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Pat Lam has recalled the big guns for Connacht's Challenge Cup quarter tomorrow

Think the Western province are taking the competition lightly? Think again.

CONNACHTโ€™S PRIMARY FOCUS may be on the Guinness Pro12 and securing an European berth for next season but Pat Lam is not putting all his eggs in one basket after naming a strong side to face Gloucester in tomorrowโ€™s Challenge Cup quarter-final.

The Western province have been knocked out of the competition at this stage on the last three occasions theyโ€™ve reached the quarter-finals but Lam is determined to end that run this time around.

Connacht travel to Kingsholm (7.45pm) on Good Friday and the head coach has included both Robbie Henshaw and Mils Muliania in his starting XV.

It will be Henshawโ€™s first appearance since returning from Six Nations duty, during which he played a pivotal role in Irelandโ€™s Championship win.

The centre will partner Danie Poolman, the competitionโ€™s leading try-scorer, in midfield while there has been a back-line reshuffle to accommodate Muliania who returns to the fray after injury.

Tiernan Oโ€™Halloran shifts to the right wing with the former All Black, who announced this week he would be leaving the Sportsgrounds at the end of the season, slotting in at fullback.

Craig Ronaldson recovers from illness but must settle for a place on the bench.

โ€œPlaying a quarter final in any competition is massive and to be involved in knock out rugby at this stage of the season is what everyone wants,โ€ Lam said.

In all, the head coach has made four changes from the side that suffered defeat at Thomond Park last time out.

Up front, South African Quinn Roux is named in the second row alongside Aly Muldowney while Andrew Browne starts at blindside flanker with captain John Muldoon wearing the number 8 shirt.

โ€œThereโ€™s no doubt that going into the cauldron that is Kingsholm is a challenge for any team. Top seeds Gloucester are a side with quality internationals and a lot of experience,โ€ Lam continued.

โ€œBut we have worked hard to get here and with a home semi final up for grabs, weโ€™re looking forward to facing that challenge head on as a team.โ€

Connacht qualified from Pool 2 as one of the best runners-up after a bonus-point win over La Rochelle on the last gameweek.

The game is live on Sky Sports 2 from 7pm.

Connacht:

15. Mils Muliaina
14. Tiernan Oโ€™Halloran
13. Danie Poolman
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. Matt Healy
10. Jack Carty
9. Kieran Marmion

1. Denis Buckley
2. Tom McCartney
3. Rodney Ah You
4. Quinn Roux
5. Aly Muldowney
6. Andrew Browne
7. Eoghan Masterson
8. John Muldoon (captain)

Replacements:

16. Shane Delahunt
17. JP Cooney
18. Finlay Bealham
19. Mick Kearney
20. James Connolly
21. Ian Porter
22. Craig Ronaldson
23. Darragh Leader

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    Mute Fergus Mccarthy
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:50 PM

    Who is Murray Kinsella??? Former player? Coach? Involved in provinces?? Superb analysis and love your articles. Well done on such attention to detail. Really fascinating.

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    Mute Jack O Donovan
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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:25 PM

    I believe he played for the u20s a few years ago?

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    Mute Elizabeth Gibson
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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:11 PM

    Murray, whatever they are paying you at the Journal itโ€™s not enough. These last few weeks you have provided us with the most comprehensive breakdown of games I have ever read. Love reading them. Thanks

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    Mute David Hopkins
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:04 PM

    Iโ€™m glad to see this article. When Heaslip transitioned his game four or five seasons ago the criticism of his play was fair. Since then heโ€™s been a largely unsung hero -despite lions caps, captaining his country and winning on a European stage for Leinster.

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    Mute Rory Dempsey
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:10 PM

    I agree! He has been so good recently, and the stats donโ€™t lie, his work rate is huge. He doesnโ€™t set off on bullocking runs like SOB, but he matches him in te other aspects of the game. People forget that playing for Ireland, especially against Aussie and Nz, is a step up from trotting out against almost everyone in the Heineken or Pro12 bar maybe Clermont

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    Mute Emmett McNamara
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:06 PM

    that was a great breakdown of his performance against the all-blacks but I understand the criticism leveled at him has been about the last 2 years? Or is it a similar case where he does the unseen dirty work?

    GAA man here myself so just asking!

    Also, I havenโ€™t seen this much analysis of a single rugby game wellโ€ฆ ever! Is this another form of us Irish wallowing in our own misery?

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:13 PM

    Hi Emmett. Yeah, the intention was to highlight what was a typical performance from Heaslip by using the example of one game. Most of the stuff mentioned in this piece is precisely what he has been doing for Ireland over the last two years.

    As for the second question, we have tried to do similarly detailed pieces over this November Test series, not just for this game.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:23 PM

    Seems to play more like a seven. Would he be playing open side if it wasnโ€™t for the ball control at back of scrum?

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    Mute Gavin Doyle
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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:02 PM

    You talk about the carries how many did the all blacks no 8 have how many did Australiaโ€™s and how many did Cian Healy have compared to heaslip and how many yards did each Mack when they took the ball on those are sort if questions that should have been asked. it would have been better to take your head out of his arse and really analyse his game against the Aussies and the all blacks and even though we were not playing them the French ,English and South Africans if we are wanting to be involved in the latter stages if the World Cup which is why Schmidt got the gig he will have to pick his game up big time .arriving at a ruck is not the same as hitting it

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:09 PM

    cheers Murray. Second question was more in jest!

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    Mute James O' Malley
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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:41 PM

    nothing stopping you starting your own blog and providing detailed analysis as youve highlighted seeing as youโ€™re so knowledgeable. its how murray kinsella started off (been reading your blog for a couple of years murray, correct me if im wrong on that point). you might want to work on your punctuation though, a comma or fullstop wouldnt go astray here or there, makes it difficult to read your rant.

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    Mute Gavin Doyle
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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:57 PM

    It isnโ€™t English class and I didnโ€™t ask you to read it. And if your going to put stuff up then you should expect a little criticism especially when your only coming from one side and not giving a balanced view

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    Mute James O' Malley
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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:25 PM

    well you didnโ€™t ask me not to read it so i did, and the punctuation is shite

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    Mute James O' Malley
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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:39 PM

    and asking someone to remove their head from their arse cant really be classed as criticism gavin, can it?

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    Mute Shane Flynn
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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:51 PM

    Iโ€™ve enjoyed the analysis Murray, I think its accurate and balanced (Iโ€™ve no opinion on Heaslip positive or negative). I think ye should keep it up for the provinces in the H Cup, and like this article keep it factual with examples. I see a lot of people tearing strips off Heaslip on here but I thought he played well.

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    Mute Gavin Doyle
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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:53 PM

    I said it would be better if he took his head out of Heaslips arse the way he was writing about him you would swear they were best buds .He is not in the top five of great no8s at the moment never mind of all time so how can he be written about in this manner.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:04 AM

    Well he did 1 on POM after the Samoa game who isnโ€™t one of the top 5 top 10 backrow players ireland have ever produced (evah!). It was a good piece written in a similar manner, most of us would like more on other players. Heaslip is a good player and he was better than Leamy when he took Leamys placeโ€ฆ.get over it!

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:23 AM

    Yep Sean he really does play like a 7 in many ways and not by accident. If people look back at when Heislip broke into the national team, bullocking runs with ball in hand was a big part of his game but when Sean Oโ€™Brien ( who is not a natural 7 ) started playing at open side Heislip was asked to alter his game a bit to do a lot of the dirty stuff that number 7s normally do which he does to great effect.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 10:50 AM

    Do you know much about rugby Gavin or are you just an arm chair supporter who listens to George Hook and thinkโ€™s itโ€™s gospel? Murray has provided detailed analysis of the type of game Heaslip plays and it proves what an immense player he is. You donโ€™t think Heaslip is in the top 5 number 8โ€ฒs in the world? This is the same Heaslip that started 2 Lions tests this year and 3 last time out? Yeah, maybe youโ€™re right, maybe heโ€™s not that good and both Schmidt and Gatland are amateur coaches who got it wrong! Not sure if I can post links to outside websites, but demented mole did a similar analysis of the Lions tests on rucks etc. Who came out on topโ€ฆโ€ฆ Heaslip! http://dementedmole.com/2013/10/30/ruck-marks/

    Heaslipโ€™s not a show pony back row who makes a couple of carries a game but then goes absent at ruck and tackle time. He works hard for 80 mins, game after game. Not many forwards can claim his work load. POM needs to take a look at Heaslipโ€™s performances and learn from them. Carrying alone aint good enough, especially for a blindside and especially at international level. Just cause you donโ€™t like Heaslip as a person, donโ€™t let that influence your opinion of him as a player. He has set the benchmark for Irish back rows and I for one am delighted to have him playing for my teams over the years!

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    Mute Gavin Doyle
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    Nov 27th 2013, 1:12 PM

    I can think for myself not like most of the sheep on here following .
    Everything ya said made no sense basically you are saying heaslip modified ya mean he has gone missing for the last few years does the unseen work he might as well not be there I have nothing against any player but the analysis was biased no comparisons to other teams no8 which might open your eyes if ya seen how many rucks were hit (not just arriving) ,how many balls were carried, how many yards gained when carried and how many tackles were made by other no8s but then that would be proving a point against heaslip

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    Mute Philip Conway
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    Nov 27th 2013, 2:01 PM

    The problem is youโ€™re thinking for yourself from a position of no knowledge as to whatโ€™s going on. If you think a player that makes 22 tackles in a game might as well not be there, then youโ€™re deluded! Iโ€™m not calling it unseen work. I know what Jamie does on the field, Murrayโ€™s pointed it out in depth here, I showed you an article from the demented mole where he points out the same and more importantly Kidney, Schmidt and Gatland know what he does and rate him very highly as a result! When youโ€™re of the opposite opinion to three coaches who have won trophies at the highest level you need to take a look at your own opinion and re-evaluate it! Plus, looking at one no.8โ€ฒs stats in one game and comparing it to another no.8 from a different game is unfair as different games have different environments. You might say look, Jamie only made 12 tackles in a game, but Picamoles made 20 in another game, therefore Picamoles is a better no.8. But what you miss is that Jamie played in a game where the opposition only had 40% possession and Picamoles could be playing in a game where the opposition had 80% possession. If you want to compare fairly, compare his workload to his team mate back row. Against new zealand Jamie made 21 tackles, SOB made 16 and POM made 8. Heaslip carried 9 time, SOB 7 and POM 3. So, who had the better game? Also, if you look at that article I quoted, youโ€™ll see that Jamie does more than just arrive at a ruck. You say heโ€™s not in the top 5, name 5 no.8โ€ฒs that are better than him!

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    Mute Paul Marconi
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    Nov 26th 2013, 10:40 PM

    Heaslip was playing opposite Kieran Reid, the nailed on world player of the year. Reid came off second best. Nuff sed.

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    Mute Ricky Spanish
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:22 PM

    Excellent breakdown.

    Heaslip is a beast, and does far more work than people give him credit for.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:30 PM

    Love these detailed analysis might work well for other sports

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:33 PM

    Really impressive analysis again, Murray. An informative and well researched article, well done.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:03 PM

    The main criticism of Heaslip is not his off the feld activities, as the writer tries to tell us, but his on the field activities โ€“ or lack of them, at least for Ireland anyway. For all the statistics bandied about, he simply does not reproduce for Ireland what he does for Leinster, but we wonโ€™t hear Rob Kearney calling him out on that, will we?. OK, he performed last Sunday against New Zealand, when just about every player rose to the occasion, but this was for the first time in years. When he retires from the Ireland set up, heโ€™ll be best remembered as being the first, and so far only, Irish international to be sent off since the advent of professionalism. Take a bow, Houdini Heaslip.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:18 PM

    Idiotic comment. Yes the sending off will always be on his record but he has been an outstanding international and lions player. Criticism of him is often based on provincial bias and is unfounded. He outplayed the best player in the world on Sunday.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:24 PM

    Hmm, I wonder where Frank is from.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:24 PM

    He was Ireland top tackler against Aus & I think one of the top in the 6 nations across all teams.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:29 PM

    Yeah, I acknowledged he played well against New Zealand, for the first time in eons and when every other Irish player played wel alsol. But outplay Kieran Read, as I assume you are referring to him, you must be having a laugh? Take off your blue tinted glasses, brother. If Heaslip did for Ireland on a regular basis what he does for Leinster pretty much every time he steps on the pitch for them he wouldnโ€™t be criticised. Players like BOD, Kearney, Healy do, so they donโ€™t get the same criticism. Heaslip doesnโ€™t โ€“ ergo he gets it. But thatโ€™s not what they want to hear on Planet Blue.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:29 PM

    Thats more than a little bit unfair Frank.

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    Mute KMJOB
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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:40 PM

    The point of the article is that he does play like this almost every week. Check his stats in games he plays. Heโ€™s regularly the top tackler. He always contributes to the breakdown. If he was so poor why did kidney make him captain? Why did he go on lions toor and play in first 2 tests? Every player has a bad game every now and then. I guess no matter what he does he will never please the lines of you brother.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:55 PM

    Be honest, you didnโ€™t read the article, did you?

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:59 PM

    Of course I did Fergal.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:48 PM

    you mean on planet earth frank? you got the wording wrong though, its the blue planet, not planet blue. easy mistake to make.
    โ€œhe performed last Sunday against New Zealand, when just about every player rose to the occasion, but this was for the first time in yearsโ€. nice compliment you gave him there, ya made sure you knocked him down again though with the rest of your post. your like super troll philip ryans long lost, more literate brother.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:16 PM

    Planet Blue was quite deliberate, James auld stock, shame you couldnโ€™t pick up on it and mixed it up with the name of a David Attenborough documentary. Second time youโ€™ve mentioned my supposed โ€œbuddyโ€, as you call him, this Philip Ryan and second time I am perplexed as to why you think his name should mean anything to me. I donโ€™t rate Heaslip, simple as, and his inclusion in various sides is down to the unprecedented dearth of quality no.8s in Ireland and these islands at this time. I think however that players like Oโ€™Brien or Oโ€™Mahony could do a far better job in that position for Ireland as ,besides at ,no.8, there are a huge number of quality backrow players around and these 2 versatile players could be moved to no. 8 and good backrow players like Henry, Oโ€™Donnell, McLaughlin or even Henderson or Muldoon can be accommodated in the positions they vacate. I appreciate the hurt you are feeling on behalf of poor Jamie though.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:37 PM

    oh i got it frank, dont worry. your point was very obvious.
    i include you and philbo in the same bracket, buddies if you will, in that you both come on here with your anti leinster agenda, thats all. i know youre not actual friends, just trolls of similar mindsets.
    dont worry about my feelings, though its kind of you to mention them.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:54 PM

    Another constructive post, Jimbo. No contradiction at all in you calling people parochial when you ascribe an โ€œanti leinster agendaโ€ to the criticism of one player. Nor any contradiction in you lecturing another poster here on punctuation on the evidence of that missive and your previous ones. I will look out for this Phillip you keep referring to as he seems like a dastardly rascal.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 10:32 PM

    Frank. You are an embarrassment to munster and our fans

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    Nov 26th 2013, 10:38 PM

    i only troll the trolls frank.
    youve posted more than once here, dont be so coy about your dislike for leinster.
    a comma or fullstop here and there isnโ€™t too much to ask for now is it? just made a comment to a guy whoโ€™s idea of critiquing murrays article was asking him, and i quote, โ€œit would have been better to take your head out of his arseโ€. not surprised youโ€™ll defend this level of commentry

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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:33 PM

    Actually, while I donโ€™t agree with Frank, he doesnโ€™t appear anti Leinster at all.

    Heโ€™s merely stating he doesnโ€™t think Heaslip is any good, and there are better players, even stating that Kevin McLaughlin at 6, to move Sean Oโ€™Brien to 8 would be better.

    Thatโ€™s hardly anti Leinster is it?

    Much in the same way if I said various Munster players were bad, while others are quality wouldnโ€™t make me anti Munster would it?

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:15 AM

    absolutely not. but like i said, this isnt the only topic heโ€™s posted on. read around the comments elsewhere. iโ€™m not basing my opinion on his dislike for heaslip.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:17 AM

    sorry that was me posting, dunno what happened

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:24 AM

    James, or Burt Chesterfield Livingston Jnr, or whatever youโ€™re calling yourself now. the likes of you are always so reactionary and one-eyed ( and yes, parochial) that your default reaction is to call others likewise and be childish and petty because you have little or nothing else to offer.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:34 AM

    i do read what you have to say frank. ive lots to offer but right now my time will be spent harassing you and your bitter and twisted diatribe against the โ€œevilโ€ that is leinster rugby

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:44 AM

    Still with the quotation marks put on fictitious quotes, Burt ? And you admit you want to be my stalker. Flattering, but, to put it in the ugly racist phraseology beloved of you, this โ€œuntermenschโ€ will swat you aside like a Red Army soldier would a spotty faced Hitler Youth.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 1:51 AM

    harass frank. different meaning to stalk. again your making up stuff for your little argument
    โ€œIs there any way Leinster can poach him before that or are Connacht safe for that period of time from their grubby, greedy hands as regards Hensahaw at least?โ€ (im quoting you here before you get all antsy) seems you have a strong dislike of leinster, with their grubby greedy hands, so i characterised them as evil for you. its a play on words, saves you some typing in future

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    Nov 27th 2013, 11:05 AM

    I never made up anything, Burt/James, youโ€™re the only one who has done that. What has the quote you have taken from the Henshaw thread got to do with this Heaslip other than the usual personal smear tactics you employ thread or have you completely lost the run of yourself and tied yourself up in knots yet again? Come on, stalker, up your game.. Youโ€™re not very interesting, you are completely unfunny and unentertaining and you are barley literate. Try to be relevant at least or Iโ€™ll just ignore you.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 6:23 PM

    Somewhat difficult to base an analysis of Heaslip based on the All Blacks game, where every Irish player was excellent. What about taking a wider cross section for analysis, to include games like against Munster in Thomond Park, where he was very quiet? The above article, in using the All Blacks performance as the lens for analysis, actually overlooks other aspects of his work, such as at the tail of the lineout where heโ€™s normally quite effective, but where Ireland didnโ€™t use him on Sunday. For the record, I think there are better backrows in Ireland, but basing analysis of Heaslip on one game is unfair to the player.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:00 PM

    Ah here! The entire Leinster team were quiet in Thomond park(still got the LBP). You could add the games against the Osprey and Castres(less so) to that list and you would come up with the same analysis as Murray above. He hasnโ€™t been consistently brilliant for Ireland but aside from SOB who has? POC has little recent(excl. the last 3 test) games for Ireland so Iโ€™m excluding him. Hasnโ€™t that been the problem with Ireland and not just one player?
    I donโ€™t think there are any better back row players in Ireland(why werenโ€™t they selected for the Lions, why did Kidney select him as captain).

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    Nov 26th 2013, 10:17 PM

    More articles like this please

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:36 PM

    Great article Murray!

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:05 PM

    Side noteโ€ฆ See how far offside McCaw is on last photo. Hindmost foot ehโ€ฆ Never seen such a high profile player get away with so many offsides. World class player who knows how to bend the rules

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:40 PM

    The reason he โ€ seemsโ€ to disappear in some games because he at the coal face and most likely at the bottom of a ruck or the middle of a maul. Many spectators miss these contributions and assume he โ€ disappearedโ€.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 10:32 PM

    These rugby comments are becoming a complete piss take with lads having fights with Eachother, very nearly had the biggest win in irish rugby history over the weekend and all you lads can do is bitch

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:45 PM

    Fantastically detailed and insightful. A level of relevance and insight George Hook could only dream of.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:47 PM

    You should send this to me hook. Total bias against Jamie every time. This is a great rebuttal.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:48 PM

    Mr hook

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:03 PM

    Ah the old โ€œunseen workโ€ chestnut.

    To be fair he was good enough against the ABs, but the criticism levelled at him in the last few years is because of his habit of disappearing during games.

    Hence the nickname Houdini :-)

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:32 PM

    Itโ€™s unseen by those who choose not to see. If you watch a game a one player makes 24 tackles and you donโ€™t see this well maybe you need a bigger TV because anyone who matters ie his coaches are not blinkered by your home town bull

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:13 PM

    In work I call it โ€œbehind the scenes workโ€.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 1:07 AM

    A very well written, well researched and intelligent piece of sports journalism and analysis, Murray. Kudos to you.

    With regards the points you made about Heaslipโ€™s actions at the defensive breakdown (slowing the ball down with his feet, dragging players into rucks to prevent them from joining their defensive line, etc), I think this is something that the Irish team should engage in more. We simply arenโ€™t as ruthless, nor do we โ€˜bend the rulesโ€™ as much as other nations. Look at McCaw, heโ€™s got that sort of cynical defensive game down to a T (the man hadnโ€™t been onside since WC 2003!). Itโ€™s the sort of behaviour that wins games; and championships too. After all, no one ever won anything by playing nice, did they?

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:45 PM

    Of course there was an article of Heaslip put up after one of the greatest Irish performances ever.. prior to Sunday he has been very quiet, and had little input to games, so pull yer heads out of his arse.. Imagine how good Sean O Brien would be at the break down (which is where 7โ€ฒs should specialise) if he didnโ€™t have to do the 8โ€ฒs job aswel (ball carrying).. Even this article which is clearly praising him says that although he made something like 9 carries, he made very little ground.. Not exactly flattering for the foward who is supposed to be a dominant ball carrier

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    Nov 27th 2013, 4:13 AM

    Great article Murray!! I would have been one of the first people to question Heaslipโ€™s performances for Ireland over the last couple of years, but your article raises many interesting points that I will certainly watch for in the future!!

    As you have said, and Iโ€™m inclined to agree, he does have a thankless job but he doesnโ€™t present himself, or stand out as much as the likes of Reade, Harinorduquay or Parisse do. I do wonder would having oโ€™brien at 8 and Heaslip at 7 make a difference!! Youโ€™d maintain Oโ€™Briens ball carrying abilities while putting Heaslip at 7 includes him more in the action!! I agree with everybody else by the way, keep the player profiles coming!!

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    Nov 26th 2013, 7:45 PM

    That โ€œunseen workโ€ canard is bandied about an awful lot for Houdini. As is the โ€œhome town bullโ€ by the Leinster crowd whenever anyone dares to criticise the performance of a Leinster player when playing in green ( theyโ€™re above all that, you see, except when someone who isnโ€™t from Leinster plays badly for Ireland, when they are perfectly justified to do so, you see, and it isnโ€™t parochial bias at all at all at all). There is a reason why Leinster players like Sean Oโ€™Brien arenโ€™t criticised for their performance for Ireland. And there is a reason why Jamie Heaslip is for his non-performances for Ireland.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 5:53 PM

    Play Rugby??

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    Nov 27th 2013, 7:53 AM

    These are extremely useful analyses Murray. Keep them coming.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:14 PM

    Heaslip? He doesnโ€™t do anything for Ireland. He gets sin binned, goes into discussion when heโ€™s not supposed to so really? When heโ€™s captain, you should lead by example. Somehow he doesnโ€™t seem to get whatโ€™s being asked of him. Please make someone else captain when the big boys retire, Peter Oโ€™Mahoney for example.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 8:49 PM

    And POM gets into handbags almost every game. His biggest game as Munster captain he fell out with the ref who refused to shake his hand at the end. Heโ€™s not ready yet, and IMO heโ€™s behind SOB.

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    Nov 26th 2013, 11:39 PM

    As for your โ€œhe gets sin binnedโ€ suggestion, that is just false.

    Jamie Heaslip has been sin binned on 7 occasions in his 192 game career. Only once for Ireland, which was last November I believe. Where I get my info: http://rugby.statbunker.com/players/GetHistoryStats?player_id=16623&comps_type=-1&dates=-1

    As stated in this article, Heaslip made 24 tackles on Sunday, and did a lot of unseen work, which Murray has conveniently shown us. I would call that leading by example wouldnโ€™t you?

    Although I do think that Oโ€™Mahony is a future captain, he has a lot to learn as Munster captain first, which Heaslip has had to learn in the last year.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 7:41 PM

    Heaslip made more tackles in the AB game than Pom made in all 3 games, he must be doing an awful lot of unseen work because the Munster boys love the non tackler and abuse the man who has to not only covers Oโ€™Brien as a ball carrier but also our non tackling no 6

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    Nov 27th 2013, 10:10 AM

    Excellent article Murray. Heaslip is a terrific asset to Irish rugby. He plays the most minutes per season for province & country, rarely gets injured (what an athlete), consistently performs at a high level, immense work rate, intelligent footballer, terrific in defense. The only side of his game you could criticise fairly is his lack of barnstorming carries of old. However as has been posted many times already, with SOB carrying so much Heaslip does a lot of the work on the ground. A fair compromise in my opinion. To the haters who give him no credit at all, of course Kidney, Gatland & Schmidt are wrong to pick him, sure what would they know?

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:46 PM

    When is Jamie going to release the journal staff?

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    Nov 27th 2013, 12:28 AM

    excellent timing Murray to wait until he actually did something for Ireland and then write the article โ€“ over-rated and over paid.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 7:34 PM

    Excellent article, he can only do the glam stuff when he plays with a true open side. His critics are usually those who havenโ€™t a clue about rugby.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 3:50 PM
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    Dec 11th 2013, 10:00 AM

    What an excellent article that needed to be written. I think a major factor in Heaslipโ€™s evolution to his current role has been the conversion of SOB from 6 to a 7 both with Leinster and Ireland. That has taken a bit of time and Heaslipโ€™s role has had to change to accommodate it and provide balance. POM for all his obvious talents is not renowned for his breakdown and ruck work so we are blessed to have someone like Heaslip with his phenomenal work rate and skills.

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    Nov 27th 2013, 7:58 PM

    Very much enjoy your recent analysis pieces Murray , keep it up.Great insights.
    Iโ€™d love for the Munster/Leinster shyte talk to stop though but hey ho , โ€ never a need to pack an arsehole โ€œ

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:08 PM

    If you like you can get me in a scrum and destroy me. Naked of course, all you have to do is askโ€ฆ..

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    Nov 26th 2013, 9:16 PM

    SOB a future irish captain Not 80 mins in BOD Impact sub maybe We need Best Give Luke Marshall more space Luke Fitzgerald is beyond it Cant wait to see a fit Tommy O Donnell back

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    Jan 25th 2014, 7:04 PM

    v.good analysis, 8 is a hard position when you are doing a lot of donkey work most of the time

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    Dec 1st 2013, 12:21 AM

    Christ is it any wonder the Irish team canโ€™t put a string of performances together when fans canโ€™t see outside their own provinces!! My take on this is heaslip is a savage player when he concentrates he is definitely guilty of going missing in gamesโ€ฆ

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