gatland take in Walesโ€™ home clash with England on the Saturday, before a trip to Paris for Scotlandโ€™s visit to les Bleus.

So, the race is very much on for Lions places, even if the head coaches and players involved in the Six Nations cannot afford to focus that far into the future.

For the rest of us, and Gatland, the debates and discussions are only going to grow in the coming weeks as individuals stand out and others succumb to injury or poor form.

Down in New Zealand, meanwhile, they canโ€™t wait โ€“ as Gatland found out on his most recent visit.

โ€œNew Zealanders are incredibly excited about the Lions. Weโ€™ve got to a little bit of PR from 2005 because people keep asking me if Alistair Campbell is coming or if we are bringing two teams and two coaching set-ups. Apart from that they are really excited.โ€

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    Mute patrick
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:22 AM

    Pity to see him go. He was one of the best defenders to play the game

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:51 PM

    Ever !

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:29 AM

    That hook in the replay was pivotal.

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    Mute offtheball
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    Dec 5th 2014, 2:55 PM

    And from a Tipp point of view โ€“ should a player of Callananโ€™s calibre and experience have allowed himself to be hooked? Remember how a young and inexperienced Shane Oโ€™Donnell batted the ball to the net in a similar situation in last years All Ireland.
    Anyway JJ was quite simply a class defender โ€“ no arguments there!!

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    Mute Jonny Coffey
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:23 AM

    The sport has lost a lot of legends this summer. FairPlay JJ, an exceptional career from an exceptional player.

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    Mute RobsonKeane
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Heโ€™ll be the biggest loss of all the retirees. With the greatest of respect he was still first choice (and playing well) this summer while the other four were squad members and getting a few minutes off the bench here and there. Class player in fairness, heโ€™ll leave a huge void on that defence. Phenomenal in the air and a fantastic reader of the game. Best wishes to him.

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    Mute Shane McDonnell
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:39 AM

    Jesus I was certain he would stay on and try get 10

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    Mute Kieran Flub Fanning
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:46 AM

    One of the finest hurlers to ever grace the field

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:51 PM

    And toughest !

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    Mute Vince Goggin
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:30 AM

    With all the 9 time winners retiring, Shefflinโ€™s record may stand the test of time!

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    Mute Kevin McMahon
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:27 AM

    Some player. The most consistent hurler Iโ€™ve ever seen

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    Mute Mervyn Queally
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:50 AM

    Ah no. Please one more year. If he had been around in 1912 he would have blocked the hole in the titanic

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    Mute Roy Ska Butler
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:24 AM

    One of the most complete defenders in the game, awesome talent, first on every team sheet. Thanks JJ for the fantastic memories. Gutted to see you go but every player must walk out to the sunset. Your Hook this year in the All Ireland is a fantastic final memory of a glittering career. You owe hurling nothing everything left on the pitch. Slan

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    Mute Pete A
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Ah shite!

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    Mute george holmes
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:52 AM

    What a player, pity he didnโ€™t go for his 10th all Ireland. Been a pleasure to watch over the years for both club and county.

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    Mute GerHennellyJr
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:38 AM

    Just a legend. Simple as that.

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    Mute John Ryan
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:11 AM

    Have to say one of de greatest backs ever to Grace a hurling pitch, and that comes from a wexford man happy retirement jj

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    Mute Neil Crowley
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:53 PM

    Best defender I ever saw and thatโ€™s from a Corkonian. Wing back was his best position. 2004 final, he was on one wing and Sean Og on the other. Both had blinders. Glad I was there to see it. No other player I ever saw can go from wing back to full back and be as good. I stayed quite on the other retirements but had to comment on this guy.

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    Mute David o'neill
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    Dec 5th 2014, 1:11 PM

    An awesome player Brian Cody called him the best defender heโ€™s even seen !!! I think that says it all !!

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    Mute Cathal O'Donoghue
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:21 PM

    Irreplaceable. Simple as that. As are tommy Walsh and Henry. Kilkenny will be strong next year but no one can fill these boots. And Iโ€™m a Tipp man.

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    Mute Ed Holton
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:27 PM

    Pity to see JJ retiring sad day!just hope jackie doesnโ€™t follow suit now! Two rocks in the full back line for years!

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    Mute lousybush
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    Dec 5th 2014, 4:28 PM

    Noel Hickey was replaced by JJ, Henery Shefflin filled the gap left by DJโ€ฆ Donโ€™t get too excited that KK will be a spent forceโ€ฆ JJ was the best defender I ever seen play, plus a true gent

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    Mute jack hammer
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Great hurler great team, hopefully with alot of the old gaurd retiring they will be considerably weakened from a hopeful cork langer!!!

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    Mute Cian Irwin
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:25 AM

    I say good. Great player but now that so many Kilkenny players are retiring maybe they will stop dominating every year and it will get more interesting.

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    Mute Dara O'Brien
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:27 AM

    Cian โ€“ sorry to tell you but, there are many more coming up this year โ€“ you may be (un)pleasantly surprised โ€ฆ

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    Mute Cian Irwin
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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Haha. I know Dara. Unfortunately Kilkenny do have many more amazing players in their squad and coming through but Iโ€™d just love to see Limerick win one :)

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    Mute sean de paore
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    Dec 5th 2014, 2:42 PM

    Great hurler. Huge loss. Hard act to follow at fullback for Kilkenny.

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    Mute David Kirwan
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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:52 PM

    Defending is an art form in itself. I doubt there has ever been a player who showcased it better. He was always on his mans shoulder, he had an intrinsic sense of where to hook or block, he knew how to shepard his man away from goal, he fouled inconspicuously, he fielded ball he had no right to, he was equally tough, brave and competitive. Not to mention his ability with the ball in hand. His hook on Callinan in the replay was a fitting final reminder to us all of his greatness.

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    Mute Pud
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:12 AM

    There retiring before Cody gives them the cold shoulder!!!! As he would eventually !!

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    Mute Eoin Comerford
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:13 AM

    I suppose this means we can write them off now!

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    Mute Who's Yer Man
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    Dec 5th 2014, 2:07 PM

    Haha, been written off before, but itโ€™s a massive gap in defence to plug now.

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    Mute Fearghal Brennan
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:40 AM

    Who was better, JJ or Tommy Walsh?

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    Mute Mervyn Queally
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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:51 AM

    JJ.

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    Mute Who's Yer Man
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    Dec 5th 2014, 2:07 PM

    JJ, only because he always keeps a cool head. Kilkenny wouldnโ€™t have been so dominant without him in defence.

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