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Ireland give defensive masterclass to hold European champions to a draw in front of 12,000 fans

The women’s national team put in a heroic performance in Nijmegen this evening.

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Ireland 0

IRELAND’S WOMEN HAVE earned a huge result in their 2019 World Cup qualifying campaign tonight.

Facing the current European champions at the sold-out 12,000-capacity De Goffert Stadion, the Girls in Green put in a immense defensive display and enjoyed a bit of luck to come away with a hard-earned point.

An impressive start to the Group 3 had seen Colin Bell’s side claim two wins on the road — away to Northern Ireland and Slovakia — but this would undoubtedly prove their toughest test against a nation who hadn’t lost a qualifier since October 2013.

Ireland travelled to Nijmegen without several experienced players as Megan Campbell, Aine O’Gorman, Stephanie Roche, Ruesha Littlejohn and Claire Walsh were missing through injury.

Reading’s Sophie Perry came in a right full-back, while the other change meant a return for Karen Duggan with teenager Leanne Kieran dropping to the bench and Amber Barrett leading the line.

Dutch boss Sarina Wiegman started 10 of the starting line-up that defeated Denmark in the Euro 2017 final on home soil back in August, and the Euro 2017 winners also came into the game on maximum points from their first two qualifiers.

Barcelona forward Lieke Martens, who was named Uefa Women’s Player of the Year back in August, began on the left side of a front three.

With a full house behind them, the Netherlands attempted to take control from the off but just three minutes in, McCabe split the opposing defence open with a through-ball from deep and Barrett raced clear.

On this occasion, the Peamount United striker was snuffed out as Stephanie van der Gragt got back to nudge her marker and make a recovering tackle. The 21-year-old was causing all sorts of problems playing off the shoulder of the last defender and had three more chances in the first half but, unfortunately, her finishing let her down.

Down the other end, a goal-line clearance was needed to prevent Ireland from falling behind as Van der Gragt rose highest to head on target from a corner and Tyler Toland booted away.

Holland skipper Sherida Spitse called Marie Hourihan into action for the first time on 19 minutes, but the Ireland goalkeeper got behind the long-distance effort well.

On the half-hour mark, Manchester City stopper blocked a goalbound shot from Desiree van Lunteren and, from the resulting corner, Toland was again well-placed to prevent Martens opening the scoring with a brilliant volley.

Arsenal striker Vivianne Miedema cracked a strike off the post before half-time too, but the sides went in scoreless at the break.

Jackie Groenen with Tyler Toland Jackie Groenen of the Netherlands and Ireland's Tyler Toland. Orange Pictures / Rob Koppers/INPHO Orange Pictures / Rob Koppers/INPHO / Rob Koppers/INPHO

Bell made a change at the beginning of the second half by bringing on the fresh legs of Shelbourne’s Leanne Kiernan in place of Barrett, while the Dutch introduced Renate Jansen for Van Lunteren.

The hosts dominated possession again after the interval and Hourihan had to save from Danielle van de Donk, Spitse and Miedema. But this Ireland team are extremely organised under Bell — having recorded seven clean sheets in nine games since the Englishman took over earlier this year — and they continued to stand strong as the minutes ticked down.

Miedema, who has 49 international goals to her name, got on the end of a cross to flick a volley over the bar and then poke wide under pressure from the excellent Louise Quinn.

The home crowd vented their frustrations when the ball hit the hand of Diane Caldwell in the box on 87 minutes, only for Russian referee Anastasia Pustovoitova to wave play on.

And Ireland held out to finish the calendar year level at the top of Group 3 with their latest opponents on seven points.

THE  NETHERLANDS: Sari van Veenendaal; Desiree van Lunteren (Renate Jansen 46), Anouk Dekker, Stephanie van der Gragt, Dominique Janssen; Jackie Groenen, Sherida Spitse (c), Danielle van de Donk (Kike van Es 83); Shanice van de Sanden (Jill Roord 59), Vivianne Miedema, Lieke Martens.

IRELAND: Marie Hourihan; Sophie Perry, Louise Quinn, Diane Caldwell, Harriet Scott; Tyler Toland, Niamh Fahey, Karen Duggan, Katie McCabe (c); Denise O’Sullivan, Amber Barrett (Leanne Kiernan 46).

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:20 PM

    7 for sexton and 6 for Murray? I thought sexton was the worst Irish player on the park, not a slight on him at all, just it was obviously his first run out and he was rusty and below his own standards. Murray had his best game of 2019 today. Looked sharp, moved the ball quickly and passing was on point and even had the odd snipe.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:21 PM

    @Jim Demps: agree, felt this was one of Murray’s best games since coming back from injury. Don’t understand how he was a six

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:27 PM

    @Jim Demps:
    Likewise, this was Sexton’s best game in green, and probably blue, since november.
    I think both are still some way off the form they need to show.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:28 PM

    @Jim Demps: Murray brought back the awful box kicking we’d do well to see the back of.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:28 PM

    @Jim Demps: I agree that Sexton wasn’t at it today. But Sexton getting 7 and Murray getting 6. Why are you comparing? Are you doing the usual Munster versus Leinster ‘carry on’? Not arguing, just don’t get it.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:40 PM

    @Jim Demps: what’s your view on luke McGrath. Surely marmion should be in the squad

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:44 PM

    @Jim Demps: what planet are you on? Marmion should be in the squad ahead of Murray. Today he was his usual slow, docile and befuddled self. Probably the worst Irish scrumhalf at the moment

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:50 PM

    @Jim Demps: Murray was slow enough getting around the place, had a couple of poor passes (one to Earls stands out in particular) and made some odd decisions on the ball. A 6 is hardly a harsh rating for that performance. Didn’t think Sexton was much better. They were both solid, which is a massive step up from how they were in the Six Nations.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:09 PM

    @Con O’Hannrachàin: And Stuart Quinn

    “marmion should”

    This is not about the Club player it is about the squad playing for Ireland ::get off your cub and get behind Ireland and who are playing for them !!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:32 PM

    @James: just thought it was odd that a guy who played well got less of a mark than a guy who didn’t. Nothing more to it than that.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:33 PM

    @Con O’Hannrachàin: I think it was a tight call between the 3 scrum halves behind Murray. I personally wouldn’t have picked him but I wouldn’t begrudge him either. He brings something the others don’t.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:33 PM

    @Stuart Quinn: nah you’re way off the mark there.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:37 PM

    @ScewMadd: I’ve no idea what ye were looking at. I thought Murray was excellent, our defence when he’s not playing can look very narrow, but watch today how many tackles he made outside the outside centre, did Wales have one clean break? He’s a different class to all our other scrumhalves, there’s some myth that the smaller lads are somehow quicker to the ruck & give quicker ball, not at the very top level they don’t. Marmion, McGrath or Cooney would not be starting scrumhalf for any of the top teams, Murray is a lion test player for a reason

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:26 PM

    @Jim Demps: I think both are short of where we want them to be unfortunately….. but let’s keep the fingers

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:03 PM

    @Jim Demps: Jim Leinster bad munster good. We know him we know

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:29 PM

    @Jim Demps: I genuinely forgot Stander and Kleyn were playing today. I turned to my mate because I thought there were no Munster players on the pitch after Murray went off. We had to go through everyone on the pitch before we realized he was still there. Murray had his best game in 2019 because that wouldn’t be hard. Sexton still not at his best, but he’s definitely getting there, aside from that kick on the full, didn’t do much wrong. Kleyn anonymous. Kearney he usual imperious self, watching him off the ball, his movement and anticipation is a sight to behold. Earls a 6? Very harsh, thought he was excellent as well, same with Larmour.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:38 PM

    @Alan Roddy: buddy you’d want to ask gatland & patchell if stander was playing today, without being disrespectful, patchell hasn’t a clue & gatland is saying ‘oh f*ck’

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:21 PM

    Conan was never ahead of Stander for the 8 shirt and even the commentators were noting how he was once again not “setting the world alight” in green. Today further cemented the POM, VDF and Stander backrow.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:23 PM

    @Rochelle: Conan isn’t good enough at top tier test level unfortunately, and his lack of any versatility is also a huge minus factor.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:27 PM

    @Rochelle: agree but Ruddock threw his hat in the ring today too. His physicality at 7 or off the bench will be useful

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:43 PM

    @Rochelle: Stander hasn’t been up to it lately. Conan wasn’t brilliant today at 8, but he was good enough, Stander hasn’t been good there for a long time for Ireland. I think they balanced well. I think having Stander on the pitch is important, but I’d say there’s room for both. POM could do with getting some form back. JVDF was great again today.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:47 PM

    @Rochelle: I’m a fan of the CJ,Conan,Pom backrow myself. With Ruddock and Beirne on the bench

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:14 PM

    @amusing_musings:

    I think they balanced well.

    Conan and CJ played well together and were involved in about 4 tackles together knocking back Wakes :: CJ had his best game for a good while::

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:14 PM

    @PScald:

    VDF ???

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:41 PM

    @Martin Quinn: I’m not a huge fan Martin. Not a bad player by any means. I just dont think I’ve ever seen him command a game from backrow like I’ve seen Leavy, pom, CJ Conan and Ruddock do. A complimentary player, not one you build your backrow around. Just my opinion

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:05 PM

    @Rochelle: you must be very upset that Ireland won.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 8:40 PM

    @PScald: yeah with Ryan and Hendy in the row, would be great

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    Sep 7th 2019, 9:14 PM

    @Rochelle: I think we saw the starting back row today, CJ ahead of P O’M, with JC at 8, we didn’t contest an opposition lineout today, so no need for O’M.

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    Sep 8th 2019, 12:21 AM

    @Rochelle: Stander a far superior back row to Conan but it’s about balance. Stander plays his best rugby at 6 & O’Mahony can shift in at 7. Having Stander at 8 will allow O’Mahony with 1 of Ruddock or VDF to start but he’ll be nowhere near his best. Perhaps Ruddock can shift to 8

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:23 PM

    Jack Conan went missing today as usual. People talking about what he brings to the side but we saw none of it the last two games. Dave Kilcoyne should be in front of Cian Healy. Big Sexy and Murray were very good today. And what else can you say about James Ryan? Up there as one of the best locks in the world and no where near his prime.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:26 PM

    @Dave Barry: bit harsh to say conan went missing. He showed up for work and put in a decent shift but I don’t think he did anything to suggest he’s in control of the 8 jersey. I’m not particularly sure he suits Ireland’s style of play and isn’t dominant enough defensively like stander is. Conan’s a great guy to have in the mix though.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:27 PM

    @Dave Barry:
    Conan had 15 carries, same as Stander and made more meters. He put a couple of big tackles in as well, that’s hardly going missing. Agree with Kilcoyne, he was massive again. Thought Sexton and Murray were only ok, both still look rusty

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:28 PM

    @Jim Demps: what’s your view on McGrath

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:32 PM

    @Jim Demps: Thought he was very poor. People can point to stats but we all have eyes ourselves. Wasn’t dominant in anything he did and I forgot he was playing by the end of the game.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:01 PM

    @Con O’Hannrachàin: Luke?

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:15 PM

    @Umpaloompa: Conan made 11 meters from 15 carries with Stander getting 2 meters fewer, hardly anything to boast about. The can’t break the gain line meaning Murray is going backwards. Time to try POM, VDF and Ruddock.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:57 PM

    That’s more like it. Nice to see Cronin nail a few hard throws to the back of the lineout. Looks like we have two top class front rows with Porter and Kilcoyne good enough to start
    Aki is the man. Henshaw fantastic in his natural position.
    Kearney really good
    Ryan and CJ outstanding
    Notable mention for Ruddock. What a player to have in reserve.
    With him, Kilcoyne, Porter, Carbery, Beirne and perhaps Conway in the bench. Ireland have great options
    Nice to see Sexton hitting some form. Thought he was really good for the 20mins 2nd half.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:22 PM

    @PScald: you are bang on with your assessment. Agree with everything you said. Thought Kearney was v good!!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:29 PM

    @PScald: I thought Kearney was very good. Thought Murray played well too. I’d like to see more of Ruddock. I think he’s good. Aki and Henshaw are a good pair. Sexton wasnt great but hes rusty so that game will bring him on. Killer is some sub to bring on. Think after today we are in a better position than a few weeks ago after England game.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:25 PM

    Never put huge store in player ratings, but some very weird ones in there.

    Kleyn & Conan given the same rating as Stander and Aki? Sexton rated higher than Murray? Larmour given a 6 and Earls not bothered with at all?

    Do ye just fire these up without a second look or what lads?!

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    Sep 8th 2019, 9:50 AM

    @Oval Digest: a journalist’s ratings. Subjective. I thought Murray had his best game in 12 months for Ireland his passing was crisp, accurate and fast. Wales’s attempts to slowdown Irelans’s ball made it difficult for Murray to get quick ball from the base of the rucks. Worth 8 for me.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:23 PM

    Would be worried for O’Mahony after Standers shift at 6 but Conan did nothing to make him nail down 8

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:48 PM

    @sean o mahony: Wouldn’t be worried at all. O’Mahony has proved his worth time and again for club and country. He will start against Scotland and Japan, no question.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:03 PM

    Thought Stander was at least an 8 today. Conceded one turnover but won two turnovers- one great choke tackle. Solid carries making ground and lively in lineout and defense. Blindside really gets the best out of him.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:25 PM

    @John Carey: standers close in carrying was unreal today. He’s probably after totally messing up wales’s chances by burying patchell. Fair chance they’re only left with biggar now

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:45 PM

    @John Carey: surprised they called those two lineouts at the end of the game to him. Good throws and he took them well. Didn’t really think he was that kind of a backrow lineout man.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:46 PM

    Larmour or Conway at 23? Honestly think after that solid showing Schmidt will give it to Jordan. One of his best games for Ireland today and looked lively throughout . Wish the wings got more ball though..

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:01 PM

    @Fade: One of them should start over Earls

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:44 PM

    @Simon Clarke:

    Earls is special and Stockdale is to come in !!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:13 PM

    @Simon Clarke: silly

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:25 PM

    Murray comes back and so do those interminable box kicks

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:42 PM

    @Simon Clarke: nothing wrong with the box kick, unless you think we can pass our way out of our half. If it’s worked well it should give us a 50/50 chance of getting the ball back. You kick to touch I’d say a good lineout would win it 80/90% of the time

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:42 PM

    @Tim Magner:

    It is part of our game and we will be using it ::just need to get it right ::
    We have trouble in the lineouts so will have to work ourselves out of it :: I believe we will ::it is our Squad and it is IRELAND

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:12 PM

    @Martin Quinn: I thought our lineout in the 2nd half was excellent. Cronin was spot on with every throw. We looked shaky at the start but when the ref pulled Wales for stepping in across the line there was no problem. We mightnt have looked great creatively today but defensively and physically we were brilliant. Now gatland has the problems we had in the 6ns

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    Sep 7th 2019, 8:46 PM

    @Martin Quinn: a few days ago you scoffed at the notion that Best was Tour captain and may not start the big games, Toner was no longer crucial. Did you notice what happened our line out stats when Best departed ? Do you think Joe noticed? Now you do know why Dev was sacrificed?

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:45 PM

    Good win but lineout is still a mess. Don’t see how we can accommodate two poor throwers in the team. Some of the calling was odd though.

    Ryan and Kilcoyne setting the tone again. They’ve been the standout players of the summer series.

    Aki has to start. His dynamism trumps Henshaw’s solidity and we have few game breakers.

    Kearney looked good but he continues to show zero interest in passing.

    Good cameo from Ruddock

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:21 PM

    @Emmet Martin: at the start it was but as the game went on it improved. I thought Sean Cronin was a big big winner today, his throwing was faultless, hitting guys at 6 consistently

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:11 PM

    @Tim Magner:

    Tim I looked back at it after the game and look at the lineouts Best throws were spot on but on 3 occasions we lifted to early and were out jumped by Wales :: as you know it is about all 3 things Through :::Lift :: Jump ::it is easy blame the thrower but when Cronin did it all 3 went well :: he did nothing different then Best :: something needs to be done:: OK Hen was on and that helped :: but still work to do :::

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:29 PM

    @Martin Quinn: I don’t know about that Martin, look at the 1st one thrown to no.2 in the lineout, a gentle, wobbly lob that tipuric had all the time in the world to intercept, if you’re throwing to 2 it has to be a bullet. Throwing to 4 or 6 is a different ballgame cos you’ve big lads jumping in front of you. Great day for best today, a great servant and a brilliant captain but if he’s starting in the WC we’ve serious problems. Scannell is the best thrower we have but I was delighted to see Cronin go so well today cos he’s our best all round hooker

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    Sep 7th 2019, 8:48 PM

    @Tim Magner: yeah but I just wouldn’t trust Cronan’s throwing to start a big game or win a clutch lineout in a QF. If the lineout melts down under Best, I couldn’t see Cronin coming in to solve it. Best excellent around the park today. Lineout just didn’t feel steady all match even where we won our ball it felt under pressure, harried

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    Sep 7th 2019, 9:10 PM

    @Emmet Martin: fair enough but no team in our group are going to cause us huge problems, gives Ryan a good chance to grow into the job. Mcinally for Scotland is a fine player but he’s as bad if not worse than any of our throwers

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    Sep 8th 2019, 9:53 AM

    @Emmet Martin: it is not the throwers fault. Ryan called a ball for CJ stander in the middle. He was jumping against Alun Wyn Jones who is much taller. Best throw the ball where directed. So it wasn’t a bad throw but a bad call by Ryan. The other issue is that the lifters must get their timing spit on too. Easy to blame the hooker but not always his fault.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:11 PM

    For me kilcoyne and Aki have been Ireland’s stand out players in the warm up games. James Ryan is just a serious operator and it all of a sudden looks slot better going into the world cup. Coybig!!!!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 6:15 PM

    My only bitch, I thought that the bias posts would stop when we all became one for the world cup :: 5 posts in a row and the best post was Jims

    I though Cj and Conan played well together and knocked wales back between them on many occasions :VDF was his all-consuming self ::some player :: Kilcoyne had a v great game and it is great to see we have 3 TOP props ::though Porter was nothing special ::J Kylne is still looking like a journeyman and please let me say I was looking for him to do well :: our Centres were great in defences at the top of their game and Attacking could do better but can see they will get better (even when Ringrose came on he did well ) Earls was his usal self but he was tied up by Wales .And R K had one of his very good games and showed why he is there:: Murray was back near his real game , some hard and fast passing and his partner is showing he is going in the right direction with very clear instructions and directions to his backs IMO all the team fronted up today they hit Wales early and often and HARD::

    Our Squad all of them from all Clubs did themselves proud ::for Ireland ok lads look beyond your noses :: if you want to come back at me just keep it to our squad not who they are !!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:40 PM

    Still have lineout issues but refs have to clamp down on teams closing the gap. Both England and Wales did it to us. England got away with it, Wales were penalised a couple of times for it but still infringed at every lineout. We didn’t challenge theirs and you could clearly see the gap. They were all over our side all day. Need to warn ref of this during matches at WC. Our lineout is shaky enough without adding this encroaching to the mix

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    Sep 7th 2019, 8:48 PM

    Improvements…
    -Offloads?! Wha?!?!
    -Excellent scrum…Porter being rode by a ref who was afraid to award the dominance we were showing at scrum time.
    -Kept the penalty count under 10.
    -very few line breaks against us.
    -kicked intelligently when the carrying game wasn’t working
    -Cronin did very well on his lineouts for the first time in ages, including a few to the back.
    -everyone is beginning to find a bit of form
    -a squad where a huge number of players are dipping in and out of positions and appearing to be relatively comfortable with it.

    Room to improve…
    -Murray and Sexton still have another gear to reach. Sexton’s intercept pass and errant 22 drop out…Murray frequently passed to the shoulder of the carrier and could have demanded cleaner ball at ruck time from both the ref and his forwards.
    -once again camping ourselves in the opposition 22 and not getting the desired result from the dominance. We were full value for a 9 point won bit it ought to have been 20 given how much more were in the contest.
    -I know we can’t help it, but I really hope we harness the emotion and fear around the qf as opposed to being overcome by it all.

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:44 PM

    Thought the 23 did very well. No drop in performance when replacements came on. We left some points behind but a good showing all the same. Well done!

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    Sep 7th 2019, 5:59 PM

    Sexton game management superb Rory we need you congrats immense ,Kilcoyne getting better and better superb,Klien not the wrecking ball we hoped and Hello Rob Kearney shut the front door class World Class

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    Sep 7th 2019, 4:30 PM

    And Earls?

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:03 PM

    Tough when Aki doesn’t pass the ball.

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    Sep 9th 2019, 12:05 AM

    @Gavin O’Donoghue: funny how Henshaw seemed to do ok outside aki this weekend?

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    Sep 8th 2019, 1:16 PM

    Sexton and Murray slowly getting back to there best..Both have missed a lot of Rugby so it will take a few games for them to get up to speed..I think Murray needs to improve his passing, but his experience is vital.. He got us that first penalty where the Welsh lads came up to early, and he was calling to the ref! Also think the line out will need a few games but I think it will benefit the forwards that Toner was left out, as we need more mobility in defence, Toner is to slow against the too teams, which can leave gabs in our defence..

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