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'We're incredibly keen to support the provinces': Schmidt explains overseas selection policy

The issue has come into sharp focus this week following the omission of Ian Madigan.

IRELAND HEAD COACH Joe Schmidt has moved to clarify the IRFUโ€™s overseas player selection policy by insisting the likes of Ian Madigan are still on the radar, but limited availability reduces their chances of being picked.

pjimage (1) Ian Madigan and Marty Moore. Inpho / PA Inpho / PA / PA

Schmidt also reiterated that the union are โ€˜incredibly keen to support the provincesโ€™ and selecting foreign-based players over those plying their trade at home would undermine the IRFUโ€™s contract system.

The issue has come into sharp focus this week following the omission of Madigan from Irelandโ€™s Six Nations squad and the decision to call Ian Keatley into the panel after Johnny Sexton was ruled out of Saturdayโ€™s game against Scotland.

Madigan has fallen down the international pecking order since his move to Bordeaux Begles last year and despite being drafted in for the summer tour of South Africa, he knew his international career would be put on hold with a switch to France.

Schmidt described the situation as a โ€˜real frustrationโ€™ because even if he was to select Madigan, the out-halfโ€™s availability wouldnโ€™t be under IRFU jurisdiction and he would return to his club in-between Six Nations fixtures.

When asked about the inclusion of Keatley, who has seen limited game time at 10 for Munster having been understudy to Tyler Bleyendaal this season, in the matchday 23 for Saturdayโ€™s game at Murrayfield, Schmidt said the policy on selecting overseas players hasnโ€™t changed.

โ€œNo it hasnโ€™t [changed]. Ian Keatleyโ€™s time at out-half is not too much different to Ian Madiganโ€™s,โ€ he said this afternoon at Carton House.

Joe Schmidt Schmidt speaking at today's team announcement. Gary Carr / INPHO Gary Carr / INPHO / INPHO

โ€œIan had an injury and was out for about four weeks. Heโ€™s been mixing up starts and coming off the bench like he did two weeks ago against Ulster. Ian couldnโ€™t train with us last week.

โ€œWe only trained on the Tuesday and then the Thursday and Friday. Thursday, Friday, he was preparing to come off the bench for Bordeaux against Clermont. I mentioned those training windows earlier on. I think the other thing is weโ€™re incredibly keen to support the provinces.

โ€œIf we demonstrate to players that weโ€™re happy to pick players outside of Ireland then potentially one of the big draw cards for keeping them here will be lifted and players will more likely go overseas.

โ€œI think one of the big things that keeps them here is the player management and they know they are closer to the front of the queue in the competition to play for their national team.โ€

Schmidt added that the likes of Madigan and Wasps prop Marty Moore are still very much available to him if required but, again, it comes down to player management.

โ€œThey havenโ€™t gone away,โ€ he said. โ€œIโ€™ve had some good conversations with Ian lately, itโ€™s not like heโ€™s disappeared off the radar.

Ian Keatley Keatley is on the bench as cover for Paddy Jackson for Saturday. Dan Sheridan / INPHO Dan Sheridan / INPHO / INPHO

โ€œWe know we can whistle him in but we also know that during the Six Nations period that weโ€™ll play two matches and heโ€™ll have to go back. We play one match and heโ€™d have to go back and then weโ€™d get to play the last two matches. Itโ€™s not like you get a continuity of work space with the actual player so thatโ€™s a real frustration for us.

โ€œItโ€™s the same with Marty. At the same time, Marty was probably ahead of Tadhg [Furlong] in the Leinster hierarchy of tightheads when he left and Tadhg has come through. John Ryan is working his way through, Finlay Bealham has played a lot including coming off the bench against the All Blacks so it has probably allowed an opportunity for other people.

โ€œThis time last year nobody was talking about Joey Carbery and unfortunately Joey has picked up an injury but at the same time he launched himself into the limelight and I very much doubt that would have happened if Ian Madigan was actually there.

โ€œI think thereโ€™s flip sides either way and itโ€™s not an ideal situation not to have every player whoโ€™s Irish-qualified on the island and immediately available. The ones that are overseas are available but fluctuating availability and thatโ€™s a little bit frustrating in the preparation youโ€™re trying to have.โ€

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    Mar 28th 2012, 10:36 PM

    Well done Sir.

    You are a credit to your parents and show people that though they can suffer depression that they can still manage it. Your laying it out straight. Great meas in you.

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    Mar 28th 2012, 10:40 PM

    Nice one. Great to see someone like this talk about these problems

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    Mar 29th 2012, 1:59 AM

    Who are the bottom feeding monkey shite who neg a comment like this?

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    Mar 29th 2012, 2:00 AM

    I just gave my last comment the thumbs upโ€ฆ.sโ€™nice

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    Mar 29th 2012, 3:52 PM

    Fair play to Alan coming out and talking about depression. A brave thing to do for such a high profile figure

    @James โ€“ Regarding the thumbs down, i read a post recently where someone said they didnโ€™t mean to โ€˜thumb downโ€™ a comment, but the problem was that they were viewing the Journal on a smartphone and they would press the thumbs down by accident when they were scrolling through the comments.

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    Mar 28th 2012, 10:58 PM

    Well done Quinny! For a player whoโ€™s nickname was cheeky and to to survive for so long in a career thatโ€™s perceived to be โ€œmachoโ€ itโ€™s an even bigger credit to you for speaking out. Hopefully itโ€™ll make life easier for others to do the same.

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    Mar 28th 2012, 10:54 PM

    Great stuff. Each day is an opportunity for โ€œself helpโ€ or โ€œself pityโ€ the decision comes slowly to those with depression. Thankfully by talking about it people turn a huge corner and help others. Well done.

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    Mar 29th 2012, 8:28 AM

    Another great sportsman hitting his depression head on, depression is of biblical proportions in this country and only now are we talking about it, the reasons why people hid it in the first place in actual fact was because they really did not know what they hadโ€ฆ. Nothing to be ashamed of. I am 44 , ex soldier, hard as nails ( well not really) been suffering for 7 years , no meds at the moment as I have an underlying problemโ€ฆ But hey bad days are bad, good days are few but help is coming soon.

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    Mar 29th 2012, 8:11 AM

    Well done Alan . I hope the media give it huge coverage especially in the sports pages as alot of the time they are the only pages young people read and they do need to understand more than anything else that depression is nothing to be ashamed of or fear . Sadly our graveyards are full of young men who were to afraid to seek help

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    Mar 29th 2012, 3:53 PM

    Great post Jerry, well said

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    Mar 29th 2012, 8:07 AM

    If Quinny saves one person from years of depression and missed positive experiences what a man he is and deserves all life can bring him keep it up lad : )

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    Mar 29th 2012, 9:28 AM

    Great to see sufferers open up and talk so frankly about it. As someone who suffers from depression, I take great comfort in watching someone get it out in the open. Depression comes in many forms and at different levels of severity.

    Stereotypically we think of sufferers locked away in a dark room, crying and drinking heavily, listening to Morrissey. In reality, itโ€™s very different. Reason , logic and rational thinking are thrown out the window and instead you are bombarded with negative thoughts, that you believe. Men are much more likely to suffer as we think that looking for help is a weakness, and that we can do it by ourselves. We canโ€™t.

    The road to recovery isnโ€™t as daunting as you may think. Pick up the phone and talk to someone.

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